Hi, First I qould like to apologize for sending a subscribe message to the wrong e-mail address (I noticed as soon as it was sent, of course). Now for my question. I have Zeiglers in Ohio that I believe are of Swiss descent. Samuel Zeigler (b c 1760-1770), his wife and 4 oldest children (Samuel, b c 1790-1800, Nicholas, b 1798-1800, Benjamin, b 19 Jan 1802 and Jacob, b c 1802) came to this country when Benjamin was about 3. These may be the same Zieglers that came over on board the Liberty in October 1805: PASSENGERS OVER CHILDREN UNDER THEIR NATIVE UNDER WHICH 14 YEARS OF AGE 14 YEARS PLACES GOVERNMENT Mr. Ziegler 4 Unterranseen Swiss Mrs. Ziegler Unterranseen Swiss Now, I need to try to find them on the other side of the Atlantic. This proves a problem as I can't figure out where Unterranseen is. Any ideas? One thought was that Unterranseen might be Unteramsern, Solothurn, Switz however the second oldest son managed to live until at least the 1880 census, and he lists his parents as being born in Bern. This is my first foray into looking people up abroad. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks, -- - Mike mdwhite@ucdavis.edu