Have we found them all? Helene ---------- > From: PJ <pjben@ix.netcom.com> > To: ZIEGLER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Test > Date: Monday, September 29, 1997 8:35 AM > > Earl, > > I was wondering that myself...:) It appears to be, just no one is > posting anything. > > Researching: Armbruster Bodden Kettner Mueller Seeger Tatsch Weyh > Ziegler > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/1214/ > > Take Care! > Pam

Earl, I was wondering that myself...:) It appears to be, just no one is posting anything. Researching: Armbruster Bodden Kettner Mueller Seeger Tatsch Weyh Ziegler http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/1214/ Take Care! Pam

Nothing from this list in so long...just checking to see if still active.

Hello Everyone, I just started researching the ziegler's. What is known from my Aunt that she can remember is that Ernest Ziegler My grandfather was born in Barth,Germany and he was a merchant marine and jumped ship when docked in New York. Heinrich Ziegler m. Agnes Mueller b.1860-1880? and they had the following children. Ernest Ziegler b.1902 in barth,Germany d.1948 New York,USA m.Franziska Armbruster on 9/05/1925 Manhatten,New York,USA. Agnes Ziegler Herbert Ziegler Anneliese Ziegler My aunt feels there might have been more of them and she thinks a son died at a early age. Let me know if there is any connection. Children of Ernest Ziegler & Franziska Armbruster Annelisa b . 1926 Otto Ziegler b.1927 Erica b. 1941 Ernest b. 1945 Anyone else researching this line? Pam http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/1214/

In my e-mail of 29 Aug 1997, Oktoberfest Computer and Zeigler Workshop, I expressed the need to locate the (older) David Zeigler's (C1675/1685 - C1753 / 1785) Bible records and the Gottlieb Stabler (20JAN1732 - 12Jul1757) / Anna Barbara Zeigler Stabler's (27MAR1733 - ???) Bible records. I need help. Carolyn, do you or Francis have any suggestions as to where these records might be located? I said that I had seen where they might be in Mississippi. Now, I see in Gladys Dieckmann's 1984 Ancestor Chart that her John Jacob Zeigler died in Claiborne, AL, in 1844. He was one of Gottleib and Anna Barbara's twelve children who were born from 1758 to 1779. Surely, one out of the twelve kept the family Bible or was the family historian. Do you have any ideas on this? I will check out Calhoun Co. Any help from you or the others receiving this will be greatly appreciated. Oburg Bob H. ______ ********************************************************** Subject: Okotoberfest Computer and Zeigler Workshops Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 22:22:04 -0400 From: Robert D Hemphill <rdhemphill@oburg.net> To: Orangeburghlist GENEALOGY <ORANGEBURGH_SC-L@rootsweb.com> I am delighted to hear that Gene will have the computer workshop at Oktoberfest. I hope this is true. The Orangeburg Computer Club last Tuesday meeting was on the use of Family Tree Maker. Ben Edge, the president, gave a very enlightening demonstration. I announced our workshop and was asked if they could come. I told them yes and that the details would be out in the paper later. Right? Carolyn Luker, Will Miller, Bob Hemphill, Gene Jefferries and others have made comments about errors in the Zeigler/Ziegler/Seigler/Segler page on the Society's Web Page. Gene has told us to send in corrections. This we have not done. I understand that they are planning a Zeigler work table at Oktoberfest. I hope this is so. What we need on this table are the TWO TUTOR DOCUMENTS. The older David Zeigler is said to have arrived on the ship Elizabeth in Charleston Feb 1753 with children and grandchildren and a tutor who was a female who kept family records in their Bible. We need to locate these records. There are problems with this information. David's youngest daughter, Anna Barbara Zeigler, was born in 1733 making her twenty arriving in Charleston in 1753. She married Gottlieb Stabler in SC in 1757. She did not need a tutor. The tutor must have been for the grandchildren. He had five grandchildren by his son Fritz. The youngest grandchild was age 13. We need to get a copy of these records. I have seen many family histories refer to these Bible records but none are as you would expect from Bible records, i.e. dates, names clear, locations, etc. I may be the only one that doesn't know where this Bible is. It is not in the Lutheran Seminary. Could it be in Calhoun Co, SC? If anyone can help locate it, please let me hear from you. The second tutor was a man named Francois Dufour, native of Leipzig. He also kept the family records. He was the teacher of the children of Gottlieb Stabler and Anna Barbara Zeigler Stabler. So, he was teaching David's grandchildren. He can't be the same tutor as the first was said to be a female. There are problems with these records also. David is called Donald David Zeigler. The Germans here in town say that Donald is not a German name. It is English. The tutor gave David's birthplace as Siestadt in Haystemm, Duchy (State) of Wurtemberg. This is the only source of this information that I know of. It appears to be correct. The original of this document is said to be still in existence, I believe in Miss. We need to get it out on the table and see what it says. It surprised me to read that a 1750's German immigrant family brought their tutor with them to SC. Also, the author of a history of the Lutheran Church in SC was surprised to find a church in the 1700's full of German Lutherans who could sign their names. This does not surprise me after reading Laura Maxwell's 1905 book, <IN SUABIA-LAND (WURTEMBERG)> (library exchange loan). Evidently the SUABIANS had an intense desire or drive to obtain an education, self taught or otherwise. Many could read, write, speak and give and understand presentations in two or three languages. Michael was Fritz's son and grandson of David. I am going to withdraw my speculation that Michael was bound out in 1753 for four years as an apprentice to someone who would teach him English. Who knows? This tutor may have already taught Michael two or three languages. That would make him very much in demand with the Charleston importers and exporters. The inscriptions on a tombstone in the cemetery next to the Orangeburg Co. Court House are as follows: FATHER / Gottlob August Neuffer (Doctor) Born Basenheim, Wurtemberg, Germany, Feb. 12 1817 Died Orangeburg, S.C., April 5, 1882 MOTHER / Maria Lousia Happoldt, Wife of G. A. Neuffer Born Charleston, S. C., July 9, 1825 Died Abbeville, S. C., Sept. 11, 1897 This is the only one that I have seen around Orangeburg that includes the city or village birthplace in Germany. Let me hear from you if you know of others. Also, please let me know the names of all immigrants that came to the Orangeburg area from Wurtemburg. I want to put a list of them in a copy of the Wurtemberg book and donate the copy to the Orangeburg Co. Library. The local Germans will probably enjoy reading about their native land. Right? Please let me hear from you. Best regards, Oburg Bob H. _____

