from JAZ Earl you are correct about Jacob's DOB. I know he came over on the Ship Ann Galley in 1746, so if he was a baby (say 1 year old) then he would be about 30 when he got married in 1775. What did you indicate for his birth? Did you get my previous request? about your Ziegler info? Can you tell me what Iam doing wrong with this list and posting? am I suppose to see a continuous dialog between all the Zieglers, or do I have to compose a letter and send it each time. For some reason I see the dialog sometimes with the prompt > . Let me know if you can help me. My email is zieglerj2@hotmail.com and I am sending to ziegler-l@rootsweb.com but am I suppose to be sending or posting and should I see the continuos dialog now? / ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
MR RICHARD H MATHEWS wrote: > There's been more activity on the Ziegler group list this week than > there was all summer! Thanks, Pam and Jack, for waking us up. > > Based on the posts I've seen to this list over the past year, it > would seem that 9 of every 10 Ziegler researchers can trace their > lines through the state of Pennsylvania. However, I know of no PA > Zieglers in my own line. I can trace my line back to Georg Jakob > Ziegler, who was born in Wuerttemberg, Germany on October 3, 1848. He > and his wife Ana Maria Weinmann Ziegler came to Faribault County, MN, > in 1881, and moved on to Yamhill County, OR in 1886. They had 13 > children, the names and spouses of whom I can share with anyone who > might be interested. > > If you have any interest in or connections to this > Germany/Minnesota/Oregon branch of Zieglers, I'd be interested to > hear from you. Thanks. > > Richard Mathews > Brea, California ************************************************************* Hi Richard, Oburg Bob H. here, Do you have any information on the area in Wurttember your Zieglers came from? Did any of them come from Shonstetten (70 KM ESE of Stuttgardt) area and do you have any information on this area? Here is our best guess on dates, names and places of our Ziegler, Zeigler, Seigler, Segler, Zaegler immigrants: ********************************************************************* Born in Shonstetten and lived there until 1750s b. about 1690 / 1710, Fritz, Frederick Ziegler b. about 1715, Bernard Ziegler married about 1738 in Sohn. Unknown, children; Anna Barbara, 1740 and Christina, 1749. b. about 1727, Carolus Ziegler married about 1744 in Shon. Unknown, children; Mary Margaret, 1746, Eva Elizabeth, 1748, John Carol, 1750 b. about 1728, Mary Ann Ziegler, married 1748 in Sohn. Conrad Holman; children 1 b. about 1730. Martin Ziegler, married in Shon. Unknown, children 1. b. 1732, John George Ziegler b. 27 Mar. 1733, Anna Barbara Ziegler, married 1757 in SC Gottlieb Stabler b. about 1734, David Ziegler b. about 1735, Nicholas Ziegler, married in Shon. about 1746 Unknown, children; John Henry. 1748. b. about 1736, William Ziegler b. about 1738, Michael Ziegler b. 1740 Jacob Ziegler Born in Leipzig, Germany, Francois Dufour was tutor for the Ziegler children in Shonstetten until 1752 and then in SC until death in about 1774. DO NOT USE THIS AS DOCUMENTED OR RESEARCHED INFORMATION. ********************************************************************
