Donald, hello again, My Zimmermann (grandson of Christian) married Lutgendortmund, Westphalen in 1871 coming to PA and Ohio in about 1882-84. Christian Zimmermann d.1809 in Rohrbacher. His wife d. 1811 Koelpin. I do not know the earliest date the family was in Saarbruchen area. I think Siegen is not far from Dortmund. Jean W Donald M. Zimmerman wrote: > > Below, I notice the name Christian Zimmerman who married in 1768. On board > the ship "Patiece" that came to Philadelphia in 1749 was a Christian > Zimmerman. This could be the same man by the dates shown. There were 3 > Zimmermans on that ship. My GGGG Grandfather Johan Jost Zimmerman and > family, Christian Zimmerman, and Johan Peter Zimmerman. We don't know if the > Zimmermans on that ship were related. Can there be a connection among them? > Johan Jost was from Trupbach (near Siegen) Westphalia, Germany. > > It is known that Zimmermans from Siegen, Germany immigrated to the Germanna > Colonies in Virginia. > > Donald M. Zimmerman > Breckenridge, Michigan > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Zimmerman <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Monday, December 07, 1998 1:24 PM > Subject: Re: [ZIMMERMAN-L] WEBER/WEAVER, ZIMMERMAN, CARPENTER, MARTIN, RUTT, > more > > >My family was the Zimmermans from Culpepper (Germana) VA area. Believe > >yours in a different Zimmerman. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > >Date: Friday, December 04, 1998 9:42 PM > >Subject: [ZIMMERMAN-L] WEBER/WEAVER, ZIMMERMAN, CARPENTER, MARTIN, RUTT, > >more > > > > > >>I recently noticed some postings regarding the Rutt / Rupp surname. I was > >>wondering if anyone had additional information regarding the following > >>families, most of whom are from Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. > >> > >>Thanks for your help. > >>Melanie Jackson > >>[email protected] > >> > >>Descendants of Peter Rutt > >> > >>Generation No. 1 > >> > >>1. PETER RUTT was born 1665. Child of PETER RUTT is: > >> i. CHRISTIAN RUTT, b. 1703. > >> > >>Generation No. 2 > >> > >>2. CHRISTIAN RUTT (PETER1) was born 1703. He married ANN WEAVER. > >>Child of CHRISTIAN RUTT and ANN WEAVER is: > >> i. CHRISTIAN RUTT, b. 1727. > >> > >>Generation No. 3 > >> > >>3. CHRISTIAN RUTT (CHRISTIAN2, PETER1) was born 1727. He married ANNA > >WEBER > >>Abt. 1747, daughter of JACOB WEBER and ANNA BAUMANN. > >>Child of CHRISTIAN RUTT and ANNA WEBER is: > >> i. BARBARA W. RUTT, b. September 30, 1750; d. October 14, 1811. > >> > >>Generation No. 4 > >> > >>4. BARBARA W. RUTT (CHRISTIAN3, CHRISTIAN2, PETER1) was born September > 30, > >>1750, and died October 14, 1811. She married CHRISTIAN W. ZIMMERMAN Abt. > >>1768, son of HANS ZIMMERMAN and ANNA WEBER. > >>Children of BARBARA RUTT and CHRISTIAN ZIMMERMAN are: > >> i. JOHN R. ZIMMERMAN, b. May 22, 1780; d. April 11, 1853. > >> ii. ANNA R. ZIMMERMAN. > >> iii. PETER R. ZIMMERMAN. > >> iv. ELIZABETH R. ZIMMERMAN, b. November 21, 1778; d. March 23, 1840. > >> v. BARBARA R. ZIMMERMAN. > >> vi. JACOB R. ZIMMERMAN. > >> vii. CHRISTIAN R. ZIMMERMAN, b. May 16, 1782; d. August 11, 1847. > >> > >>Generation No. 5 > >> > >>5. JOHN R. ZIMMERMAN (BARBARA W.4 RUTT, CHRISTIAN3, CHRISTIAN2, PETER1) > >was > >>born May 22, 1780, and died April 11, 1853. He married (1) BARBARA