You know, I answer to just about everything. My grandmother tried for years to get me to go by "Lewy" - Larry isn't that far off. ;) - Stephen On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 4:10 PM, JudyFoley <judyfoley@peoplepc.com> wrote: > Sorry Stephen I was thinking your name was Larry. I guess the LSY did it > for me. > > ________________________________________ > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In a message dated 12/29/2008 1:04:28 P.M. Central Standard Time, lsy.genealogy@gmail.com writes: We believe I descend from the > Scottish lowland Presbyterians from around Glasgow that where salt makers. > These lowlanders had been fighting the English for a long time ( William > Wallace etc) I remember looking at my husband a year or so ago and saying...hey...the Youngers are lowlanders that made salt. I have that information somehwere. Brownie **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025)

In a message dated 12/29/2008 1:08:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, Mark.Younger@hilton.com writes: unearth the Younger dead sea scrolls in a old moonshiners cave.... Oh, wow! That'd be fun! Brownie **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025)

Understand ..... hopefully others over time will submit and help put the puzzle together or we will unearth the Younger dead sea scrolls in a old moonshiners cave.... Mark Younger CFM Director Facilities Administration Hilton Hotels Corporation Memphis Operations/Data Center 755 Crossover Lane Memphis ,TN 38117 Tel: 901 374-5458 Fax :901 374-5458 "Necessity is the Mother of Invention"  -----Original Message----- From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of L S Y Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 1:03 PM To: younger@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records I think I understand ... I can definately see your frustration. My great-grandfather (on my mother's side) appears to have materialized in Nebraska in 1930 and mde up his whole history before then. Unfortunately, to be honest, it's $100 I just don't have. Between my daughters and tuition, my genealogy budget is nearly non-existant these days. - Stephen On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 7:01 AM, Mark Younger <Mark.Younger@hilton.com>wrote: > Back in the saddle after Holiday- Stephen don't you want to know "Who's > your Daddy?" ..Seriously , the only reason I am pushing DNA testing is that > I have exhausted( over 10 years) all other sources - censuses and internet > data bases etc. I have only been able , as I stated before , to confirm, to > my satisfaction, my line to 1850 Carroll County District 5 Tennessee. It > appears that everyone else wants to trace back to the infamous and multiple > Alexander's. But my researcher , that wants to remain unnamed, has found two > possible early(1600's) Scottish sources for the Younger's in America - the > English Gentry( land owners) line( Tory- Anglican) that where tobacco > farmers and the indentured(slaves)lowland Scottish Presbyterians prisoners > that were forced out of the British isles during the religious wars and > purges( refused to take the oath to the King and his state religion). They > either where shipped to Bermuda or the southern colonies(Virginia, NC,SC, > Georgia) to work as slaves on the English plantations. Before the African > slaves where used. After the war of 1812 they were given or took land grants > in mainly Kentucky, Tennessee, and Arkansas. We believe I descend from the > Scottish lowland Presbyterians from around Glasgow that where salt makers. > These lowlanders had been fighting the English for a long time ( William > Wallace etc) > > So again, the DNA testing is the only method I see that is left to connect > the dots back any further...... > > You are in my supposed line( Armistead, William , Williamson) that were all > in Carroll County in 1850 - then went back and forth between Tennessee and > the mountains of Arkansas( late 1850's, 1860 and 1870). I am wanting to > determined when the James(male) DNA was introduced - before 1850 or after- > so if you match my DNA it would be before and if we don't match it would be > after..... > > > > Mark Younger CFM > Director Facilities Administration > Hilton Hotels Corporation > Memphis Operations/Data Center > 755 Crossover Lane > Memphis ,TN 38117 > Tel: 901 374-5458 > Fax :901 374-5458 > > "Necessity is the Mother of Invention" > > -----Original Message----- > From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of L S Y > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 10:18 PM > To: younger@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records > > I would like a copy of the paper, though ... > > ... when you're feeling a little better! > > - Stephen > On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 3:33 PM, <restes@comcast.net> wrote: > > > I have a paper about how it works if you are interested that I can send > > to you. > > > > Bobbi Estes (Younger DNA surname project volunteer co-administrator) > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think I understand ... I can definately see your frustration. My great-grandfather (on my mother's side) appears to