This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZJYBAEB/1266 Message Board Post: The following obit is reprinted from the Jan. 11, 2004 edition of the Wyoming Tribune-Eagle with permission of Cheyenne Newspapers, Inc. Copyright 2004. All rights reserved. Ralph Zimmerman 1916-2004 Ralph W. Zimmerman, 87, of Cheyenne, died Jan. 9 at Life Care Center after a lengthy illness. He was born March 25, 1916, to Earl and Louella Zimmerman of Cheyenne. He was raised on the family homestead along with a brother and two sisters. After he married Laura Palmer in December 1941, he developed a family farming and ranching partnership with his parents. Zimmerman and his wife raised cattle, wheat and two sons north of town. Zimmerman will be remembered as a good neighbor and a cowboy that took good care of his livestock, land and equipment. His hobbies included fishing with close friends, playing cards on cold winter nights and sharing many stories of community barn dances that he attended years earlier. Zimmerman spent many hours in his shop, designing and building equipment to aid his ranching operation. He later extended his welding and design talent to cowboy art, exhibiting and selling at local craft shows. Many families will long enjoy his unique work. He is survived by his wife, Laura of Cheyenne; two sons, Gerald of Thousand Oaks, Calif., and Carl of Grand Junction, Colo.; a borther, Claude "Mike" of Redding, Calif.; two sisters, Mrs. Harold Holmes of Cheyenne and Mrs. Ralph Faber of Montrose, Colo.; five grandchildren; three great-grandchildren; and numerous nieces, nephews and many close friends. Friends may contribute to Meals on Wheels or a charity of their choice in lieu of flowers. Note: I am of no relation, but my sympathies go out to those of you who are. This is here as a lasting memorial for Mr. Zimmerman.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Zimmerman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZJYBAEB/1265 Message Board Post: Hello: I am seeking information on Leonard Charles Zimmerman who married Ella M. Proctor in Larimer County, Colorado 1893. I believe Leonard was born in NY in 1865. They had two daughters, Leila Augusta and Mary and moved to California. If anyone has any information on this line, please drop me a line. Thanks very much! Tammy
Wonder if this could possibly be the same folks you are referring to? Gladys Clark, Arkansas Descendants of John Zimmerman, Lt. 1 John Zimmerman, Lt. 1748 - 1781 .. +Anna Elisabeth Failing 1752 - 1842 ......... 2 Henry I. Zimmerman 1771 - 1830 ............. +Anna Failing 1769 - 1834 .................... 3 Mary Zimmerman 1795 - 1861 ........................ +Benjamin Van Allen 1796 - 1884 .................... 3 John H. Zimmerman 1799 - 1877 ........................ +Nancy Klock 1804 - 1898 .................... 3 Jacob H. Zimmerman 1804 - 1888 ........................ +Margaret Dockstader 1812 - 1842 ............................... 4 John G. Zimmerman 1832 - Unknown ............................... 4 Edgar Zimmerman 1833 - Unknown ............................... 4 Milton Zimmerman 1835 - Unknown ............................... 4 Ann Zimmerman 1838 - Unknown ............................... 4 Corbin Zimmerman 1839 - Unknown .................... 3 Andrew Zimmerman 1807 - 1873 ........................ +Mary Charlesworth 1813 - 1902 .................... 3 Catharine Zimmerman 1810 - 1888 ........................ +Matthew Keller 1809 - Unknown
Carpenter & Zimmerman Researchers How often have you seen the words, "Not proven as a son", or the "Only proven son", or "Oral tradition says". We now have a genealogical tool that can HELP in determining if we are related or not. This tool is Y-Chromosome DNA testing. I would recommend FTDNA at www.familytreedna.com . In addition, if you are a Carpenter or Zimmerman descendant, you can go to www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=S82066 and receive a discount over the regular price. Here is an extraction from the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project, administered by John R. Carpenter, "DNA in the cell nucleus is organized into objects called chromosomes. Humans have 46, including two that determine easch person's sex: if these are X and X, the person is female; if X and Y, male. The Y chromosome is passed virtually unchanged from father to son through the generations and forms the basis for this test." "Since the Y chromosome is inherited virtually unchanged, why are there any differences at all? The answer is mutation. The current understanding is that each locus can be expected to mutate about once in 500 generations on average. I had my DNA tests completed in November 2002. My paper trail said that I was descended from Christian "CZ" Zimmerman/Carpenter. In November of 2003 a gentleman from North Carolina who is descended from Peter Zimmerman also had his DNA tests conducted. Then on 18 December 2003, I received an e-mail from the FTDNA organization that said, "YOU HAVE A MATCH!". I still haven't touched the ground yet! The results of this DNA testing proved that Christian "CZ" Zimmerman/Carpenter and Peter Zimmerman/Carpenter were brothers or at least first cousins. And, also that they are descended from Hans Zimmerman or from Hans' father. In all probability Christian and Peter were brothers. Now what does all this prove? 