I am looking for any info on a Wm ZIMMERMAN who married a Elizabeth Northcutt March 15 1840 in Franklin Co. Missouri. That is the only place I can actually put them in other than that they are like ghost. If anyone knows of them or anything please let me know.. Thanks Mindy

Looking for information on David R. L. Zimmerman who lived in Harrisburg about 1900. Who did he marry? What is the connection with the Fettermans? Len

martin Luther's wife was a nun before she was Mrs. M, I have read. I am not aware of congregations in Germanic peoples immigrating in groups to a large extent. If I can get it finished I will be posting soon a history of my families and it is somewhat unique in that in areas of South east Wisconsin, we saw in the early 1840's intense immigrations of Pommerns, in particular and Brandenbergers in An area of Washington/Ozaukee County near Milwaukee, and then a little further out, in Dodge County, near Lebanon township, then Theresa, and Mayville area, Town of herman etc. In some of these areas the populations were also 90ercent Pommern/Brandedbergers, that came with the opening of government land for land grants. In check a 1947 Plat of the town of Theresa and I would estimate the surnames of the original immigrants are still close to 80 percent of the 1840's. These communities, were differently and definitively based on the the church being not only the spiritual center but also the social center and to a high degree the church members trading etc. was a large part of the economic base of the area. In 1950's it was still common for as many as 15 congregations of Lutherans in Dodge County Wisconsin to conduct a weekly or a bi-weekly church service in German. As late as the late 1920'a German was the primary language in the parochial schools of the area. AN example was my mother born in 1921, did not learn to speak English until 6th grade when the state of Wisconsin mandated english as the primary language in all schools. My great Grandmother who was a Zimmermann descendant, never learned to speak English, passing on in 1953 and born in this country. These areas were and to some degree still are tight in their Various"Germanic hertiages, with not only religion, but tradition as well. If You can imagine in suburban Milwaukee their are several radio stations that broadcast exclusive old time music formats(Polka, waltz, etc. as the Germans, Slavs, Polish still flow that in the older generations.) Even the younger generations follow the music, just go to the Dodge County, Wisconsin fair and see the turn out for the Polka bands that play daily. In summary, the religious heritage and the influence on many of the folks of Germanic roots in Southeast Wisconsin (until the 1950's) was not unlike what you would see in the tight knit community that is manifested today in the Amish society. Very few marriages outside the faith, to do so was caused for family upheaval, German spoke as the primary language in many households, though they knew English. Today the German accents is still present in many in the land OF dis, dat and doughs. Awfwiedersein Rob Bowe Donna D Seidel wrote: > Thank you for the postings on > Catholic and Lutheran immigration > history. > And Martin Luther's wife- my how interesting. > Never occurred to me.... > Perhaps members of congregations > immigrated in chuch groups? > Please continue to add these reminders > of our pasts :-) > Sometimes I get too focused on one > individual. > Donna Seidel with Zimmerman on > both sides of the family > The Swiss Christian Zimmerman family > that came to Kansas in the 1880s from the > old country > The Other Zimmermans who wound up > in Dekalb County Indiana- I know nothing > about these folks yet > > ==== ZIMMERMAN Mailing List ==== > Visit Daisy's Zimmerman Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~daisy/zimmerman.htm

Thanks Dorothy, I found a Neuenhaus just south of Stuttgart. I will pursue that location. My grandfather's younger brother, John Zimmerman's obituary says he was born in Koblenz.. I haven't been able to verify this. They may have moved as George was but two years John's senior. Bob [email protected]

Thank you for the postings on Catholic and Lutheran immigration history. And Martin Luther's wife- my how interesting. Never occurred to me.... Perhaps members of congregations immigrated in chuch groups? Please continue to add these reminders of our pasts :-) Sometimes I get too focused on one individual. Donna Seidel with Zimmerman on both sides of the family The Swiss Christian Zimmerman family that came to Kansas in the 1880s from the old country The Other Zimmermans who wound up in Dekalb County Indiana- I know nothing about these folks yet

Bret...here is what I have on Peter.Born 18May1836.Married 5Jan1859 in Fayette Co.IN. Died 31Jan1919 Lyonsville,IN Fayette Co.Believed buried in Hanson Cemetary, Fayette Co. He married an Mary Elizabeth Lyons who was born 23May1838 at Lyons Station,Fayette Co.IN,died 1July1913. They had five(5) children.Elizebeth,Cora,Oliver,Mary M., and Andrew.What info do you have on Peter??....bob zimmerman

