That was one of the issues I dealt with in today's message. There were two Johns in that family; one who married Sarah Terry and the other JHWY. I can't figure out why Mary named two of her sons John although she certainly qualified JHWY's name in a big way- I'm hedging on JHWY's birth date until some one can document it, JYG wrote: > I have John Younger b abt 1812 Halifax, Va, Usa to Williamson Younger and > Mary Bomar. Don't ask for a source on this one because I don't have one. > This is an old entry... Now comes JHWC Younger who is claimed to have been > born in 1818... ok lets accept the latter. Then do we discount that JHWC > never married Sarah Terry? Because if he did he was only 12 years old on 8 > Oct 1830 when they married and he was only 16 when his daughter Sarah Ann > Younger was born. Does this make sense? Please tell me if I am wrong on > these dates!! > > 1850 VA Halifax County, Northern District (030) > 476/479 9 Oct > Sarah Younger 40 f $2000 VA > Sarah A. 16 f VA > Mary A. Terry 44 f VA > > SOURCE:-Virginia Marriages, 1740-1850. [Younger-Terry]; 1850 census, head of > household. > > Linda in KC > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wilma C. Hillman" <hillman@one.net> > To: <YOUNGER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 10:33 AM > Subject: [YOUNGER] John Henry Wilson Younger # 2 > > > I thought perhaps it would be helpful if I presented my entire rationale > > on the issue of parentage for John Henry Wilson Yunger [to be referred > > to as JHWY henceforth] > > > > Williamson Younger died 2 Dec 1817. The date is specific since it was > > included in a court record. he died while executing his father, > > William's estate and the date of his death was significant to the legal > > process. His inventory and appraisal occurred 22 Jan 1818 by Fielding > > Bomar and John Light. His children were named and they were: > > William > > Williamson - whose birth occured (Jan) 1817 according to the 1850 census > > & others > > Armistead > > John - who married Sarah Terry) > > James > > Mary > > > > It seemed strange to me that Mary would name a second child John when a > > preceeding child named John was still alive. That is why I double > > checked to be sure that the John listed with Williamson's heirs was not > > the same as JHWY. > > > > Mary Bomar Younger's estate was appraised 16 Sep 1820 and recorded 21 > > Feb 1821. > > This probably means she died shortly before that date because the > > probate usually preceeds the inventory and appraisal. > > > > There was almost imediately a demand by William Sydnor, atty., > > representing William against John, James, Armistead and Williamson by > > guardian William Barksdale that Sydnor set to the highest bidder the > > land and slaves which Mary Younger held in her lifetime and one half of > > the estate of Williamson Younger, dec'd. > > > > Common practice would have given the widow one third of the assets. Why > > were one half being liquidated in the interests of the heirs by their > > guardian? Were the interests of the heirs being protected in case the > > widow remarry as might be the case since she was a very young woman. > > Perhaps there was some indication that that might be the case (a > > premature pregnancy, perhaps?) > > > > In the document previously submitted here in which a Cage was named as > > JHWY's father, Mary provided only for one child, JHWY. Was that because > > she knew the others would be provided for by the terms of Williamson's > > estate? She needed to protect the welfare of her last child, > > apparently. Who better to care for him than his own father? > > > > Although Mary mentioned an anticipated legacy from her father, Bibby > > Bomar, he did not die until late 1832, In the division of his property > > he named the children of Mary, dec'd.: > > Mary Ellington, wife of Loring Ellington > > John, James, Armistead and Williamson Younger > > Wilson Cage > > > > Why did he call all of Williamson Younger's children by the surname > > "Younger" and call the subject of our hypothesis "Cage"? Did he know > > something we do not? It has been suggested that JHWY adopted his > > guardian's name. There seems to be no proof of that. The court records > > in Halifax County VA during that period are replete with guardianships > > and guardian reports for Williamson's heirs, but no evidence of a > > guardianship exists for JHWY. Is that because no guardianship was > > required since it was known that ___ Cage was his father? > > > > If Williamson Younger had been JHWY's father, he would have shared > > equally in the assets of Williamson. There is no evidence that he > > received anything from Williamson's estate. He had full entitlement to > > any assets that were those of his mother and received from her assets. > > > > Which brings us to 6 March 1838 > > Halifax County VA Deed Book 45:187 > > William Younger and wife Priscilla } > > Williamson Younger and wife Louisa } both of Pittsylvania > > Armistead and wife Rebecca > > Joseph Goodman and wife Sarah (who are these people? Sarah is the > > remarried widow > > of James Younger, dec'd. > > (only Mary is missing and it is unknown if she survived to this date) > > These were the heirs and distributors of James Younger, dec'd, late of > > Halifax County, VA of the one part who sold to Joseph Fuqua and William > > bates of the same, witnesseth that the above named heirs sell for $91.66 > > a parcel of land, it being one third part of the estate that fell to > > Mary Younger in the division of Bibby Bomar's estate by commissioners > > appointed for that purpose, and which tract became by the demise of Mary > > Younger, the property of James Younger, dec'd. together with all the > > rights and priveleges. Signed by all the above heirs. > > > > This obviously was not an oversight on the part of the heirs. They had > > no intention of including JHWY. He would, however, have been entitled to > > a full share of the property since these were his mother's assets which > > in her division went to James. When James died the property fell back to > > Mary's children to divide equally. Keep in mind these were not the > > assets of Williamson. That is important. > > > > It is at this point that JHWY appointed a power of atty to represent his > > interests > > . There was perhaps even a law suit (of which I have no knowlege but > > expect his POA would have pursued that course if he was fully > > representing him.) > > > > The document submitted today by Brownie indicates that he was successful > > in his quest - and rightly so- again, since these were his mother's > > assets from her father. > > > > I have a birthdate for John henry Wilson Younger which was given to me > > without documentation. I hesitate to publish it without documentation > > since it is such a vital piece of evidence. 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