1) It proves that my Grandfather John T. Carpenter was the son of Joseph Carpenter, whose father was Frederick Carpenter, and he was a son of Christian "CZ" Carpenter. 2) The other person who took the DNA test was a descendant of Peter Zimmerman, and his matched mine almost exactly. There was a slight number change (mutation) for the DYS 439 value, which for me, it was 11 and this other person it was 12. Now if we had a descendant of the Jacob Zimmerman (Jacob Carpenter) and Johannes Zimmerman (John Carpenter) who are thought to be also descendants of Hans Zimmerman, b-1702, to also take the DNA test we could probably prove whether or not they are brothers and also if they are sons of this Hans Zimmerman. Since the Y-DNA is passed from father to son it would not tell us if they are half brothers or not, just that they had the same father. Without stating names, I was born in 1938, the other gentleman was born in 1951. With our DNA matches alone, (6th Cousins) we have a 99.9 percent chance of having a common ancestor. This is probably better that most vital records that are found via normal genealogical research today. Just looking at the dates we go from 1938 and 1951 back to 1720, 1736 and most likely to even 1702. If you have questions in regards to DNA testing, you can contact FTDNA at the above Internet address or feel free to contact John R. Carpenter, administrator and coordinator of the Carpenters Cousins Y-DNA Project at jrcrin001@cox.net , or Terry L. Carpenter at diluvius@yahoo.com , or myself Bobby L. Carpenter at bclompoc@attglobal.net if you are interested in my 25-Marker Y-DNA test results. My only interest is to further this form of Genealogical testing and also to see if Christian, Peter, Jacob, and Johannes were all brothers descended from Hans or where their common ancestor came into the picture. Thanks Bob Carpenter
Hello All, Looking for Johan/John Albert ZIMMERMAN b 1790 Bremen. Died after 1860 in Baltimore?. Lived with son Henry Z and wife Anna. Can you help? Jim Rettig Cincinnati
If Andrew's will mentions George and no one else - seems to me that is strong evidence, although it does not close the case. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rita Guzzo" <rita.guzzo@comcast.net> To: <ZIMMERMAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [ZIMMERMAN-L] searching... > Pete - Thanks for your help. And that's my problem. I am not sure of who > the parents of George are. I believe that they're Andrew Zimmerman and Ruth > Taylor. A short biography of that family is found in the History of Hardin > County, wherein it states that Andrew and Ruth Zimmerman came to Ross County > about 1800 and removed to Hardin County in 1830. In the 1850 U.S. Federal > Census of Ohio, Hardin County, Roundhead Township, I find George and wife > Sarah and Ruth Zimmerman aged 70. Andrew Zimmerman's will mentions George, > but no one else. According to the above mentioned History, Andrew and > Ruth's children were John, Andrew, Jefferson, Obadiah, Elijah D., George, > Elizabeth, Margaret, Delilah, Maria, Lavonia and Eliza Jane. I also believe > that there is another daughter named Emily E. from marriage records that I > received. I couldn't find any record of Andrew & Ruth Zimmerman in Ross > County. There were no land records in Ross County, or Hardin County, > either. > > If George IS the son of Andrew Zimmerman and Ruth Taylor, I already have the > lineage back to Andreas Zimmerman in Philadelphia County, now Montgomery > County, PA from 3 other Zimmerman researchers. But I'm just not sure. > > Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide. > > Rita Zimmerman Guzzo in NJ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pete Apple" <pete@intcomm.net> > To: <ZIMMERMAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 5:11 PM > Subject: Re: [ZIMMERMAN-L] searching... > > > > Rita - my Zimmerman Family is from Ross Co Ohio - though I do not > recognize > > your George - can you tell me any more details? Where in Ross County? > > Siblings? If we can make a connection, I may be able to help you take your > > line further. Pete Apple > > > ==== ZIMMERMAN Mailing List ==== > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >
Hello Clair, I have only a few Zimmerman's on my tree. They were from Carlstadt, New Jersey. John Zimmerman married Agnes Burke (my great aunt). They had 3 children: John "Jack", James and Donald. Jack married Helen (?) and they currently live in Montana. They had one child: Linda. James married Pearl (?). They are both deceased. They had twin boys James and Lawrence, which we have lost touch with. Donald became a priest and is also deceased. I have no other information on John Zimmerman. I don't see any connection to any of the names you listed. Good luck with your search and happy new year. Tim Clair Johnson <clair@pivot.net> wrote: Hello Tim Walsh, I am researching Albert Zimmerman (Zimmermann) b. 1858 in Baden, Germany who immigrated to U.S. and lived in Brooklyn, NY. He married Lena Prinzing and they had five children: William Alfred Clara Harry Edward (my father) Hope this will ring some bells for us. Thanks, Clair See Brady/Parker/Zimmerman Web Page: http://www.geocities.com/caj1937/index.html -------Original Message------- From: ZIMMERMAN-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 19:14:25 To: ZIMMERMAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZIMMERMAN-L] searching... hello listers - Researching Burke, Zimmerman, Donnellan, Jorgensen, Mannion/Manion, Walsh, Muhlbach. If these names appear on your tree, we may have a connection. Please contact me. thanks and Happy New Year to all! Tim Walsh Marietta, GA, USA (formerly of Clark, NJ, USA) --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 ==== ZIMMERMAN Mailing List ==== Were your Zimmerman's in Germanna? Be sure to visit the Culpeper County, VA USGenWeb Home page! http://www.rootsweb.com/~vaculpep/culp.htm . ==== ZIMMERMAN Mailing List ==== Search this list's archived messages! http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003
Pete - Thanks for your help. And that's my problem. I am not sure of who the parents of George are. I believe that they're Andrew Zimmerman and Ruth Taylor. A short biography of that family is found in the History of Hardin County, wherein it states that Andrew and Ruth Zimmerman came to Ross County about 1800 and removed to Hardin County in 1830. In the 1850 U.S. Federal Census of Ohio, Hardin County, Roundhead Township, I find George and wife Sarah and Ruth Zimmerman aged 70. Andrew Zimmerman's will mentions George, but no one else. According to the above mentioned History, Andrew and Ruth's children were John, Andrew, Jefferson, Obadiah, Elijah D., George, Elizabeth, Margaret, Delilah, Maria, Lavonia and Eliza Jane. I also believe that there is another daughter named Emily E. from marriage records that I received. I couldn't find any record of Andrew & Ruth Zimmerman in Ross County. There were no land records in Ross County, or Hardin County, either. If George IS the son of Andrew Zimmerman and Ruth Taylor, I already have the lineage back to Andreas Zimmerman in Philadelphia County, now Montgomery County, PA from 3 other Zimmerman researchers. But I'm just not sure. Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide. Rita Zimmerman Guzzo in NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Apple" <pete@intcomm.net> To: <ZIMMERMAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [ZIMMERMAN-L] searching... > Rita - my Zimmerman Family is from Ross Co Ohio - though I do not recognize > your George - can you tell me any more details? Where in Ross County? > Siblings? If we can make a connection, I may be able to help you take your > line further. Pete Apple
Rita - my Zimmerman Family is from Ross Co Ohio - though I do not recognize your George - can you tell me any more details? Where in Ross County? Siblings? If we can make a connection, I may be able to help you take your line further. Pete Apple ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rita Guzzo" <rita.guzzo@comcast.net> To: <ZIMMERMAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [ZIMMERMAN-L] searching... > Hi Tim, > > My Zimmermans are from OH>IA>KS. My earliest Zimmerman is George W. > ZIMMERMAN, b 1823 in Ross County, Ohio; d 1895 in Center Point, Linn County, > Iowa. He married first Sarah Jane SAXTON 14 Mar 1849 in Hardin County, > Ohio. She was born about 1829 and died before 1860 in Iowa. They had 3 > children, G.W. born about 1850 in Ohio, Isabel born about 1852 and Joseph > born about 1855 in Iowa. > > He married second Maria Jane CHURCH 23 Feb. 1862 in Center Point, Linn > County, Iowa. She was b. 1845 in Allen County, Ohio, d. 17 Apr 1916 in > Marengo, Iowa. My grandfather was the youngest of 11 children, born in > 1887. Their children are Clinton, Alice Cara or Clara, Henry, Frank, > Elizabeth, Florence, Arthur, Earl, Frederick and Walter, my grandfather. > > I have a lot of descendants, if anyone is interested. Also, my tree is at > World Connect on RootsWeb. Just search for George W. ZIMMERMAN. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=rita&recno=277 > > Rita Zimmerman Guzzo in NJ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Walsh" <twjw38@yahoo.com> > To: <ZIMMERMAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 7:06 PM > Subject: [ZIMMERMAN-L] searching... > > > > hello listers - > > Researching Burke, Zimmerman, Donnellan, Jorgensen, Mannion/Manion, Walsh, > Muhlbach. > > If these names appear on your tree, we may have a connection. Please > contact me. > > > ==== ZIMMERMAN Mailing List ==== > Visit Daisy's Zimmerman Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~daisy/zimmerman.htm >
