In a message dated 98-01-16 11:55:27 EST, ginh@email.msn.com writes: << ginh@email.msn.com (Gin Hathaway) >> I owe the you and the list an apology. I inadvertently left out "what I know" about this family. I recently came into possession of a :"handdrawn" family tree, supposedly completed in the 70's by an Urban Mattias Ziegler from Wisconsin somewhere. There is no geographical information on this tree. He was supposedly written up in the ? newspaper about this 13 year project and the depth of the information he had. It is my family, as my own father is even listed. I am told by my grandmother, Elsie Cecelia (Schille) Ziegler, now 91 years old, that she believes Urban is deceased. What I do "know" is that this family came from Halsheim, Bavaria about 1850 and settled in Wisconsin. From there, my "twig" moved to Montana and utlimately to Washington state. I guess what I would really like is to locate Urban Mattias Ziegler's family and find out what happened to all his research. Anyway, that is basically all the information I have. If anything sounds vaguely familiar, I would surely appreciate a tip from someone. Thanks and happy hunting. Gail J. (Ziegler) Wilson