Chani, I thought I recognized several of your names from the entries you submitted to the Zimmerman & Zimmermann database for Wisconsin. While checking over the names I found something that might be helpful to you. Among the children you listed for Fredrich and Sophia Zimmermann is the name Valentine Zimmermann. I checked the database as I recalled a woman named Paula Floyd sending me information about a prayer card she found in the possessions of her grandmother, Barbara Plutz. Valentine is listed in the database and I linked his entry to the following information. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~zimzip/zim/more_info/valentine.htm Not sure if it will be of any help to you, but you might want to check it out. The information you supplied matches the date of death for Valentine on the prayer card. Karen Keehne Zimmerman Zimmerman & Zimmermann in Wisconsin http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~zimzip/zim/zim.htm We MAY be SWITCHING our provider. Here is my OTHER EMAIL ADDRESS: [email protected] *************************************************************************** "Family Ties" : http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~zimzip Including "Field Trip to Baltimore", "Field Trip to St. Louis" "KaylorDatabase in Maryland", and "Zimmerman/Zimmermann Database in Wisconsin" **************************************************************************