OK; I'll bite, my ZIEGLER's md into my GILKERSON's in Wayne Co WV ca 1850 Col John ZIEGLER (a Yankee) lived in Boyd County KY in 1870 and was the father of Hiram Ziegler also a Hessian from PA in the Union Army. I am not searching for his descendants since my Grandmothers Sister Delilah GILKERSON md Hiram. Will look up more if requested. Those old Germans probably came from Western PA ca 1838. Dallas Johnson Big Sandy Area/Ohio River WV-JOHNSON, IRONS, GILKERSON, FULLER, HAZLETT, CURNUTTE, DAVIS, HENSLEY KY-JOHNSON, FRANCIS, HENSLEY, GILKERSON OH-JOHNSON, IRONS On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 10:58:39 -0400 Earl_Cook@pvn.com writes: > >Pam, > >Didn't receive your email address (my reader's different than most >others) >so I have to respond here to the list. > >About 6 or 7 of us Ziegler researchers suddenly discovered we had an >"informal" group going, and I have suggested that everyone subscribe >to this list to relay our info back and forth. We are all working on >the >same lines, but we need to share with all the other via this list. > >Haven't gotten any replies yet from the others, but maybe the traffic >will >pick up a bit. > >RGDS:EARL in Louisville >earl_cook@pvn.com >ecook@ntr.net > > >
Well now that you woke me with your John of Cumberland PA; here goes the 1850 census for Wayne Co WV. You may be able to find John Ziegler in the 1840 cenus of Greenup/Boyd/or Lawrence Co KY. John L. Zigler 37 4000 PA lots of personal property Suzan (Hampton) 36 VA Hiram C. 11 KY William A. 8 KY Elizabeth M. 7 KY John H. 5 VA Helen M 2 VA Joseph P. 6 months VA Thsi family I believe is mentioned in the Greenup Co KY History by Nina BIGGS. Suzan was Doc. -------Hampton 's daughter bn on Dock's creek. Interesting Hampton history may be found in History of Cabell Co WV--to you Westerners that Huntington WV. Dallas Johnson Big Sandy Area/Ohio River WV-JOHNSON, IRONS, GILKERSON, FULLER, HAZLETT, CURNUTTE, DAVIS, HENSLEY KY-JOHNSON, FRANCIS, HENSLEY, GILKERSON OH-JOHNSON, IRONS On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:04:40 -0400 (EDT) PilgrimD@aol.com writes: >so let's try this one again. I am looking for any information that >might >lead me to the parents of Benjamin Zeigler. I have a great deal of >information on him from the time he left Carlisle in 1850 through his >descendents to the present. I just can't seem to find anything that >will >tell me who's kid he was. Born 3/5/1830 in Carlisle, Cumberland Co, >PA, I >assume into some family. I do know that he had an older brother named >John. > Any hints would be appreciated. > >Dennis Wilhite > >
Listowner: Sorry, but I don't know your private email address, so I am posting this in hopes you will see it. I am getting duplicate copies of each message posted to the list whether by me or by someone else. Can you advise me if I need to do something?? TNX:RGDS:EARL COOK EARL_COOK@PVN.COM
The traffic has definitely been high, but for me it has doubled since I am getting two copies of everything sent. Is this happening to anyone else? Who is the list owner? I need to let him know. EARL
This is a resend of a message that went at the beginning of the month. Rick ---------- > From: Bob Sled <lobosolo@halcyon.com> > To: ZIEGLER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Emma Alice Ziegler > Date: Monday, September 01, 1997 12:04 PM > > Hello, > > New subscriber here. I am searching for info on the following person: > > Emma Alice Ziegler (or Zeigler) born in Maryland abt 1863, married William > Zittle abt 1883 in Sharpsburg, MD. Moved to Sangamon County, IL. Remarried > Joseph Sexton 5/18/1915 in Springfield, IL. Died June 17, 1928, age 65, in > Marne, IA and buried in Springfield, IL. > > If this person is in anybody's line please let me know. Thanks. > > Richard Sergeant > Seattle, WA