Hello, New subscriber here. I am searching for info on the following person: Emma Alice Ziegler (or Zeigler) born in Maryland abt 1863, married William Zittle abt 1883 in Sharpsburg, MD. Moved to Sangamon County, IL. Remarried Joseph Sexton 5/18/1915 in Springfield, IL. Died June 17, 1928, age 65, in Marne, IA and buried in Springfield, IL. If this person is in anybody's line please let me know. Thanks. Richard Sergeant Seattle, WA

I am searching for Sebastian Zahnweh b: abt 1873 Germany marr: Mary Ziegler. "Possibly" married in Ark. Thank you..

I ignored it, having seen similar hoaxes before. Gene "I invite all members of the Church to live with ever more attention to the life and example of the Lord Jesus Christ." Howard W. Hunter, October 1994 "People pay for what they do, and still more, for what they have allowed themselves to become. And they pay for it simply: by the lives they lead." James Baldwin ---------- > From: Whitney <bwhitney@mail.usmo.com> > To: jordan-l <jordan-l@rootsweb.com>; kyroots <kyroots@lsv.uky.edu>; moore-l <moore-l@rootsweb.com>; THOMAS-L@rootsweb.com; Ziegler <ZIEGLER-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Virus Hoax > Date: Friday, August 29, 1997 9:57 AM > > I wish to apologize for the forwarded message. Thank you to those who > were informative or supportive. Again I am sorry. > > Beverly Whitney

I wish to apologize for the forwarded message. Thank you to those who were informative or supportive. Again I am sorry. Beverly Whitney