SAUDER > >>Abt. 1806, daughter of HEINRICH SAUDER and BARBARA. He married (2) > BARBARA > >>AUCKER Aft. 1818. > >>Children of JOHN ZIMMERMAN and BARBARA SAUDER are: > >> i. HENRY S. CARPENTER, b. June 22, 1809; d. August 03, 1848. > >> ii. ELIZABETH ZIMMERMAN, b. Abt. 1807; d. 1809. > >> iii. MAGDALENA S. CARPENTER, b. February 03, 1817; d. March 02, 1904; m. > >>BENJAMIN H. BRECKBILL, Abt. 1837. > >> iv. ANNA S. CARPENTER, b. August 05, 1811; d. June 24, 1899. > >> > >>6. ELIZABETH R. ZIMMERMAN (BARBARA W.4 RUTT, CHRISTIAN3, CHRISTIAN2, > >PETER1) > >>was born November 21, 1778, and died March 23, 1840. She married JOSEPH > S. > >>WENGER, son of HANS WENGER and ANNA SHIRK. > >>Child of ELIZABETH ZIMMERMAN and JOSEPH WENGER is: > >> i. BARBARA Z.6 WENGER, b. December 14, 1804; d. December 21, 1882. > >> > >>7. CHRISTIAN R. ZIMMERMAN (BARBARA W.4 RUTT, CHRISTIAN3, CHRISTIAN2, > >PETER1) > >>was born May 16, 1782, and died August 11, 1847. He married ELIZABETH G. > >>WENGER Abt. 1805, daughter of HANS WENGER and ANNA SHIRK. > >>Children of CHRISTIAN ZIMMERMAN and ELIZABETH WENGER are: > >> i. PETER W. ZIMMERMAN, b. May 22, 1817; d. August 13, 1890. > >> ii. EMMANUEL W. ZIMMERMAN, b. June 04, 1811; d. December 28, 1890. > >> iii. BARBARA W. ZIMMERMAN, b. February 15, 1806; d. April 03, 1888. > >> iv. ANNA W. ZIMMERMAN, b. January 17, 1808; d. August 18, 1874. > >> v. JOHN W. ZIMMERMAN, b. May 13, 1810; d. August 10, 1890. > >> vi. CHRISTIAN W. ZIMMERMAN, b. September 27, 1810; d. January 16, 1827. > >> vii. SUSANNA W. ZIMMERMAN, b. November 25, 1814; d. May 03, 1882. > >> viii. SAMUEL W. ZIMMERMAN, b. June 19, 1818; d. August 23, 1819. > >> ix. ISAAC W. ZIMMERMAN, b. December 22, 1819; d. August 13, 1920. > >> x. ELIZABETH W. ZIMMERMAN, b. January 22, 1821; d. August 27, 1900. > >> xi. JACOB W. ZIMMERMAN, b. April 02, 1822; d. November 04, 1908; m. > >>CATHERINE M. ZIMMERMAN, Abt. 1846. Jacob was a minister. > >> xii. DAVID W. ZIMMERMAN, b. July 27, 1823; d. January 28, 1900. > >> xiii. MARTIN W. ZIMMERMAN. > >> > >>Generation No. 6 > >> > >>8. HENRY S. CARPENTER (JOHN R.5 ZIMMERMAN, BARBARA W.4 RUTT, CHRISTIAN3, > >>CHRISTIAN2, PETER1) was born June 22, 1809, and died August 03, 1848. He > >>married MARIA GABEL Abt. 1836. Henry's family may have settled in > >Germantown, > >>later moving to Paradise. A descendant of Henry's may have been mayor of > >>Lancaster, Pennsylvania. > >>Children of HENRY CARPENTER and MARIA GABEL are: > >> i. CHRISTIAN G. CARPENTER. > >> ii. ELIZABETH G. CARPENTER. > >> iii. JOHN G. CARPENTER. > >> > >>9. ANNA S. CARPENTER (JOHN R.5 ZIMMERMAN, BARBARA W.4 RUTT, CHRISTIAN3, > >>CHRISTIAN2, PETER1) was born August 05, 1811, and died June 24, 1899. She > >>married HENRY S. MARTIN Abt. 1831, son of ABRAHAM MARTIN and FRONICA > >SAUDER. > >>Henry may have been born on February 15, 1807. He was a Deacon. > >>Children of ANNA CARPENTER and HENRY MARTIN are: > >> i. ELIZABETH M. ZIMMERMAN, b. September 09, 1853; d. January 10, 1939; m. > >>JOSEPH EBERLY, Abt. 1871. Elizabeth might have been adopted. Elizabeth > >>and Joesph are buried in Martindale, Pennsylvania. > >> ii. SUSANNA E. MARTIN. > >> iii. LYDIA C. MARTIN. > >> iv. JONATHAN C. MARTIN. > >> v. ANNA C. MARTIN. > >> vi. FRONICA C. MARTIN. > >> vii. MARIA C. MARTIN. > >> viii. NATHANIAL