I have only found two listings for my Father's Maternal Grandfather, W. M. Zeigler: once in the 1860 census (age 38, coachmaker, b. PENN) with spouse Anna Kennedy (b. PENN, age 31), daughter Susan Jane (age 11, born SC, my GGrandmother, married James C. Martin [b. SC 1844]), son William (age 9, b. SC),daughter Laura (age 5, b. SC),and infant daughter, age 4 months. once in the Charleston City Directory for 1868, listed as a house painter. I don't even know his full name. A question-- Were there a lot of RailRoad employees in the 1800's? A lot of my Martins and Browns were connected to Railroads. Does anyone know? Thanks, Caroline Williams
There's been more activity on the Ziegler group list this week than there was all summer! Thanks, Pam and Jack, for waking us up. Based on the posts I've seen to this list over the past year, it would seem that 9 of every 10 Ziegler researchers can trace their lines through the state of Pennsylvania. However, I know of no PA Zieglers in my own line. I can trace my line back to Georg Jakob Ziegler, who was born in Wuerttemberg, Germany on October 3, 1848. He and his wife Ana Maria Weinmann Ziegler came to Faribault County, MN, in 1881, and moved on to Yamhill County, OR in 1886. They had 13 children, the names and spouses of whom I can share with anyone who might be interested. If you have any interest in or connections to this Germany/Minnesota/Oregon branch of Zieglers, I'd be interested to hear from you. Thanks. Richard Mathews Brea, California
Mon, 29 Sep 1997 16:32:16 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 97 23:26:39 UT From: "Betty Smith" <smithbreig@classic.msn.com> Message-Id: <UPMAIL17.199709292331540273@classic.msn.com> To: "PJ" <pjben@ix.netcom.com> Subject: RE: Test Betty, This was sent to me I believe in error, so I'm sending it here to the list. Pam All right...so I'll post something... My g-grandfather was William ZIEGLER (1826-1870) m. Louisa Eberwine (Everwine) (1834-1925) on July 3, 1949 in Indiana County, Pennsylvania. Her father Jacob Everwine (?-1873) first settled in Blairsville, then in Indiana City, then in Rayne Township, all in Indiana County. Assuming William and Louisa married near her parent's home, these are the options. I am in possession of William Ziegler's will which was signed on March 21, 1870 and executed April 26, 1870. His widow is executrix. Does anyone have any inkling of this William Ziegler's parents? He had only daughters: Kate Ziegler Clark (?-1906), Rose, Margaret, Anne J. Schuler (1867-1958) and Mary Louise Selig Hoffman (1869-1936). ---------- From: PJ Sent: Monday, September 29, 1997 10:35 AM To: ZIEGLER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Test Earl, I was wondering that myself...:) It appears to be, just no one is posting anything. Researching: Armbruster Bodden Kettner Mueller Seeger Tatsch Weyh Ziegler http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/1214/ Take Care! Pam
>To: Earl_Cook@pvn.com >From: twest@ican.net (Tom West) >Subject: Re: Ziegler traffic >Cc: >Bcc: >X-Attachments: > >Here is my Ziegler information. IU can provide extensive information on the BECHTEL line if any one is interested. I would appreciate a chance to extend my "dead ends". > >Tom >> >Descendants of Michael Ziegler > > 1 Michael Ziegler b: 1684 in Germany or Switzerland d: 1765 in Skippock, Pennsylvania >. +Catherine Unknown Father: Mother: > 2 Susanna Ziegler b: February 19, 1718/19 in Basle, Switzerland d: November 20, 1789 >.... +Jacob Schumacher b: March 31, 1708 in Pfaltz, Germany m: 1740 Jacob SCHUMACHER Mary KUNDER >.. 3 Michael Schumacher b: March 16, 1741/42 d: 1838 >...... +Anna Hackman Father: Mother: >.... 4 Elizabeth Schumacher >.... 4 Jacob Schumacher d: 1829 >........ +Catherine Clemence Garrett CLEMENCE Mother: >...... 5 Anna Schumacher >.......... +Philip Schwartly Father: Mother: >...... 