have materialized in Nebraska in 1930 and mde up his whole history before then. Unfortunately, to be honest, it's $100 I just don't have. Between my daughters and tuition, my genealogy budget is nearly non-existant these days. - Stephen On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 7:01 AM, Mark Younger <Mark.Younger@hilton.com>wrote: > Back in the saddle after Holiday- Stephen don't you want to know "Who's > your Daddy?" ..Seriously , the only reason I am pushing DNA testing is that > I have exhausted( over 10 years) all other sources - censuses and internet > data bases etc. I have only been able , as I stated before , to confirm, to > my satisfaction, my line to 1850 Carroll County District 5 Tennessee. It > appears that everyone else wants to trace back to the infamous and multiple > Alexander's. But my researcher , that wants to remain unnamed, has found two > possible early(1600's) Scottish sources for the Younger's in America - the > English Gentry( land owners) line( Tory- Anglican) that where tobacco > farmers and the indentured(slaves)lowland Scottish Presbyterians prisoners > that were forced out of the British isles during the religious wars and > purges( refused to take the oath to the King and his state religion). They > either where shipped to Bermuda or the southern colonies(Virginia, NC,SC, > Georgia) to work as slaves on the English plantations. Before the African > slaves where used. After the war of 1812 they were given or took land grants > in mainly Kentucky, Tennessee, and Arkansas. We believe I descend from the > Scottish lowland Presbyterians from around Glasgow that where salt makers. > These lowlanders had been fighting the English for a long time ( William > Wallace etc) > > So again, the DNA testing is the only method I see that is left to connect > the dots back any further...... > > You are in my supposed line( Armistead, William , Williamson) that were all > in Carroll County in 1850 - then went back and forth between Tennessee and > the mountains of Arkansas( late 1850's, 1860 and 1870). I am wanting to > determined when the James(male) DNA was introduced - before 1850 or after- > so if you match my DNA it would be before and if we don't match it would be > after..... > > > > Mark Younger CFM > Director Facilities Administration > Hilton Hotels Corporation > Memphis Operations/Data Center > 755 Crossover Lane > Memphis ,TN 38117 > Tel: 901 374-5458 > Fax :901 374-5458 > > "Necessity is the Mother of Invention" > > -----Original Message----- > From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of L S Y > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 10:18 PM > To: younger@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records > > I would like a copy of the paper, though ... > > ... when you're feeling a little better! > > - Stephen > On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 3:33 PM, <restes@comcast.net> wrote: > > > I have a paper about how it works if you are interested that I can send > > to you. > > > > Bobbi Estes (Younger DNA surname project volunteer co-administrator) > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Back in the saddle after Holiday- Stephen don't you want to know "Who's your Daddy?" ..Seriously , the only reason I am pushing DNA testing is that I have exhausted( over 10 years) all other sources - censuses and internet data bases etc. I have only been able , as I stated before , to confirm, to my satisfaction, my line to 1850 Carroll County District 5 Tennessee. It appears that everyone else wants to trace back to the infamous and multiple Alexander's. But my researcher , that wants to remain unnamed, has found two possible early(1600's) Scottish sources for the Younger's in America - the English Gentry( land owners) line( Tory- Anglican) that where tobacco farmers and the indentured(slaves)lowland Scottish Presbyterians prisoners that were forced out of the British isles during the religious wars and purges( refused to take the oath to the King and his state religion). They either where shipped to Bermuda or the southern colonies(Virginia, NC,SC, Georgia) to work as sla! ves on the English plantations. Before the African slaves where used. After the war of 1812 they were given or took land grants in mainly Kentucky, Tennessee, and Arkansas. We believe I descend from the Scottish lowland Presbyterians from around Glasgow that where salt makers. These lowlanders had been fighting the English for a long time ( William Wallace etc) So again, the DNA testing is the only method I see that is left to connect the dots back any further...... You are in my supposed line( Armistead, William , Williamson) that were all in Carroll County in 1850 - then went back and forth between Tennessee and the mountains of Arkansas( late 1850's, 1860 and 1870). I am wanting to determined when the James(male) DNA was introduced - before 1850 or after- so if you match my DNA it would be before and if we don't match it would be after..... Mark Younger CFM Director Facilities Administration Hilton Hotels Corporation Memphis Operations/Data Center 755 Crossover Lane Memphis ,TN 38117 Tel: 901 374-5458 Fax :901 374-5458 "Necessity is the Mother of Invention"  -----Original