This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Zimmerman, Zimmermann, Zieammermann, Zieammerman, Ochtenberg, Gebhard Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZJYBAEB/1214 Message Board Post: Hello! Does anyone connect with these names? We have no definite dates, spellings, or locations! Samuel Zimmermann (or Zimmerman) (or Zieammermann) (or Zieammerman) married to Hannah (or Johanna) Ochtenberg(or possibly alternate spelling) They had at least one child: a son John Julius (or possibly Julius John) who bought land in Lyon County Kansas approx. 1885. John J. married Augusta Wilhemina Gebhard (sp.?) and they had the following children: Julius John b. 20 Feb 1889 Pauline Hattie Lilly Paul (died as infant) Emma Karl Somewhere in the family line (thought to be John J. son of Samuel) extra letters were added to the name of Zimmermann to be Zieammermann, which is the name I grew up with. I am descended from Julius John Zieammermann, my grandfather. We don't know where to turn. It was once thought that John J. came from Prussia. The names for Samuel and Hannah came from my father's baby book. Please let us know if you can help. Thank you very much. Sincerely, Eileen Telfer