Bayern is the same as Bavaria. By the way, Neuhaus means NEW house, not Ninehouse. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, July 03, 1999 11:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ZIMMERMAN-L] Zimmerman I think Bayern is the same as Bavaria. Do you know what city/village Lena was from? My grandfather, George Zimmerman, was born in a town called Neuhaus (Ninehouse) Bavaria. I haven't been able to locate this town. He immigrated to the US in 1869 and settled near Albany, MN in Stearns County. [email protected] ______________________________

Hi. I just read your e-mail, and Bayern is indeed the German word for Bavaria. However, if you are looking for a town which translates "nine house" it would be Neunhaus. (Neuhaus translates "new house". Try that spelling when you are looking. Dorothy

HI Folks It has been a while since I posted last. Looking for information on the Zimmermann's of Kankakee County, IL Know that Christoph Zimmermann came to USA in 1868, have not been able to find the exact date, date came from 1900 census. He is not listed GTA. Christoph's father Friedrich Zimmermann, mother Albertine Zimmerman along with brothers Wilhelm Zimmermann, August Zimmermann and sisters Freiderikeand Auguste Zimmermann arrive in the USA on April 30,1874. They all settled in Sumner Township Kankakee County, Illinios. Dick Zimmerman [email protected] Researching Zimmerman(n)'s of Kankakee County, IL and Todd County,MN

Rob; Your letter was interesting. I can add another branch of the Lutherans which is from Germany but really of Slavic origin - the Wends or Sorbs. They seem to have gone to South Texas. Martin Luther's wife Katherin von Bora may have been Wendish. They had their own language. I got the info out of the latest magazine from the Lutheran Brotherhood. Phil Johnson

When researching anything that is "German," it is improtant to try and ascertain the relegion, most were Putheran or Catholic and as groups these folks settled soemtimes in the the New World in simliar communities. Familes usally came togehter, though not always the case. Many German Catholics and Lutheran came because of religious persecution, but at different times. About 6,000 Ault Lutheraners, left in the 1840's because of conflicts with the state church, most of these were from Pommern, Silesia, Brandenburg. Catholics often were from other areas and many came later as they may or may not have been German/Prussian, they may have lived close to border areas or in one of the many countrys that came and went. Asutria, Hungary, Bavaria, Rhine Land, some of what is towday Poland. All of these were often German speaking peoples. Religion helps narrow down areas that they left and where they settled. Find others in the area, find the chruch wehere they first went to when they went to America. People from this part of the world often times had their social lives centered around thier chruch. lastly with Zimmerman/Zimermann, remeber the NN and N cahngedged sometimes in the same document when immigrating or in the same family, an N was dropped or added. Sorry if you thought I was preaching, but that approach has worked well from me. Rob Bowe Zimmermann descended from Micheal Freidrich Gottlieb Zimmerman, son Of Johann Zimmermann, (Koertenthin, Isle OF Wollin, Pommern, Prussia (North Germany East OF Hamburg.) Immigrated to Dodge County, Wisconsin. Clair Johnson wrote: > Yes. Bayern is the same as Bavaria. Neuhaus means (new house). But it > has been a long for my german. > > No, I do not know what town my grandmother was born in. > She and Albert came over separately as they did not know one another > then. They met in Brooklyn. > > Two problems for me. One is that I do not know when either of them > came or with whom. > > Two is that I don't know anyone from their pasts. > > My father Edward Frederick Zimmerman did not talk about his past. His > sister Clara said that her mother and father did not talk about their > past. So we have very little information to go on. > > So, Albert and George could have come over together or George and Lena > could have come over together. Believe they would have had to travel > to Breman or another port to come over. > > Need a lot of help. > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > ==== ZIMMERMAN Mailing List ==== > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

It could be that Neuhaus is not in Bavaria, there are several similar names in the north, in Pommern in the old Prussian emprire that preceeded Germany, Nauhaus or Nauhausen, for one. Rob Bowe [email protected] wrote: > I think Bayern is the same as Bavaria. Do you know what city/village Lena > was from? My grandfather, George Zimmerman, was born in a town called > Neuhaus (Ninehouse) Bavaria. I haven't been able to locate this town. He > immigrated to the US in 1869 and settled near Albany, MN in Stearns County. > [email protected] > > ==== ZIMMERMAN Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Yvonne James-Henderson, > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > mailto:[email protected]