5 Catherine Schumacher >...... 5 Garrett Schumacher b: 1810 >.......... +Ann Unknown Father: Mother: >...... 5 Elizabeth Schumacher >...... 5 Sarah Schumacher >.... 4 John Schumacher b: 1776 d: January 22, 1865 >........ +Elizabeth Moyer d: October 19, 1861 Father: Mother: >...... 5 Michael Schumacher >...... 5 John Schumacher b: 1807 >.......... +Mariah Myers Henry MYERS Mother: >...... 5 Jacob Schumacher b: March 31, 1812 d: September 9, 1885 >.......... +Amanda Allen Tomlinson b: 1817 d: 1865 m: April 9, 1840 Father: Mother: >...... 5 David Schumacher b: June 22, 1816 d: August 8, 1859 >.......... +Amanda Wall b: 1819 d: 1860 Father: Mother: >...... 5 Jonas Schumacher b: 1805 >.......... +Jane Unknown Father: Mother: >...... 5 Mary Schumacher >...... 5 Nancy Schumacher >.... 4 George Schumacher b: 1780 >........ +Anna Ziegler Jascob ZIEGLER Mother: >...... 5 Michael Schumacher b: 1829 >...... 5 Benjamin Schumacher >...... 5 Jonas Schumacher b: 1817 >.......... +Carlina Father: Mother: >.... 4 Susanna Schumacher >........ +Abraham Allderfer m: 1808 Father: Mother: >.... 4 Michael Schumacher b: 1788 >........ +Catherine Father: Mother: >.. 3 Catharine Schumacher b: April 22, 1746 >.. 3 Anna Schumacher b: July 20, 1748 >.. 3 Elizabeth Schumacher b: February 10, 1750/51 >.. 3 Jacob Schumacher b: October 21, 1752 d: July 13, 1754 >.. 3 Jacob Schumacher b: July 27, 1754 in Lower Saltord, Montgomert Co, PA, USA d: November 19, 1847 in Ontario >...... +Mary Tyson b: April 7, 1752 d: July 12, 1803 William A. TYSON Alice NASH >.... 4 Maria Shoemaker b: January 21, 1793 d: February 6, 1840 in Waterloo County, Ontario >........ +George B. Bechtel b: May 24, 1777 in Montgomery County, Pensylvania d: November 15, 1851 m: November 15, 1817 George BECHTEL Mary BITTING >...... 5 Noah S. Bechtel b: September 22, 1818 in Montgomery Co., PA, USA d: September 2, 1901 >.......... +Veronica Christner b: September 28, 1820 in Upper Alsace, DEU d: April 21, 1907 John CHRISTNER Maria LUCKEBIHL >...... 5 Rudolph Bechtel b: October 29, 1819 in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania d: July 2, 1862 in Wilmot Twp., Ontario >.......... +Magdelena Jones b: August 16, 1821 d: June 5, 1886 in Wilmot Twp. Waterloo Co., ON, CAN m: 1848 in Pottstown, Pennsylvania John JONES Martha SALTZBERGER >...... 5 Abigail Bechtel b: October 8, 1821 in Pottstown, Montgomery Co. PA, USA d: July 23, 1913 >.......... +Enoch Detweiler b: March 7, 1818 in Bucks County, Pa, USA d: September 18, 1874 m: January 18, 1842 Father: Mother: >...... 5 Leah S. Bechtel b: June 23, 1823 d: April 1, 1896 >.......... +Christian Hallman b: October 25, 1822 d: December 9, 1902 m: March 4, 1845 Benjamin HALLMAN Elizabeth DETWEILER >...... 5 Esther Bechtel b: March 4, 1826 d: December 30, 1909 >.......... +Benjamin Bricker Father: Mother: >...... 5 Isabella Bechtel b: February 18, 1829 in Montgomery Co., PA, USA d: March 13, 1850 >.... 4 Isaac Shoemaker b: 1800 >.... 4 John Shoemaker b: May 12, 1775 in Montgomery Co., PA, USA d: January 30, 1828 in Montgomery Co., PA, USA >........ +Mary Schantz m: May 2, 1797 Father: Mother: >...... 5 Jacob S. Shoemaker b: 1798 d: 1876 in Preston, ON >.......... +Elizabeth Schneider m: 1822 Father: Mother: >...... 5 Isaac Shoemaker b: 1800 d: 1805 >...... 5 John Shoemaker b: 1803 d: 1828 >.......... +Fanny Sailor Father: Mother: >...... 5 Barbara Shoemaker b: 1805 >.......... +John S. Rotes Father: Mother: >...... 5 Mary Shoemaker b: 1808 >.......... +Michael Myers m: 1829 Father: Mother: >...... 5 Joseph Shoemaker b: 1810 d: 1810 >...... 