C. MARTIN. > >> ix. ELIAS C. MARTIN. > >> x. BARBARA C. MARTIN. > >> xi. JOSIAH C. MARTIN. > >> xii. ELIZABETH C. MARTIN. > >> xiii. HETTIE C. MARTIN. > >> xiv. JOHN W. MARTIN. > >> xv. MAGDALENA C. MARTIN. > >> > >>10. BARBARA Z. WENGER (ELIZABETH R.5 ZIMMERMAN, BARBARA W.4 RUTT, > >CHRISTIAN3, > >>CHRISTIAN2, PETER1) was born December 14, 1804, and died December 21, > 1882. > >>She married JOHN WANNER DETWEILER, son of RUDOLPH DETWEILER and ANNA > >WANNER. > >>John moved to Canada with his parents in 1810. > >>Child of BARBARA WENGER and JOHN DETWEILER is: > >> i. CHRISTIAN WENGER7 DETWEILER, b. Abt. 1842; m. SUSAN RIES JANTZEN. > >> > >>11. PETER W. ZIMMERMAN (CHRISTIAN R.5, BARBARA W.4 RUTT, CHRISTIAN3, > >>CHRISTIAN2, PETER1) was born May 22, 1817, and died August 13, 1890. He > >>married (1) ANNA B. WEAVER Abt. 1839, daughter of FRANCIS WEAVER and MARY > >>BUCKWALTER. He married (2) EIZABETH LANDIS Aft. 1871. > >>Children of PETER ZIMMERMAN and ANNA WEAVER are: > >> i. FRANCIS W. ZIMMERMAN, b. October 10, 1840; d. September 26, 1864; m. > >>ANNA S. MARTIN, Abt. 1863. > >> ii. JOHANNES W. WEAVER, b. December 26, 1843; d. October 27, 1864. > >> iii. CHRISTIAN W. ZIMMERMAN, b. January 23, 1846; d. November 18, 1921; > m. > >>MARY W. MARTIN, Abt. 1868. > >> iv. HENRY W. ZIMMERMAN, b. September 12, 1848; d. November 18, 1917; m. > >>ANNA H. MARTIN, Abt. 1874. > >> v. ELIZABETH W. ZIMMERMAN, b. February 16, 1851; d. April 01, 1928; m. > >>DAVID B. HOOVER, Abt. 1866. > >> vi. MARY W. ZIMMERMAN, b. January 28, 1853; d. February 25, 1902; m. > >>TOBIAS W. MARTIN, Abt. 1870. > >> vii. DAVID W. ZIMMERMAN, b. December 26, 1854; d. March 10, 1915; m. > KATIE > >>W. HORST, Abt. 1885. > >> viii. ANNIE W. ZIMMERMAN, b. February 23, 1858; d. March 14, 1926; m. > >>SAMUEL H. MUSSELMAN, Abt. 1877. > >> ix. LYDIA W. ZIMMERMAN, b. April 20, 1863; d. April 15, 1933; m. MENNO N. > >>WENGER, Abt. 1880. > >> > >>12. EMMANUEL W. ZIMMERMAN (CHRISTIAN R.5, BARBARA W.4 RUTT, CHRISTIAN3, > >>CHRISTIAN2, PETER1) was born June 04, 1811, and died December 28, 1890. > He > >>married MARIA M. STAUFFER Abt. 1834, daughter of DAVID STAUFFER and > SUSANNA > >>MARTIN. > >>Children of EMMANUEL ZIMMERMAN and MARIA STAUFFER are: > >> i. ELIZABETH S. ZIMMERMAN, b. March 03, 1841; d. October 15, 1927; m. > >>JACOB M. (BLACK JAKE) HORST, Abt. 1882. Jacob is buried at the Weaverland > >>Mennonite Cemetery. > >> ii. DAVID S. ZIMMERMAN, b. June 09, 1836; d. June 14, 1896; m. BARBARA > >>MINK, Abt. 1863. > >> iii. JACOB S. ZIMMERMAN, b. December 24, 1837; d. August 10, 1903; m. (1) > >>MARIA B. HOOVER, Abt. 1866; m. (2) HETTIE MARTIN, Abt. 1887. > >> iv. ANNA S. ZIMMERMAN, b. September 24, 1839; d. April 01, 1911; m. > SAMUEL > >>RUTT, Abt. 1874. > >> v. MARY S. ZIMMERMAN, b. April 25, 1843; d. July 06, 1908; m. JOHN S. > >>GOOD, Abt. 1861. > >> vi. LYDIA S. ZIMMERMAN, b. November 11, 1844; d. August 08, 1930. > >> vii. SAMUEL S. ZIMMERMAN, b. August 28, 1848; d. December 14, 1912; m. > >>MAGDALENA S. MARTIN, Abt. 1871. > >> viii. DANIEL S. ZIMMERMAN, b. April 09, 1850; d. August 29, 1926; m. ANNA > >>G. ERB, Abt. 1870. > >> ix. MARTIN S. ZIMMERMAN, b. July 02, 1858; d. June 17, 1872. > >> > >>13. BARBARA W. ZIMMERMAN (CHRISTIAN R.5, BARBARA W.4 RUTT, CHRISTIAN3, > >>CHRISTIAN2, PETER1) was