Judy , Wilma Hillman and others. Did yiu see the two articles that Brownie found both on 10/30/06, Lees etc. and Lees, etc.2. The first article is about the Lee family and how they have found a Lucy Lee Smith, daughter of Richard Lee. She married 2nd a William Montigue. There is another very good article, House of Montigue, which outline Peter Montigue and his family down to George Twyman I married Agatha Buford.Now I did not see a marriage of Lucy Smith to a William Montigue. But on our Peter Montigue outline there is a Lettice Ledford Weeks m. James Pace, of interest there is that one of Richard's daughter was a Lettice Lee and I'll have to read that Lee article again to see if it was the Ledford she married second.Anyways on out outline Catherine Montigue supposedly married John Lee but the House of Montigue outline she married someone else. Also, John Lee is listed as I think executor (on pg.26 of a will by a Thomas Montigues wife, Penelope. And it seems like he is mentioned somewhere else. There's a lot to comprehend in that article and I haven't looked at it today.But in the House of Montigue article page 2, note that Peter Montigue was friends with a Sam Matthews. The Lees and I'm thinking it was Lucy Lee married a Baldwin Matthews Smith Also, on page 3, the Church in Lancaster was built by the Carters as in King Carter who was a relation of the Carters who married into the Ragans and also William Montigue and Peter attended this church.Also, a Hannah Ball m. a Montigue. Be sure to read the Lee article first, because it makes some of the second one make a little more sense.There is also an article on the Lee Society page where this lady who proposed the change to the ancestors of Richard Lee submitted her article and had it acceptedin the 1960's?I e-mailed the man who wrote the Peter Montigue article to ask him about John Lee. He wasn't listed as a husband of Catherine Montigue or Agatha Buford in his article. ________________________________ From: [email protected] on behalf of ginger40220 Sent: Tue 10/31/2006 4:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] sOMETHING FOR jOSHUA yOUNGER DESCENDANTS Re: Lee Judy Foley, Willie Hillman, and all, here is some of the Lee information that I looked at after some of the discussion concerning Lees and our families. Some of our Youngers' ancestors' names are Buford, Montague, Deering/Dearing, and Twyman. Some of the information I've found on the following families is from the book: Daniell-Prater Dearing-Twyman Thoden-Hartley-Titshaw, compiled by Alice and Forrest Daniell. (Alice Prater Daniell), publ 1973, Houston, TX. I found this source at Kentucky Historical Library, Frankfort, Kentucky. Another source was Genforum postings on Buford and Lee sites. One assertion of the Buford family is that Thomas Buford (May 21, 1682 - 1761) married Elizabeth Metstand Lee. This has been challenged by Lee researcher Mike Lee of Lynchburg, VA, Genforum posting on Dec 23, 2001. Other names for Elizabeth have been said to be Ball or Johnson. John Lee, dates unknown is shown as one of Aggatha Buford's husbands. (Aggatha was the daughter of Thomas and Elizabeth mentioned above.) My estimate is that they married after 1736. Aggatha was born Aug 13, 1705 in Middlesex Co., VA; died aft 1785 in Madison Co, VA at son William's home. I have not found any children from her marriage to John Lee. George Lee is listed as husband of Mary Buford, another daughter of Thomas and Elizabeth. Again referring to Aggatha Buford, her second husband was John Warrick/Warwick/Warlick. He is said to be the son of Thomas Warwick and Mary Lee. Mary Lee was a widow of William Jones when she married Thomas Warwick. Again, from Mike Lee's information, "This Mary Lee is reportedly a daughter of Thomas Lee who died in Middlesex 1709." I am quick to say, this is not my personal research and I defer to the diligent research of the people who've provided this information. Respectfully, Judy Younger Hofstetter -----Original Message----- >From: Judy <[email protected]> >Sent: Oct 29, 2006 8:08 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [YOUNGER] sOMETHING FOR jOSHUA yOUNGER DESCENDANTS > >Wilma Hillman, Interesting that you should mention the Lee's in relation to the Ragan's. I guess, I have never sent you (Judy Hoffstetter sent me) a family tree of Mary Agatha Deering. Judy got this family tree from the Kentucky Historical Society, I believe. But up through her line is a John Lee and John Lee, Jr. who I believe is the John Lee who married Becky Thompson. Now I can't say that John Lee is related to the family of Robert E. Lee but it seems to me if Mary Younger Ragan's mother is related to Lee's.....Anyways Judy Hoffstetter is going to hunt up the family tree and get back to you. Another item of interest is that on my Pittman side, and my gg grandfather, Francis Marion married Emma Younger, anyways his grandmother on his mother's side was a Shirley. Now this Shirley Family came from Barren County,KY before they went to McCleansboro, IL. Now I have not determined if this line came from the same line as those from the Shirley Plantation. I was also interested i! > f Belle Starr was from my line, because she married into the Youngers. What I did find is that she is from a different line of Shirley's. There is a Shirley Family Association online, and they have done DNA. My Shirley line has been done. I can't think of the progenitor off hand. I would have to look it up. But Belle Star's exact line had not been done, but somebody on an adjacent line named Valentine Shirley had been done. And that is shown on this web site. I know that a Shirley family did live in Crab Orchard at the same time or around the same time the Youngers lived there. But also of interest is that there was a Shirley family that lived in Orange County, IN which is where Joshua Younger lived before moving to the next county up, where Bedford, IN is. In other family interest, Francis Marion Pittman's brother, Albert Judson Pittman married Sarah Shasteen(Chastein). Her g grandfather being a Jesse Shasteen who came from Wayne County, KY where the Chastein family lived! > on Little Otter Creek.No exact proof that he was a Chastein.But Emma' >s father, John B. Younger came to McCleansboro and married into the Braden family. He married Sara Margaret Reed Braden and his daughter, Florella Devers married Jacob Braden, parents being Albert Braden and Mary Ann Shasteen. Which makes me wonder about the relationship of Sophia Younger Ragan's, second husband Charles Braden. Who was a Minister in Southern Illinois.The Bradens in McCleansboro started several churches. Well, to top this all off Sarah Shasteen's gg grandmother on her mother's side I believe was Katherine Nall m. a George Trout in Nashville and they moved to McCleansboro. I have not determined who her father was. Also, on the Pittman side and I would have to look it up are some Raine or Raines or something similar and I know one of Peter Youngers daughters married a Raines.Now if any of these people relate from the Pittman side to the Ragon's is not known, but it's an interesting thought, although I have not drawn any conclusions due to lack of evidence, oth! > er than they were loosely related and all the names seem to fit. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message