5 Magdelena Shoemaker b: 1811 >.......... +Barnabas Devitt m: 1831 Father: Mother: >...... 5 Veronica Shoemaker b: 1815 >.......... +Isaac Eby m: 1831 Father: Mother: >...... 5 David Shoemaker b: 1820 d: January 6, 1891 >.......... +Elizabeth Louisa Knickerbocker Father: Mother: >...... *2nd Wife of David Shoemaker: >.......... +Margaret W. Knickerbocker d: 1860 m: 1841 Father: Mother: >.... 4 George Shoemaker >........ +Maria Detweller Father: Mother: >...... 5 Jacob D. Shoemaker b: 1799 >.......... +Jane Dunbar Father: Mother: >...... 5 John Shoemaker >...... 5 Mary Shoemaker >...... 5 George D. Shoemaker >...... 5 Elizabeth Shoemaker >...... 5 Joseph D. Shoemaker >...... 5 Abraham D. Shoemaker >...... 5 Daniel Shoemaker >...... 5 Joshua Shoemaker >...... 5 Catherine Shoemaker >.... 4 Jacob Shoemaker >.... 4 Elizabeth Shoemaker >.. *2nd Wife of Jacob Schumacher: >...... +Magdalena Longeneker m: Aft 1803 Father: Mother: >.... 4 George Schumacher >.... 4 Jacob Schumacher >.... 4 Elizabeth Schumacher >.... 4 Mary Schumacher >.. 3 Gertrude Schumacher b: September 8, 1757 >.. 3 Mary Schumacher b: September 5, 1760 > 2 Andrew Ziegler b: Unknown >.... +Elizabeth Kolb b: 1715 d: 1780 Dielman KOLB Elizabeth SCHNEBLI >.. 3 Dilman Ziegler b: Abt 1735 >.. 3 Michael Ziegler >.. 3 Andrew Ziegler >.. 3 Elizabeth Ziegler > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ Looking for Hatches, Matches and Dispatches ~ ~ Thomas A. West P.Eng. 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I am looking for Sebastian Zahnweh b: abt 1873 Germany d: abt 1945-1947 marr:#1 Sadie E.___ #2 Mary Ziegler b: Nov 7, 1890 d: Feb 1967. Mary may be buried in PA. Any help would really be appreciated.
so let's try this one again. I am looking for any information that might lead me to the parents of Benjamin Zeigler. I have a great deal of information on him from the time he left Carlisle in 1850 through his descendents to the present. I just can't seem to find anything that will tell me who's kid he was. Born 3/5/1830 in Carlisle, Cumberland Co, PA, I assume into some family. I do know that he had an older brother named John. Any hints would be appreciated. Dennis Wilhite
Does anyone have any information about any of the following: Harry Siegler: born Brooklyn, NY 1869 married Maria (Mary) Katherine Schaefer in Brooklyn on 7/15/1893 two children: Elizabeth (Lillian) and Ernest. Harry's brother: Charlie Siegler born 1877 in NY birth name might have been Karl Friedrich Siegler lived in Beacon NY wife's name: Marion, born 1883 at least four children: Augusta, Charlene, Amanda, & Charles Jr. Harry & Karl's parents: Carl (Karl?) and Katherine Siegler. No other information known. Harry Siegler was my great-grandfather. In our family records, the name is spelled "Siegler", but in census records I have also seen it spelled "Sigler" and "Seigler". Thanks, Gordon Bainbridge Northern California
>From ziegler-l-request@rootsweb.com Mon Sep 29 16:59:11 1997 >Received: (from slist@localhost) > by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA19586; > Mon, 29 Sep 1997 16:54:56 -0700 (PDT) >Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 16:54:56 -0700 (PDT) >Message-ID: <34304145.33E6@ix.netcom.com> >Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 20:01:09 -0400 >From: PJ <pjben@ix.netcom.com> >X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-NC320 (Win95; I) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: ZIEGLER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Test Betty Smith >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Resent-Message-ID: <"rPd8yD.A.5xE.M_DM0"@bl-14.rootsweb.com> >Resent-From: ZIEGLER-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <ZIEGLER-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/38 >X-Loop: ZIEGLER-L@rootsweb.com >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: ZIEGLER-L-request@rootsweb.com > >Mon, 29 Sep 1997 16:32:16 -0700 >Date: Mon, 29 Sep 97 23:26:39 UT >From: "Betty Smith" <smithbreig@classic.msn.com> >Message-Id: <UPMAIL17.199709292331540273@classic.msn.com> >To: "PJ" <pjben@ix.netcom.com> >Subject: RE: Test > >Betty, > >This was sent to me I believe in error, so I'm sending it here to the >list. > >Pam > >All right...so I'll post something... >My g-grandfather was William ZIEGLER (1826-1870) m. Louisa Eberwine >(Everwine) >(1834-1925) on July 3, 1949 in Indiana County, Pennsylvania. Her father >Jacob >Everwine (?-1873) first settled in Blairsville, then in Indiana City, >then in >Rayne Township, all in Indiana County. Assuming William and Louisa >married >near her parent's home, these are the options. >I am in possession of William Ziegler's will which was signed on March >21, >1870 and executed April 26, 1870. His widow is executrix. >Does anyone have any inkling of this William Ziegler's parents? >He had only daughters: Kate Ziegler Clark (?-1906), Rose, Margaret, Anne >J. >Schuler (1867-1958) and Mary Louise Selig Hoffman (1869-1936). > >---------- >From: PJ >Sent: Monday, September 29, 1997 10:35 AM >To: ZIEGLER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Test > >Earl, > >I was wondering that myself...:) It appears to be, just no one is >posting anything. > >Researching: Armbruster Bodden Kettner Mueller Seeger Tatsch Weyh >Ziegler >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/1214/ > >Take Care! >Pam >Earl, ho >my name is Jack Ziegler and I am posting for the first time. Did you get this? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
from Jack Allen Ziegler I just subscribed to rootsweb.com. please send me your name and email to let me know who I am writing to you through Ziegler-l@rootsweb.com. Iam not sure how this works but I am in and Iam going to see how it works ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
from Jack Allen Ziegler my email is zieglerj2@hotmail.com Connect me to ziegler-l@rootsweb.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Hello All, Is anyone else researching this line? If so please contact me at my email address below. Heinrich Ziegler b 1860? married Agnes Mueller 1865? had the following children: Ernst Ziegler born 3/26/1902 in Barth,Pommern Germany. D.4/2/1948 New York,USA Herbert Ziegler m. Charlotte ? Herbert had come to America and went back to Germany in 1938 or 1939. Anneliese Ziegler Agnes Ziegler There is belief their may have been other children born to the above. If there is any connection, please let me know.
Pam, Didn't receive your email address (my reader's different than most others) so I have to respond here to the list. About 6 or 7 of us Ziegler researchers suddenly discovered we had an "informal" group going, and I have suggested that everyone subscribe to this list to relay our info back and forth. We are all working on the same lines, but we need to share with all the other via this list. Haven't gotten any replies yet from the others, but maybe the traffic will pick up a bit. RGDS:EARL in Louisville earl_cook@pvn.com ecook@ntr.net
Well, I am here. I am a newbie to the Ziegler list but still interested. The "test" messages reminded me a little of some kind of space probe looking for life on distant planets!!! Oh, I consider myself reasonably intelligent. You can tell your people there is "intelligent life" out there!!! (hehehe) Richard