Hi Tim, My Zimmermans are from OH>IA>KS. My earliest Zimmerman is George W. ZIMMERMAN, b 1823 in Ross County, Ohio; d 1895 in Center Point, Linn County, Iowa. He married first Sarah Jane SAXTON 14 Mar 1849 in Hardin County, Ohio. She was born about 1829 and died before 1860 in Iowa. They had 3 children, G.W. born about 1850 in Ohio, Isabel born about 1852 and Joseph born about 1855 in Iowa. He married second Maria Jane CHURCH 23 Feb. 1862 in Center Point, Linn County, Iowa. She was b. 1845 in Allen County, Ohio, d. 17 Apr 1916 in Marengo, Iowa. My grandfather was the youngest of 11 children, born in 1887. Their children are Clinton, Alice Cara or Clara, Henry, Frank, Elizabeth, Florence, Arthur, Earl, Frederick and Walter, my grandfather. I have a lot of descendants, if anyone is interested. Also, my tree is at World Connect on RootsWeb. Just search for George W. ZIMMERMAN. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=rita&recno=277 Rita Zimmerman Guzzo in NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Walsh" <twjw38@yahoo.com> To: <ZIMMERMAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 7:06 PM Subject: [ZIMMERMAN-L] searching... > hello listers - > Researching Burke, Zimmerman, Donnellan, Jorgensen, Mannion/Manion, Walsh, Muhlbach. > If these names appear on your tree, we may have a connection. Please contact me.
Please unsubscribe Ardy S ----- Original Message ----- From: mckane_d@bellsouth.net Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 1:21 AM To: ZIMMERMAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZIMMERMAN-L] searching... > I have the Zimmerman that changed there name to Carpenter if this is the case for you would like to compare notes. > From: Tim Walsh <twjw38@yahoo.com> > Date: 2003/12/30 Tue PM 07:06:17 EST > To: ZIMMERMAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ZIMMERMAN-L] searching... > > hello listers - > Researching Burke, Zimmerman, Donnellan, Jorgensen, Mannion/Manion, Walsh, Muhlbach. > If these names appear on your tree, we may have a connection. Please contact me. > > thanks and Happy New Year to all! > Tim Walsh > Marietta, GA, USA (formerly of Clark, NJ, USA) > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 > > > ==== ZIMMERMAN Mailing List ==== > Were your Zimmerman's in Germanna? > Be sure to visit the Culpeper County, VA USGenWeb Home page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vaculpep/culp.htm > > Nancy McKane Addicted to Genealogy ==== ZIMMERMAN Mailing List ==== List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Yvonne James-Henderson, list administrator with questions concerning this list! mailto:daisysroots@yahoo.com
> I have the Zimmerman that changed there name to Carpenter if this is the case for you would like to compare notes. > From: Tim Walsh <twjw38@yahoo.com> > Date: 2003/12/30 Tue PM 07:06:17 EST > To: ZIMMERMAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ZIMMERMAN-L] searching... > > hello listers - > Researching Burke, Zimmerman, Donnellan, Jorgensen, Mannion/Manion, Walsh, Muhlbach. > If these names appear on your tree, we may have a connection. Please contact me. > > thanks and Happy New Year to all! > Tim Walsh > Marietta, GA, USA (formerly of Clark, NJ, USA) > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 > > > ==== ZIMMERMAN Mailing List ==== > Were your Zimmerman's in Germanna? > Be sure to visit the Culpeper County, VA USGenWeb Home page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vaculpep/culp.htm > > Nancy McKane Addicted to Genealogy
Hello Tim Walsh, I am researching Albert Zimmerman (Zimmermann) b. 1858 in Baden, Germany who immigrated to U.S. and lived in Brooklyn, NY. He married Lena Prinzing and they had five children: William Alfred Clara Harry Edward (my father) Hope this will ring some bells for us. Thanks, Clair See Brady/Parker/Zimmerman Web Page: http://www.geocities.com/caj1937/index.html -------Original Message------- From: ZIMMERMAN-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 19:14:25 To: ZIMMERMAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZIMMERMAN-L] searching... hello listers - Researching Burke, Zimmerman, Donnellan, Jorgensen, Mannion/Manion, Walsh, Muhlbach. If these names appear on your tree, we may have a connection. Please contact me. thanks and Happy New Year to all! Tim Walsh Marietta, GA, USA (formerly of Clark, NJ, USA) --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 ==== ZIMMERMAN Mailing List ==== Were your Zimmerman's in Germanna? Be sure to visit the Culpeper County, VA USGenWeb Home page! http://www.rootsweb.com/~vaculpep/culp.htm .