Looking for information on the following Michael Ziegler. He came from Germany to Cincinnati and was a member of the St. Boniface Catholic Church. His wife Mary, was also from Germany and was a head of the household according to the 1870 Census, OH, Hamilton County, Ward 19, Page 503; Mary, age 48, was a housekeeper. Both her parents were of foreign birth. She lived with her children, daugther, Catherine, age 14, seamstress and son, John, age 16, printer ??. She had another daughter, Mary Elizabeth who was already married by 1870. Can anyone provide additional info on my Michael Ziegler and family? Thanks Traci <A HREF="mailto:tlspears1@aol.com">tlspears1@aol.com</A> <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/TLSpears1/index.htm">Traci Spears' Home Page< /A> <A HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/p/e/Teresa-L-Spears/index.htm l">Family Tree Maker's Genealogy Site: User Home Pages: Home Page of Traci Spe ars</A> Descendants of Micheal ZIEGLER 1 Micheal ZIEGLER b: Unknown Germany d: Unknown . +Mary ?? b: Abt. 1822 Bavaria, Germany d: Unknown ........ 2 [1] Mary Elizabeth ZIEGLER b: December 5, 1853 Cincinnati, Hamilton County, OH d: December 10, 1944 Cincinnati, Hamilton County, OH ............ +Charles Breuer b: Abt. 1848 Germany d: August 1888 Cincinnati, Hamilton County, OH ................... 3 ? Breuer b: Bef. 1875 d: March 25, 1868 Cincinnati, Hamilton County, OH ................... 3 August L. Breuer b: December 1875 Cincinnati, Hamilton County, OH d: September 1905 Cincinnati, Hamilton County, OH ................... 3 Katherine H. Breuer b: May 1878 Cincinnati, Hamilton County, OH d: May 1904 Cincinnati, Hamilton County, OH ................... 3 Emma Breuer b: Abt. September 1881 d: September 1, 1882 Cincinnati, Hamilton County, OH ................... 3 Ella Breuer b: September 1881 OH ....................... +? Albrecht ................... 3 L. Maria Breuer b: January 17, 1882 d: February 4, 1882 Cincinnati, Hamilton County, OH ................... 3 Barbara S. Breuer b: April 1884 Cincinnati, Hamilton County, OH d: May 1903 Cincinnati, Hamilton County, OH ................... 3 Annie Breuer b: March 1886 OH d: Unknown ....................... +Samuel Barron b: Unknown d: Unknown ........ *2nd Husband of [1] Mary Elizabeth ZIEGLER: ............ +Henry MUELLER b: Unknown Germany m: Abt. 1892 d: Abt. 1895 ................... 3 Mary "Marie" Elizabeth (Breuer) MUELLER b: July 26, 1893 Cincinnati, Hamilton County, OH d: December 10, 1973 Cincinnati, Hamilton County, OH ....................... +John Edward BECKMAN b: September 17, 1894 St. Bernard, Hamilton County, OH m: February 11, 1913 Cincinnati, Hamilton County, OH d: May 3, 1971 Cincinnati, Hamilton County, OH ........ 2 John Ziegler b: Abt. 1854 OH ........ 2 Catherine Ziegler b: Abt. 1856 OH

Josh; I have a John L. (Landis???) bn 1813 PA. ( I think he was from Greene or Fayette Co) md Suzan HAMPTON bn 1814 VA( proaby Wayne\Cabell Co) WV. Hiram C. bn 1839 Greenup KY md Emily GILKERSON bn 1840 Wayne Co WV d/o John and Delilah DROWN Gilkerson. Other Zigler's, William A. bn 1842 KY; Elizabeth M. 1843; John H. 1845 VA; Helen M 1848 VA; Joseph P. bn 1849. John Ziegler was a wealthy man. His son and d-i-l ran a Hotel in Ashland in 1870/80. It is believed they died there and are buried in the Asland Cemetery. John had a brother Joshua who lived in CAbell Co WV. Hiram was a Col in the KY Union Army from Greenup/Boyd Co KY. I believe they came from a military family to eastern KY ca 1830. Just cant place my hands on some interesting material of the Zigler family. Dallas Johnson Big Sandy Area/Ohio River WV-JOHNSON, IRONS, GILKERSON, FULLER, HAZLETT, CURNUTTE, DAVIS, HENSLEY KY-JOHNSON, FRANCIS, HENSLEY, GILKERSON OH-JOHNSON, IRONS On Tue, 05 Aug 1997 13:27:19 -0500 Josh <jdelaney@capecod.net> writes: >I am looking for information on this line of Zieglers: >John Ziegler b.1744 d.1777 Rev. War Vet m. Hannah Landis; Christopher >Ziegler b.1714 PA d.1804 Pennsburg, Pa m. Deborah Pawling; Michael >Ziegler b. c1684 Ger, Switz? em.1709 d.1765 Skippack, PA m. Catherine. > > Can anyone help or point me in the right direction? Thank you. > > >Sincerely, > >Josh Delaney > >

Might try the PA-Dutch board. That is where I found my Ziegler info. Helene ---------- > From: Robert D Hemphill <rdhemphill@OBURG.NET> > To: ZIEGLER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: ZIEGLER/ZEIGLER PASSENGER LIST & WURTTEMBERG > Date: Thursday, August 07, 1997 9:08 AM > > Is there a ZIEGLER/ZEIGLER passenger list available from an individual > or group? We have traced ours back to FRITZ ZEIGLER and reached an > impasse. He, his family and other close relatives came over to SC > between 1730's and 1760's in a number of ships through different ports. > They all came from a little village, SEISTADT, SHONSTETTEN, or STEINHEIM > > in the district of HEIDENHEIM in the GERMAN state of WURTTEMBERG. They > were probably farmers but possibly iron miners or smelters. To me, they > > seemed to have a dedication to education which is a requirement of > people that wish to govern themselves. > > About a year ago the president of the HEMPHILL HISTORICAL SOCIETY and I > went to Philadelphia searching for HEMPHILL passenger list. In so doing > > I notice a number of ZIEGLERS from WURTTEMBERG with the same series of > given names as ours. There must be connections. > > I have been enlightened by a couple of books on the history of this area > > of Germany. This is where I got the idea that they were a people > dedicated to self education and improved communication. Some speaking > two or three languages. The history of the LUTHERAN CHURCH in SC states > > it was surprising how few of the GERMAN LUTHERAN immigrants were > illiterate. > > I am interested in the ZIEGLER/ZEIGLER passenger list and any history of > > the WURTTEMBER area in 1680/1760. I would like to exchange information > on this. If you have anything on these and will share, please let me > hear from you. > > Bob H. >

