According to my research notes, the James Younger who married Harriett Garr was not the son of Isaac & Ellen Younger. They did not have a son named James. Here are notes for Isaac & Ellen Younger: (Isaac, son of Henry & Ruth (Gatch) Younger and Ellen, daughter of Kennard & Elizabeth (Cambren/on) Younger 1. "A list of the names and ages of Henry & Ruth Gatch Younger's children born in Kentucky:.....Isaac Younger born Nov. 30, 1801 (moved to Vermillion Co., Indiana; md. his first cousin.)" (Younger Family Bible Records. 1980 Ky Ancestors V16-1. p. 37) 2. Isaac Younger md. Miss Ellen Younger 4 Nov 1822 (license) (Bullitt co. Marriage Registry. FHL film #4872690) 3. Isaac Younger (jr.) on Bullitt Co. tax lists from 1821 to 1847 (tax books missing 1848-49). He is taxed for 100 acres on Crooked Creek 1838 to 1841. He owned 1 slave from 1844 to 1847. (tax books missing for 1843 and 1848-9) Number of children corresponds with group sheet. 4. Kentucky 1830 census - Isaac Younger - Bullitt Co. free white males <5 (1825-30) 1 (Charles W.) 5-10 (1820-25) 1 (James) 20-30 (1800-10) 1 (Isaac) females <5 (1825-30) 1 (Louisa Jane) 5-10 (1820-25) 1 (Eilzabeth) 20-30 (1800-10) 1 (Ellen) 5. Kentucky 1840 census - Isaac Younger - Bullitt Co. free white males 5-10 (1830-35) 1 (John) 10-15 (1825-30) 1 (Charles W.) 15-20 (1820-25) 1 (James) 30-40 (1800-10) 1 (Isaac) females <5 (1835-40) 1 (Angeline) 5-10 (1830-35) 1 (Martha) 30-40 (1800-10) 1 (Ellen) 6. Vermillion Co. Ind. 1850 census: 198 Isaac Younger 50m farmer Ky Ellen 50f " John 20m " Angeline 14f " John Watson 10m " Clinton Township 24 Oct 1850 7. Isaac Younger died in 1874 in Paris, Edgar, Illinois, and is buried in Spangler Cemetery Vermillion Co. Indiana. (from Archive record submitted by Louisa Dragoo Irving, Box 159, Barnwell, Alberta, Canada.) The following are notes for James Younger who married Harriet Garr: , he was the son of Ebenezer (son of Kennard) and Lydia (Crigler) Younger: 1. James Younger md Harriet Garr dau of Ben Garr Dec. 20 Nov 1845 by R.W. Deats Justice of Peace Bullitt Co. (Bullitt Co. Marriage Registry. FHL film #482690) 2. Bullitt Co. 1850 census: 590 James Younger 29 m farmer 590 Ky Illit. Harriet 22 f KY Illit. Ellen 4 f Ky Rebecca Gaar 16 f KY 3. Bullitt Co. 1860 census: 445 Jas. Younger 39 m farmer --$250 Ky crw H. " 30 f KY E. " 14 f " J.W. " 9 m " L. " 7 f " B. " 5 m " Shepherdsville Aug 13, 1860 4. Bullitt Co. 1870 census: 292 James Younger 52 mw farmer $1000-$350 Ky Harriet " 48fw keeping house KY Ellen " 22 fw at home " John W. " 18 mw " Birhead? " 17 mw " Lydia " 16 fw " James " 5 mw " Edward Garr 52 mw laborer " Pine Tavern Dist. Bardstown July 15, 1870 5. Bullitt Co. 1880 census: James Younger wm 59 father md works farm KyKyKy H. Younger wf 45 wife KyKyKy J.W. " wm 29 son single " " " J.B. " wm 24 son " " " " J.B. " wm 15 son " " " " Leuellen " wf 30 dau " " " " L.A. " wf 24 dau " " " " Pine Tavern Dist. e.d.26 #16 6. James Younger appears on Bullitt Co. tax list from 1844 to 1867 (end of extraction). He is taxed for 100 acres unspecified 1864 to 1866. The number of children as given in the tax list corresponds with that reflected on the group record. Joseph B. Younger who married Amanda Hazzard was the informant on his son Warren's death certificate 14 April 1915 (Bullitt Co.). He signed his name "Bert" Younger and gave Bert Younger as father, Mindie Hazard for mother of Warren. Joseph B. Younger is named J. Bert Younger on his own death certificate 22 November 1923 (Jefferson County). ----- Original Message ----- From: "JudyFoley" <judyfoley@peoplepc.com> To: <katsus19@yahoo.co.uk>; <younger@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Youngers of BirKenhead >I got to thinking about the name and remembered a very similiar name in the >family of Isaac Younger of Bullitt County, seems he moved to >Illinois.Birkhead Younger. Always struck me as a strange name. Below is >from www.rootsweb.com. I put in Birkhead Younger.• ID: I52694 > • Name: James Younger > • Sex: M > • Birth: ABT 1823 in Bullitt Co, Kentucky > • Note: > Note: 1850 Bullitt Co, KY Census > > James YOUNGER 29m farmer > Harriett 22 f > Ellen 4f > Rebeca ? 16 f > > NOTES: James YOUNGER m. Harriet GARR Nov. 19, 1845. He was s/o Isaac > YOUNGER and Eleanor YOUNGER ( they were cousins ) Harriett is the daughter > of Benjamin Garr and the sister of Rebecca Garr (16f). Benjamin Garr was > deceased by the time Harriett married. > > James and Harriett Younger had Luellen (ca. 1846), John W. (ca. 1851), > Lydia Ann (ca. 1852), Joseph Birkhead (ca. 1855), and James B. (ca. 1865). > Lydia Ann Younger married Isaac Noe on 4 Jul 1882. Joseph Birkhead Younger > married Amanda Hazzard on 31 Jan 1887. Rebecca Garr married Jefferson > Younger (b. ca. 1840) on 28 Jul 1861, Bullitt Co. > • Change Date: 20 JAN 2008 > > Father: Isaac Younger b: 30 NOV 1801 in Bullitt Co, Kentucky > Mother: Eleanor Younger b: 13 MAY 1802 in Kentucky > > Marriage 1 Harriett Garr b: ABT 1828 in Kentucky > • Married: 19 NOV 1845 in Bullitt Co, Kentucky > Children > 1. Joseph Birkhead Younger b: ABT 1855 in Bullitt Co, Kentucky > > > > Seems pretty logical that name could have come from Birkenhead. What kind > of stories have you heard that you weren't sure to be proved or disproved? > Such as a relative of the Younger "gang" by chance? > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Geoff Rowland <katsus19@yahoo.co.uk> >>Sent: Sep 29, 2008 12:42 PM >>To: YOUNGER@rootsweb.com >>Subject: [YOUNGER] Youngers of BirKenhead >> >>Is anybody else out there in Rootsweb-land interested in the YOUNGER >>family from Birkenhead. >> >>In the 1881 census they were the only family of that name in >>Birkenhead. My grandmother Ethel, a schoolteacher, was born two years >>later Ethel 13 April 1883. She married my grandfather Samuel Rowland in >>1920 and died in Churton by Aldford 23 Dec 1941. There are several >>stories about her and her family which we have been unable to confirm >>or disprove and are now looking for anybody else who is researching >>them. >> >> >> >>In hope, >> >> >> >>Geoff Rowland