hello listers - Researching Burke, Zimmerman, Donnellan, Jorgensen, Mannion/Manion, Walsh, Muhlbach. If these names appear on your tree, we may have a connection. Please contact me. thanks and Happy New Year to all! Tim Walsh Marietta, GA, USA (formerly of Clark, NJ, USA) --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZJYBAEB/1018.1.2.1.2.2.2 Message Board Post: Hello: am looking at your message. It seems you are the grandson of Marie Sonnenfroh. Marie I heard had many children. I know nothing of these people being in Brooklyn, however, as far as I know Marie lived all her life near Rochester NY. She was oldest daughter of my father's aunt Marie (actually Maria Sonnenfroh, born as Maria Stegmaier in Germany). I am a Stegmaier [daughter of Helmuth, who immigrated to his "Aunt Marie's" farm in Rochester]. Marie's daughter, Marie, was his first cousin therefore. I do remember that she married a Zimmerman. Didn't know his name was John, however. Her youngest sister Laura died in 2000, and she knew all the details of the family. Sorry, not too many Stegmaiers/Sonnenfrohs are left now to know the details.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZJYBAEB/1263.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thamks Leah. I thought it was worth a chance. Keep digging for your family. Ann
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZJYBAEB/1263.1.1 Message Board Post: Ann - Very sorry, but I have nothing more on the James T. Zimmerman of this family, and no information whatever on a Metha Scott.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Zimmerman, Scott Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZJYBAEB/1263.1 Message Board Post: Hi. See where you have a James Zimmerman listed. I am looking for a James Zimmerman who should have been born a little latter than yours. He married my cousin Metha Scott between 1910-1930. She lived in Vermillion, SD and then moved to Omaha after Mr. Scott died. In the 1930 census of Los Angeles, she is widowed and living with her son Ernest Hansen Scott. I do not know where they were married or when or where he died. Any of this in your line? Thanks, Ann in SD
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Zimmerman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZJYBAEB/1210.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Your Welcome
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZJYBAEB/1263 Message Board Post: I've seen the many messages relating to William H. and Frank Zimmerman. 'My' David Zimmerman is the brother of Wm. H. Zimmerman. The information I have is as follows: Henry ZIMMERMAN (abt 1798 - ) & Mary —— (abt 1800 - ) Children: Henry ZIMMERMAN (abt 1828 - ) & Sarah James T. ZIMMERMAN (abt 1834 - ) William H. ZIMMERMAN (abt 1836 - ) Abraham B. ZIMMERMAN (abt 1838 - ) David ZIMMERMAN (1 Jan 1842 - 2 Dec 1924) Joseph C. ZIMMERMAN* (abt 1843 - aft 1924) If this looks familiar to you, you may want to include the following about David. On 25 Nov 1877, David ZIMMERMAN married Catherine 'Katie' CARSON (21 May 1858 - 15 Jul 1932) in Seymour, Wayne Co., Iowa. They raised a boy they took in from one of the Orphan Trains traveling from NYC to Iowa in 1879: Frank McKIN (4 Jan 1875 - 24 May 1963), who was my grandfather. I have pictures and obituaries for David and Katie Zimmerman, and would be happy to share information. I also have a bit of information about brother Joseph C. Zimmerman, who also lived in Iowa. Many thanks to all of you who posted information about the earlier generations of this family!