Is there a ZIEGLER/ZEIGLER passenger list available from an individual or group? We have traced ours back to FRITZ ZEIGLER and reached an impasse. He, his family and other close relatives came over to SC between 1730's and 1760's in a number of ships through different ports. They all came from a little village, SEISTADT, SHONSTETTEN, or STEINHEIM in the district of HEIDENHEIM in the GERMAN state of WURTTEMBERG. They were probably farmers but possibly iron miners or smelters. To me, they seemed to have a dedication to education which is a requirement of people that wish to govern themselves. About a year ago the president of the HEMPHILL HISTORICAL SOCIETY and I went to Philadelphia searching for HEMPHILL passenger list. In so doing I notice a number of ZIEGLERS from WURTTEMBERG with the same series of given names as ours. There must be connections. I have been enlightened by a couple of books on the history of this area of Germany. This is where I got the idea that they were a people dedicated to self education and improved communication. Some speaking two or three languages. The history of the LUTHERAN CHURCH in SC states it was surprising how few of the GERMAN LUTHERAN immigrants were illiterate. I am interested in the ZIEGLER/ZEIGLER passenger list and any history of the WURTTEMBER area in 1680/1760. I would like to exchange information on this. If you have anything on these and will share, please let me hear from you. Bob H.

I am looking for information on this line of Zieglers: John Ziegler b.1744 d.1777 Rev. War Vet m. Hannah Landis; Christopher Ziegler b.1714 PA d.1804 Pennsburg, Pa m. Deborah Pawling; Michael Ziegler b. c1684 Ger, Switz? em.1709 d.1765 Skippack, PA m. Catherine. Can anyone help or point me in the right direction? Thank you. Sincerely, Josh Delaney

I am looking for information on John Ziegler b. in Pennsylvania. Parents were of German-Dutch descent. Made journey to America with William Penn. Child of John is Jeremiah b. Perry County, Ohio d. aft 1865 m Overdear and Elizaabeth Cullum, daughter of John Cullum. There children were Mary, Augustus Manning b. Nov. 8, 1851 in Fultonham, Ohio d. Jan 28, 1930 in Mingo, Ohio m. Mary Arabella Rhettburg, Henry b. Dec 17, 1853, Harriet b. 1865 d. Dec 6, 1891. Thank you for any help, Beverly Whitney

Most or many of the GERMANS who came to SC in th 1700's came from WURTTEMBERG or SUABIA in the GERMAN ALPS. My interest is in the ZIEGLER or ZEIGLER family and the HEIDENHEIM DISTRICT of GERMANY. I note from passenger list that many of the ZIEGLERS in PA came from the GERMAN ALPS and not the PALENTINE. What can other researchers tell about the area where their SUABIAN ZIEGLERS came from? ORANGEBURGH Bob H. ___25JULY1997

I am looking for information on a Benjamin Zeigler or Ziegler born in Cumberland County, PA March 5, 1830 who migrated early to Illinois and died near Cheyneville, IL. I need to know who his parents were to pursue his lineage. Any one have any info on this one? Dennis Wilhite Benjamin's great great grandson

Looking for additional information on Peter ZEIGLER of Frederich Twp., Montgomery Co., PA b. Dec 2, 1778 and d. June 2, 1856 in Wildcat Valley, Perry Co., PA. He married Polly KEHLER 1784-Nov 10, 1876. They had the following children: Magdalena 1809-1880 m. Willoughby WALT, Andreas 1810-1891 m. Catharine HARNER, Alfred 1825-1897 m. Harriet BATDORF, Nancy m. George NEIMAN, Eliza m. Isaac HEFFELFINGER, Abraham m. Catharine WALT. Robin

I am looking for information on Nancy Ann Ziegler (1793-1862) of Hereford, Berks Co. and Venango Co. PA. She married John Latchaw (b. 1787 Bally, Berks Co.- d.1863 Barkeyville, Venango Co.) If anybody has any information, ideas, or theories I would love to know. Thank you. Sincerely, Josh Delaney