Message----- From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of L S Y Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 10:18 PM To: younger@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records I would like a copy of the paper, though ... ... when you're feeling a little better! - Stephen On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 3:33 PM, <restes@comcast.net> wrote: > I have a paper about how it works if you are interested that I can send > to you. > > Bobbi Estes (Younger DNA surname project volunteer co-administrator) > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would like a copy of the paper, though ... ... when you're feeling a little better! - Stephen On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 3:33 PM, <restes@comcast.net> wrote: > I have a paper about how it works if you are interested that I can send > to you. > > Bobbi Estes (Younger DNA surname project volunteer co-administrator) > > >

Hi. I would like to have a copy of the paper also. I have not done a lot on the Younger line as yet but it could help me with another line I am presently working on. Thanks Sue -----Original Message----- From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Wilma C. Hillman Sent: December 28, 2008 12:09 PM To: younger@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records Bobbi, if you are recuperated enough, will you send me a copy as well. I'd like to understand it better. Willie ----- Original Message ----- From: <restes@comcast.net> To: <younger@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records > Just so you know, testing begins for right around a hundred dollars and > can provide you with a huge amount of info. In particular, it will > confirm that you are working on the right line or tell you if you should > stop. I have a paper about how it works if you are interested that I can > send to you. > > Bobbi Estes (Younger DNA surname project volunteer co-administrator) > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "L S Y" <lsy.genealogy@gmail.com> > >> I'm certainly not opposed to the idea getting tested - but like I said, >> it's >> just not an expense I can justify yet. >> >> Too many other unanswered questions. >> >> - Stephen >> >> On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 6:44 AM, Mark Younger wrote: >> >> > Stephen , any chance you have a DNA test done? That would confirm my >> > connection or not to Armistead(Rutha Francis) and William(James >> > Samuel)...... >> > >> > Mark Younger CFM >> > Director Facilities Administration >> > Hilton Hotels Corporation >> > Memphis Operations/Data Center >> > 755 Crossover Lane >> > Memphis ,TN 38117 >> > Tel: 901 374-5458 >> > Fax :901 374-5458 >> > >> > "Necessity is the Mother of Invention" >> > >> > >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bobbi, if you are recuperated enough, will you send me a copy as well. I'd like to understand it better. Willie ----- Original Message ----- From: <restes@comcast.net> To: <younger@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records > Just so you know, testing begins for right around a hundred dollars and > can provide you with a huge amount of info. In particular, it will > confirm that you are working on the right line or tell you if you should > stop. I have a paper about how it works if you are interested that I can > send to you. > > Bobbi Estes (Younger DNA surname project volunteer co-administrator) > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "L S Y" <lsy.genealogy@gmail.com> > >> I'm certainly not opposed to the idea getting tested - but like I said, >> it's >> just not an expense I can justify yet. >> >> Too many other unanswered questions. >> >> - Stephen >> >> On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 6:44 AM, Mark Younger wrote: >> >> > Stephen , any chance you have a DNA test done? That would confirm my >> > connection or not to Armistead(Rutha Francis) and William(James >> > Samuel)...... >> > >> > Mark Younger CFM >> > Director Facilities Administration >> > Hilton Hotels Corporation >> > Memphis Operations/Data Center >> > 755 Crossover Lane >> > Memphis ,TN 38117 >> > Tel: 901 374-5458 >> > Fax :901 374-5458 >> > >> > "Necessity is the Mother of Invention" >> > >> > >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just so you know, testing begins for right around a hundred dollars and can provide you with a huge amount of info. In particular, it will confirm that you are working on the right line or tell you if you should stop. I have a paper about how it works if you are interested that I can send to you. Bobbi Estes (Younger DNA surname project volunteer co-administrator) -------------- Original message -------------- From: "L S Y" <lsy.genealogy@gmail.com> > I'm certainly not opposed to the idea getting tested - but like I said, it's > just not an expense I can justify yet. > > Too many other unanswered questions. > > - Stephen > > On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 6:44 AM, Mark Younger wrote: > > > Stephen , any chance you have a DNA test done? That would confirm my > > connection or not to Armistead(Rutha Francis) and William(James > > Samuel)...... > > > > Mark Younger CFM > > Director Facilities Administration > > Hilton Hotels Corporation > > Memphis Operations/Data Center > > 755 Crossover Lane > > Memphis ,TN 38117 > > Tel: 901 374-5458 > > Fax :901 374-5458 > > > > "Necessity is the Mother of Invention" > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

