>From the Nordrhine-Westfalisches Personenstandsarchiv Westfalen-Lippe, I received following info: Juliane Catharine Zimmermann =m= Johann Friedrich Grune abt 1829. They both died in 1859. Their home was first in Bielefeld, nach Minden gezogen. (I think that means near Minden). Then they lived in Minden as Johann Grune was the Torkontrolleur in Minden. (Gate Keeper). Their dau Elizabeth Susan Grune =m= August Neumann, who was a Amtmann or Official, on Apr 17,1843. I am searching for anything on the parents, etc, of Julian catharine Zimmermann of Bielefeld. Isn't there one Zimmermann out in web-land who has lineage to Prussia (N Germany) and the Minden area? Site listed below shows the Zimmermann/Neumann line to USA. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ M F SMITH, 6 yr Army Vet, Ret, AL, APS "Remembering Those Who Served" http://community.webtv.net/CmbtEngrVet/JUSTAVETERAN and "http://community.webtv.net/Airacorba/VETERANSOPINION"