Hi Bob, I too am looking for information on that Peter Zimmerman!! I am trying to connect him to the Frank Z. that is buried there in Lyonsville. Please let me know what you might know about Peter or maybe even any of the other Zimmerman from Lyonsville. Bret [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Bob zimmerman <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, July 04, 1999 9:41 AM Subject: [ZIMMERMAN-L] Peter Zimmerman >I am looking for information on Peter Zimmerman born 18May1836,in >Pennsylvania.Moved to Lyonsville,Indiana,Fayette Countysome time there >after. thanks..bob zimmerman > > >==== ZIMMERMAN Mailing List ==== >Visit Daisy's Zimmerman Page! >http://www.rootsweb.com/~daisy/zimmerman.htm > > > > > >

Yes. Bayern is the same as Bavaria. Neuhaus means (new house). But it has been a long for my german. No, I do not know what town my grandmother was born in. She and Albert came over separately as they did not know one another then. They met in Brooklyn. Two problems for me. One is that I do not know when either of them came or with whom. Two is that I don't know anyone from their pasts. My father Edward Frederick Zimmerman did not talk about his past. His sister Clara said that her mother and father did not talk about their past. So we have very little information to go on. So, Albert and George could have come over together or George and Lena could have come over together. Believe they would have had to travel to Breman or another port to come over. Need a lot of help. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

I am looking for information on Peter Zimmerman born 18May1836,in Pennsylvania.Moved to Lyonsville,Indiana,Fayette Countysome time there after. thanks..bob zimmerman

I think Bayern is the same as Bavaria. Do you know what city/village Lena was from? My grandfather, George Zimmerman, was born in a town called Neuhaus (Ninehouse) Bavaria. I haven't been able to locate this town. He immigrated to the US in 1869 and settled near Albany, MN in Stearns County. [email protected]

I checked for Bertha on the Zimmerman/Zimmermann in Wisconsin database, as the name was familiar. There are three listed, unfortunately they do not match, or even come close to the birthdate you mentioned. Sorry. When Rob Bowe posted last week regarding new information for Michael Zimmermann in Dodge Co., Wisconsin, it was a good reminder that I should repost the URL for the Zimmerman/Zimmermann in Wisconsin web site. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~zimzip/zim/zim.htm In addition to the database (alphabetical by first name), check out some of the following topics: - WVM Civil War database - Land Patent Recordings - Some Pioneer Families - Partial 1910 Marathon County Federal Census Index - Z/Z birth records for Sheboygan Co. While you are there consider submitting to the database, the names you are researching. And please let other researchers know about it. Also - for people with interest in Sheboygan Co. birth, marriage and death records, please be aware that Debie Blindauer has been coordinating a mass effort to bring Sheboygan vital records online. This applies to all records, not just Zimmerman/n. This is a mammoth undertaking and costly - there are hundreds of pages of index for these records and the project is dependent on contributions, For more information, and to learn how you can help the project, visit the Sheboygan Co. GenWeb page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wisheboy/index.htm Karen Keehne Zimmerman La Crescenta, CA *************************************************************************** "Family Ties" : http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~zimzip Including "Field Trip to Baltimore", "Field Trip to St. Louis" "KaylorDatabase in Maryland", and "Zimmerman/Zimmermann Database in Wisconsin" ************************************************************************** We MAY be SWITCHING our provider. Here is my OTHER EMAIL ADDRESS: [email protected]

I am attempting to get a lead on a Berta (or Bertha) Zimmerman (or Zimmermann) who was born on October 19, 1919, and emigrated to this country on January 19, 1952. (She flew here from Munich, Germany.) I do not know in what city or state she settled, or whether she ever married (in which case her name would no longer be Zimmerman). I would appreciate information from anyone who may have leads. Thank you.

To everyone on mailing list: Looking for: Albert Zimmerman, b. 07 Mar. 1858 in Baden, Germany Lena Prinzing b. 09 Jan. 1870 in Bayern, Germany They married in Brooklyn, NY and had 5 children and both died in Brooklyn in the 1940's End _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

I appreciate all the input on the name Severin ZIMMERMAN. NOW then, SEVERIN SEIDEL in Hartford, Wisconsin. My brick wall is a XAVERIUS SEIDEL, NYC, 1860s. When does your SEVERIN SEIDEL show up in Wisconsin? Just in case, you all know how it goes :-) Maybe SEVERIN and XAVERIUS are Gernam/ Swedish equivalents Donna Seidel, ZIMMERMAN also ZIMMERMANs that seem to have moved from Missouri (flood) to DeKalb County, Ind. Turn of the century