I'm not questioning the usefulness of a DNA test; I meant to say that there are too many unanswered questions for me ELSEWHERE in my family tree to worry about confirming that I'm researching the right Younger line right now. - Stephen On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 4:33 PM, <restes@comcast.net> wrote: > Just so you know, testing begins for right around a hundred dollars and can > provide you with a huge amount of info. In particular, it will confirm that > you are working on the right line or tell you if you should stop. I have a > paper about how it works if you are interested that I can send to you. > > Bobbi Estes (Younger DNA surname project volunteer co-administrator) > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "L S Y" <lsy.genealogy@gmail.com> > > > I'm certainly not opposed to the idea getting tested - but like I said, > it's > > just not an expense I can justify yet. > > > > Too many other unanswered questions. > > > > - Stephen > > > > On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 6:44 AM, Mark Younger wrote: > > > > > Stephen , any chance you have a DNA test done? That would confirm my > > > connection or not to Armistead(Rutha Francis) and William(James > > > Samuel)...... >

Another researcher directed me to a speech given by John P. Alcock, the president of Friends of the Virginia State Archives, in 1999 titled "What Genealogists Should Know About 18th Century Virginia Law." The text of the speech can be found here: http://home.hiwaay.net/~woliver/Virginia_Law.html<http://home.hiwaay.net/%7Ewoliver/Virginia_Law.html>and makes for a pretty interesting read. In the speech, the author summarizes several points of Virginia law, among which: in 18th-Century Virginia a man needed to be be 21 to marry or to sign a bond - and signing a bond was necessary to act as guardian. I've had a marriage date of "c1700" for Alexander Younger and Rebecca Mills. Assuming that Mr. Alcock is correct, and based on our knowledge of Alexander's birthdate (1681), that would put his marriage date about 1702 at the earliest. Do we have anything documenting the 1700 date? This also means that, based on the date Thomas was granted guardianship of his siblings (1732), the latest he could have been born was 1711. I have two possible scenarios for Thomas' minimum birth year; both based on Alexander's estate: 1) Alexander's will names Rebecca and Thomas as executors. Thomas didn't serve - if that was because he wasn't old enough in 1727, then the earliest he could have been born was 1706. 2) Alexander's will also states that "it is my will that the boys should be for themselves at the age of seventeen years old." If we assume that he was referring to all three of his boys (Thomas, John and James) then, based on the date Alexander's will was written (1725), Thomas had to be born after 1708. Some of you have been working on this for a while ... what do you think?

I'm certainly not opposed to the idea getting tested - but like I said, it's just not an expense I can justify yet. Too many other unanswered questions. - Stephen On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 6:44 AM, Mark Younger <Mark.Younger@hilton.com>wrote: > Stephen , any chance you have a DNA test done? That would confirm my > connection or not to Armistead(Rutha Francis) and William(James > Samuel)...... > > Mark Younger CFM > Director Facilities Administration > Hilton Hotels Corporation > Memphis Operations/Data Center > 755 Crossover Lane > Memphis ,TN 38117 > Tel: 901 374-5458 > Fax :901 374-5458 > > "Necessity is the Mother of Invention" > >

Stephen , any chance you have a DNA test done? That would confirm my connection or not to Armistead(Rutha Francis) and William(James Samuel)...... Mark Younger CFM Director Facilities Administration Hilton Hotels Corporation Memphis Operations/Data Center 755 Crossover Lane Memphis ,TN 38117 Tel: 901 374-5458 Fax :901 374-5458 "Necessity is the Mother of Invention"  -----Original Message----- From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of L S Y Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 8:45 PM To: younger@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records If you're referring to the first descendancy I sent, I was simply tracing the lines from Alexander to the current DNA project participants; the second was my direct (patriarchal) line to Alexander - so yes, in both cases there are lines missing (many of them). - Stephen On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 4:33 PM, <Mbmackie1231@aol.com> wrote: > I don't follow what you sent us at all....too many missing links. Were > you > trying to get them all in, are were you just doing your direct lines? > Because you're missing James Williamson, Williamson, Jr. and several > others; > Jesse, John Henry, etc. > > > Brownie > **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, > Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. > ( > http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025 > ) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes - get well soon - Don't worry I will not be asking DNA questions:) Mark Younger CFM Director Facilities Administration Hilton Hotels Corporation Memphis Operations/Data Center 755 Crossover Lane Memphis ,TN 38117 Tel: 901 374-5458 Fax :901 374-5458 "Necessity is the Mother of Invention"  -----Original Message----- From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Wilma (Younger) Norton Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 6:26 PM To: ginger40220; younger@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Get Well Wishes Let me add my Get Well Soon and wishing you a speedy recovery. Wilma ----- Original Message ----- From: "ginger40220" <ginger40220@peoplepc.com> To: <younger@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records > Sending you my very warmest regards, and eager to see you well very soon. > Judy Younger Hofstetter > > -----Original Message----- >>From: "Roberta J. Estes" <restes@comcast.net> >>Sent: Dec 22, 2008 11:42 PM >>To: younger@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records >> >>Just so you folks know, since this is going in the direction of DNA, I'm >>going in for surgery on the 24th and I'm trying to get a great many things >>done between now and then, so in a nutshell, I'm not following these >>posts. >>So if you're thinking I'm paying attention right now, I'm not and I'm not >>going to be for awhile:) If you have a specific question for me after >>your >>discussions, ask me directly and I'll answer as soon as I can after the >>surgery. Sorry. >> >>Bobbi >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] >>On >>Behalf Of L S Y >>Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:34 PM >>To: younger@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records >> >>I was worried I might have to clarify that post a little. >> >>The descendancy I listed is for the current DNA participants, not for me. >> >>Mine looks like this: >>1.Alexander Younger (b.1681) >>-2.Thomas Younger (b.1707) >>--3.William Younger (b.1744) >>---4.Williamson Younger (b.1782) >>----5.Armistead Younger (b.1811) >>-----6.Robert Albert Younger (b.1853) >>------7.Charles Edward Younger (b.1881) >>-------8.Richard Younger (b.1813) >>--------9.My Father >>---------10.Me >> >>I am descended from James Samuel (through his son, Wilson Leonard), but >>the >>link is my great-grandmother, Rutha Viola, so the DNA chain is broken for >>me >>in that direction. >> >>- Stephen >> >>On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Mark Younger >><Mark.Younger@hilton.com>wrote: >> >>> Your James Samuel was my John W brother so we should match - both sons >>> of William and Pricilla ... So you have not had your DNA tested? You and >>Bob? >>> >>> Mark Younger CFM >>> Director Facilities Administration >>> Hilton Hotels Corporation >>> Memphis Operations/Data Center >>> 755 Crossover Lane >>> Memphis ,TN 38117 >>> Tel: 901 374-5458 >>> Fax :901 374-5458 >>> >>> "Necessity is the Mother of Invention" >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] >>> On Behalf Of L S Y >>> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:37 PM >>> To: younger@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records >>> >>> "The DNA from the Armistead line is flawed." >>> My wife's family would probably agree with you there (I write this >>> while sitting on my Father-In-Law's couch). That aside though, I >>> didn't know there were any participants from Armistead's line yet. >>> Bob and I are the only list members that I am aware of that are direct >>> male descendants of >>> Armistead: both of us through sons of his son, Robert Albert. I keep >>> toying with the idea, but I just can't justify the expense (especially >>> now that the question of Thomas' relationship to Alexander has been >>> adequately proven). >>> >>> Below is the descendancy from Alexander as I extrapolated it from the >>> FTDNA >>> site: >>> 1.Alexander Younger (b.1681) >>> -2.Thomas Younger (b.1707) >>> --3.William Younger (b.1744) >>> ---4.Williamson Younger (b.1782) >>> ----5.William Younger (b.1803) >>> -----6.James Samuel Younger (b.1831) >>> ------7.James Henry Younger (b.1866) >>> -------8.William Stanley Younger (b.1895) --------9.Participant #92740 >>> DNA:14,24,14,08,11,13,12,12,12,14,13,30 >>> ---4.Thomas Younger (b.1784) >>> ----5.Josephus Younger (b.1821) >>> -----6.Josephus W. Younger (b.1856) >>> ------7.Stanley E. Younger (b.1896) >>> -------8.Participant's Father >>> --------9.Participant #81432 DNA:14,24,14,08,11,13,12,12,12,14,13,30 >>> -2.James Younger (b.1720) >>> --3.Thomas *James* Younger (b.1761) >>> ---4.Thomas Younger (b.1790) >>> ----5.William Alexander Younger (b.1828) -----6.John Willis Younger >>> (b.1869) ------7.Claude Elmer Elzy Younger (b.1900) >>> -------8.Participant #86386 DNA:14,24,14,08,11,13,12,12,12,14,13,30 >>> ---4.Joseph Younger (b.1803) >>> ----5.William Green Younger (b.1839) >>> -----6.Earle Younger (b.1876) >>> ------7.Merwin Younger (b.1900) >>> -------8.Participant #N32738 DNA:14,24,14,08,11,13,12,12,12,14,13,30 >>> >>> - Stephen >>> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes >>in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ________________________________________ > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks everyone. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2008, at 7:25 PM, "Wilma \(Younger\) Norton" <wilma.norton@cox.net > wrote: > Let me add my Get Well Soon and wishing you a speedy recovery. > > Wilma > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ginger40220" <ginger40220@peoplepc.com> > To: <younger@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 5:22 PM > Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records > > >> Sending you my very warmest regards, and eager to see you well very >> soon. >> Judy Younger Hofstetter >> >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: "Roberta J. Estes" <restes@comcast.net> >>> Sent: Dec 22, 2008 11:42 PM >>> To: younger@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records >>> >>> Just so you folks know, since this is going in the direction of >>> DNA, I'm >>> going in for surgery on the 24th and I'm trying to get a great >>> many things >>> done between now and then, so in a nutshell, I'm not following these >>> posts. >>> So if you're thinking I'm paying attention right now, I'm not and >>> I'm not >>> going to be for awhile:) If you have a specific question for me >>> after >>> your >>> discussions, ask me directly and I'll answer as soon as I can >>> after the >>> surgery. Sorry. >>> >>> Bobbi >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> ] >>> On >>> Behalf Of L S Y >>> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:34 PM >>> To: younger@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records >>> >>> I was worried I might have to clarify that post a little. >>> >>> The descendancy I listed is for the current DNA participants, not >>> for me. >>> >>> Mine looks like this: >>> 1.Alexander Younger (b.1681) >>> -2.Thomas Younger (b.1707) >>> --3.William Younger (b.1744) >>> ---4.Williamson Younger (b.1782) >>> ----5.Armistead Younger (b.1811) >>> -----6.Robert Albert Younger (b.1853) >>> ------7.Charles Edward Younger (b.1881) >>> -------8.Richard Younger (b.1813) >>> --------9.My Father >>> ---------10.Me >>> >>> I am descended from James Samuel (through his son, Wilson >>> Leonard), but >>> the >>> link is my great-grandmother, Rutha Viola, so the DNA chain is >>> broken for >>> me >>> in that direction. >>> >>> - Stephen >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Mark Younger >>> <Mark.Younger@hilton.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Your James Samuel was my John W brother so we should match - both >>>> sons >>>> of William and Pricilla ... So you have not had your DNA tested? >>>> You and >>> Bob? >>>> >>>> Mark Younger CFM >>>> Director Facilities Administration >>>> Hilton Hotels Corporation >>>> Memphis Operations/Data Center >>>> 755 Crossover Lane >>>> Memphis ,TN 38117 >>>> Tel: 901 374-5458 >>>> Fax :901 374-5458 >>>> >>>> "Necessity is the Mother of Invention" >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com >>>> [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] >>>> On Behalf Of L S Y >>>> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:37 PM >>>> To: younger@rootsweb.com >>>> Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records >>>> >>>> "The DNA from the Armistead line is flawed." >>>> My wife's family would probably agree with you there (I write this >>>> while sitting on my Father-In-Law's couch). That aside though, I >>>> didn't know there were any participants from Armistead's line yet. >>>> Bob and I are the only list members that I am aware of that are >>>> direct >>>> male descendants of >>>> Armistead: both of us through sons of his son, Robert Albert. I >>>> keep >>>> toying with the idea, but I just can't justify the expense >>>> (especially >>>> now that the question of Thomas' relationship to Alexander has been >>>> adequately proven). >>>> >>>> Below is the descendancy from Alexander as I extrapolated it from >>>> the >>>> FTDNA >>>> site: >>>> 1.Alexander Younger (b.1681) >>>> -2.Thomas Younger (b.1707) >>>> --3.William Younger (b.1744) >>>> ---4.Williamson Younger (b.1782) >>>> ----5.William Younger (b.1803) >>>> -----6.James Samuel Younger (b.1831) >>>> ------7.James Henry Younger (b.1866) >>>> -------8.William Stanley Younger (b.1895) --------9.Participant >>>> #92740 >>>> DNA:14,24,14,08,11,13,12,12,12,14,13,30 >>>> ---4.Thomas Younger (b.1784) >>>> ----5.Josephus Younger (b.1821) >>>> -----6.Josephus W. Younger (b.1856) >>>> ------7.Stanley E. Younger (b.1896) >>>> -------8.Participant's Father >>>> --------9.Participant #81432 DNA: >>>> 14,24,14,08,11,13,12,12,12,14,13,30 >>>> -2.James Younger (b.1720) >>>> --3.Thomas *James* Younger (b.1761) >>>> ---4.Thomas Younger (b.1790) >>>> ----5.William Alexander Younger (b.1828) -----6.John Willis Younger >>>> (b.1869) ------7.Claude Elmer Elzy Younger (b.1900) >>>> -------8.Participant #86386 DNA:14,24,14,08,11,13,12,12,12,14,13,30 >>>> ---4.Joseph Younger (b.1803) >>>> ----5.William Green Younger (b.1839) >>>> -----6.Earle Younger (b.1876) >>>> ------7.Merwin Younger (b.1900) >>>> -------8.Participant #N32738 DNA: >>>> 14,24,14,08,11,13,12,12,12,14,13,30 >>>> >>>> - Stephen >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ________________________________________ >> PeoplePC Online >> A better way to Internet >> http://www.peoplepc.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