born February 15, 1806, and died April 03, 1888. > >She > >>married SAMUEL M. MARTIN Abt. 1828, son of DAVID MARTIN. > >>Children of BARBARA ZIMMERMAN and SAMUEL MARTIN are: > >> i. ELIZABETH Z.7 MARTIN. > >> ii. ANNA Z. MARTIN. > >> iii. DAVID Z. MARTIN. > >> iv. CHRISTIAN Z. MARTIN. > >> v. HENRY Z. MARTIN. > >> vi. JOHN Z. MARTIN. > >> vii. SUSANNA Z. MARTIN. > >> > >>14. ANNA W. ZIMMERMAN (CHRISTIAN R.5, BARBARA W.4 RUTT, CHRISTIAN3, > >>CHRISTIAN2, PETER1) was born January 17, 1808, and died August 18, 1874. > >She > >>married BENJAMIN GROFF Abt. 1835. > >>Children of ANNA ZIMMERMAN and BENJAMIN GROFF are: > >> i. JOSHUA Z. GROFF. > >> ii. LIZZIE Z. GROFF. > >> iii. FRANKLIN Z. GROFF. > >> iv. SUSANNA Z. GROFF. > >> v. ZACHARIAH Z. GROFF. > >> vi. ANNA Z. GROFF. > >> vii. CATHERINE Z. GROFF. > >> viii. BENJAMIN Z. GROFF. > >> ix. JOHN Z. GROFF. > >> > >>15. JOHN W. ZIMMERMAN (CHRISTIAN R.5, BARBARA W.4 RUTT, CHRISTIAN3, > >>CHRISTIAN2, PETER1) was born May 13, 1810, and died August 10, 1890. He > >>married (1) ESTHER M. WENGER Abt. 1835, daughter of DAVID WENGER and > >SUSANNA > >>MARTIN. He married (2) MARIA GABEL Abt. 1855. > >>Children of JOHN ZIMMERMAN and ESTHER WENGER are: > >> i. SUSANNA W. ZIMMERMAN, b. December 31, 1837; d. July 05, 1915; m. ISAAC > >>W. MARTIN, Abt. 1859. > >> ii. MARTIN W. ZIMMERMAN, b. July 02, 1839; d. December 23, 1898; m. ANNA > >>W. MARTIN, Abt. 1861. > >> iii. MARY W. ZIMMERMAN, b. November 23, 1841; d. November 20, 1915. > >> iv. ISREAL W. ZIMMERMAN, b. April 03, 1843; d. September 20, 1916; m. > >>LYDIA M. BAUMAN, Abt. 1864. > >> v. JOHN W. ZIMMERMAN, b. January 03, 1846; d. September 30, 1912; m. > >>MAGDALENA B. SENSENIG, Abt. 1867. > >> > >>Child of JOHN ZIMMERMAN and MARIA GABEL is: > >> vi. INFANT MALE ZIMMERMAN, b. July 23, 1856; d. July 23, 1856. > >> > >>16. ELIZABETH W. ZIMMERMAN (CHRISTIAN R.5, BARBARA W.4 RUTT, CHRISTIAN3, > >>CHRISTIAN2, PETER1) was born January 22, 1821, and died August 27, 1900. > >She > >>married SAMUEL ERNST Abt. 1847. > >>Children of ELIZABETH ZIMMERMAN and SAMUEL ERNST are: > >> i. ELEAZER ISREAL ERNST. > >> ii. ANNA ELIZABETH FRANCES ERNST, b. 1856; d. September 22, 1891; m. > ELIAS > >>FRANKLIN WANNER, Abt. 1878. > >> iii. GAMALIEL Z. ERNST. > >> iv. MENNO S. ERNST. > >> v. SUSAN Z. ERNST. > >> > >>17. DAVID W. ZIMMERMAN (CHRISTIAN R.5, BARBARA W.4 RUTT, CHRISTIAN3, > >>CHRISTIAN2, PETER1) was born July 27, 1823, and died January 28, 1900. He > >>married MARIA S. MARTIN Abt. 1851, daughter of GEORGE MARTIN and ANNA > >>SENSENIG. > >>Children of DAVID ZIMMERMAN and MARIA MARTIN are: > >> i. ANNA M. ZIMMERMAN, b. November 14, 1858; d. January 26, 1933; m. ELIAS > >>NOLT MARTIN, Abt. 1878. > >> ii. MENNO S. ZIMMERMAN. > >> iii. MARIA M. ZIMMERMAN. > >> > >> > >>==== ZIMMERMAN Mailing List ==== > >>Visit Daisy's Zimmerman Page! > >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~daisy/zimmerman.htm > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >==== ZIMMERMAN Mailing List ==== > >Visit Daisy's Zimmerman Page! > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~daisy/zimmerman.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ZIMMERMAN Mailing List ==== > Visit Daisy's Zimmerman Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~daisy/zimmerman.htm