I don't follow what you sent us at all....too many missing links. Were you trying to get them all in, are were you just doing your direct lines? Because you're missing James Williamson, Williamson, Jr. and several others; Jesse, John Henry, etc. Brownie **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025)

Let me add my Get Well Soon and wishing you a speedy recovery. Wilma ----- Original Message ----- From: "ginger40220" <ginger40220@peoplepc.com> To: <younger@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records > Sending you my very warmest regards, and eager to see you well very soon. > Judy Younger Hofstetter > > -----Original Message----- >>From: "Roberta J. Estes" <restes@comcast.net> >>Sent: Dec 22, 2008 11:42 PM >>To: younger@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records >> >>Just so you folks know, since this is going in the direction of DNA, I'm >>going in for surgery on the 24th and I'm trying to get a great many things >>done between now and then, so in a nutshell, I'm not following these >>posts. >>So if you're thinking I'm paying attention right now, I'm not and I'm not >>going to be for awhile:) If you have a specific question for me after >>your >>discussions, ask me directly and I'll answer as soon as I can after the >>surgery. Sorry. >> >>Bobbi >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] >>On >>Behalf Of L S Y >>Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:34 PM >>To: younger@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records >> >>I was worried I might have to clarify that post a little. >> >>The descendancy I listed is for the current DNA participants, not for me. >> >>Mine looks like this: >>1.Alexander Younger (b.1681) >>-2.Thomas Younger (b.1707) >>--3.William Younger (b.1744) >>---4.Williamson Younger (b.1782) >>----5.Armistead Younger (b.1811) >>-----6.Robert Albert Younger (b.1853) >>------7.Charles Edward Younger (b.1881) >>-------8.Richard Younger (b.1813) >>--------9.My Father >>---------10.Me >> >>I am descended from James Samuel (through his son, Wilson Leonard), but >>the >>link is my great-grandmother, Rutha Viola, so the DNA chain is broken for >>me >>in that direction. >> >>- Stephen >> >>On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Mark Younger >><Mark.Younger@hilton.com>wrote: >> >>> Your James Samuel was my John W brother so we should match - both sons >>> of William and Pricilla ... So you have not had your DNA tested? You and >>Bob? >>> >>> Mark Younger CFM >>> Director Facilities Administration >>> Hilton Hotels Corporation >>> Memphis Operations/Data Center >>> 755 Crossover Lane >>> Memphis ,TN 38117 >>> Tel: 901 374-5458 >>> Fax :901 374-5458 >>> >>> "Necessity is the Mother of Invention" >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] >>> On Behalf Of L S Y >>> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:37 PM >>> To: younger@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records >>> >>> "The DNA from the Armistead line is flawed." >>> My wife's family would probably agree with you there (I write this >>> while sitting on my Father-In-Law's couch). That aside though, I >>> didn't know there were any participants from Armistead's line yet. >>> Bob and I are the only list members that I am aware of that are direct >>> male descendants of >>> Armistead: both of us through sons of his son, Robert Albert. I keep >>> toying with the idea, but I just can't justify the expense (especially >>> now that the question of Thomas' relationship to Alexander has been >>> adequately proven). >>> >>> Below is the descendancy from Alexander as I extrapolated it from the >>> FTDNA >>> site: >>> 1.Alexander Younger (b.1681) >>> -2.Thomas Younger (b.1707) >>> --3.William Younger (b.1744) >>> ---4.Williamson Younger (b.1782) >>> ----5.William Younger (b.1803) >>> -----6.James Samuel Younger (b.1831) >>> ------7.James Henry Younger (b.1866) >>> -------8.William Stanley Younger (b.1895) --------9.Participant #92740 >>> DNA:14,24,14,08,11,13,12,12,12,14,13,30 >>> ---4.Thomas Younger (b.1784) >>> ----5.Josephus Younger (b.1821) >>> -----6.Josephus W. Younger (b.1856) >>> ------7.Stanley E. Younger (b.1896) >>> -------8.Participant's Father >>> --------9.Participant #81432 DNA:14,24,14,08,11,13,12,12,12,14,13,30 >>> -2.James Younger (b.1720) >>> --3.Thomas *James* Younger (b.1761) >>> ---4.Thomas Younger (b.1790) >>> ----5.William Alexander Younger (b.1828) -----6.John Willis Younger >>> (b.1869) ------7.Claude Elmer Elzy Younger (b.1900) >>> -------8.Participant #86386 DNA:14,24,14,08,11,13,12,12,12,14,13,30 >>> ---4.Joseph Younger (b.1803) >>> ----5.William Green Younger (b.1839) >>> -----6.Earle Younger (b.1876) >>> ------7.Merwin Younger (b.1900) >>> -------8.Participant #N32738 DNA:14,24,14,08,11,13,12,12,12,14,13,30 >>> >>> - Stephen >>> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes >>in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ________________________________________ > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sending you my very warmest regards, and eager to see you well very soon. Judy Younger Hofstetter -----Original Message----- >From: "Roberta J. Estes" <restes@comcast.net> >Sent: Dec 22, 2008 11:42 PM >To: younger@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records > >Just so you folks know, since this is going in the direction of DNA, I'm >going in for surgery on the 24th and I'm trying to get a great many things >done between now and then, so in a nutshell, I'm not following these posts. >So if you're thinking I'm paying attention right now, I'm not and I'm not >going to be for awhile:) If you have a specific question for me after your >discussions, ask me directly and I'll answer as soon as I can after the >surgery. Sorry. > >Bobbi > >-----Original Message----- >From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >Behalf Of L S Y >Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:34 PM >To: younger@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records > >I was worried I might have to clarify that post a little. > >The descendancy I listed is for the current DNA participants, not for me. > >Mine looks like this: >1.Alexander Younger (b.1681) >-2.Thomas Younger (b.1707) >--3.William Younger (b.1744) >---4.Williamson Younger (b.1782) >----5.Armistead Younger (b.1811) >-----6.Robert Albert Younger (b.1853) >------7.Charles Edward Younger (b.1881) >-------8.Richard Younger (b.1813) >--------9.My Father >---------10.Me > >I am descended from James Samuel (through his son, Wilson Leonard), but the >link is my great-grandmother, Rutha Viola, so the DNA chain is broken for me >in that direction. > >- Stephen > >On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Mark Younger ><Mark.Younger@hilton.com>wrote: > >> Your James Samuel was my John W brother so we should match - both sons >> of William and Pricilla ... So you have not had your DNA tested? You and >Bob? >> >> Mark Younger CFM >> Director Facilities Administration >> Hilton Hotels Corporation >> Memphis Operations/Data Center >> 755 Crossover Lane >> Memphis ,TN 38117 >> Tel: 901 374-5458 >> Fax :901 374-5458 >> >> "Necessity is the Mother of Invention" >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of L S Y >> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:37 PM >> To: younger@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records >> >> "The DNA from the Armistead line is flawed." >> My wife's family would probably agree with you there (I write this >> while sitting on my Father-In-Law's couch). That aside though, I >> didn't know there were any participants from Armistead's line yet. >> Bob and I are the only list members that I am aware of that are direct >> male descendants of >> Armistead: both of us through sons of his son, Robert Albert. I keep >> toying with the idea, but I just can't justify the expense (especially >> now that the question of Thomas' relationship to Alexander has been >> adequately proven). >> >> Below is the descendancy from Alexander as I extrapolated it from the >> FTDNA >> site: >> 1.Alexander Younger (b.1681) >> -2.Thomas Younger (b.1707) >> --3.William Younger (b.1744) >> ---4.Williamson Younger (b.1782) >> ----5.William Younger (b.1803) >> -----6.James Samuel Younger (b.1831) >> ------7.James Henry Younger (b.1866) >> -------8.William Stanley Younger (b.1895) --------9.Participant #92740 >> DNA:14,24,14,08,11,13,12,12,12,14,13,30 >> ---4.Thomas Younger (b.1784) >> ----5.Josephus Younger (b.1821) >> -----6.Josephus W. Younger (b.1856) >> ------7.Stanley E. Younger (b.1896) >> -------8.Participant's Father >> --------9.Participant #81432 DNA:14,24,14,08,11,13,12,12,12,14,13,30 >> -2.James Younger (b.1720) >> --3.Thomas *James* Younger (b.1761) >> ---4.Thomas Younger (b.1790) >> ----5.William Alexander Younger (b.1828) -----6.John Willis Younger >> (b.1869) ------7.Claude Elmer Elzy Younger (b.1900) >> -------8.Participant #86386 DNA:14,24,14,08,11,13,12,12,12,14,13,30 >> ---4.Joseph Younger (b.1803) >> ----5.William Green Younger (b.1839) >> -----6.Earle Younger (b.1876) >> ------7.Merwin Younger (b.1900) >> -------8.Participant #N32738 DNA:14,24,14,08,11,13,12,12,12,14,13,30 >> >> - Stephen >> > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

If you're referring to the first descendancy I sent, I was simply tracing the lines from Alexander to the current DNA project participants; the second was my direct (patriarchal) line to Alexander - so yes, in both cases there are lines missing (many of them). - Stephen On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 4:33 PM, <Mbmackie1231@aol.com> wrote: > I don't follow what you sent us at all....too many missing links. Were > you > trying to get them all in, are were you just doing your direct lines? > Because you're missing James Williamson, Williamson, Jr. and several > others; > Jesse, John Henry, etc. > > > Brownie > **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, > Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. > ( > http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025 > ) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >