-----Original Message----- From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Wilma C. Hillman Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 11:09 AM To: younger@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records Bobbi, if you are recuperated enough, will you send me a copy as well. I'd like to understand it better. Willie ----- Original Message ----- From: <restes@comcast.net> To: <younger@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records > Just so you know, testing begins for right around a hundred dollars and > can provide you with a huge amount of info. In particular, it will > confirm that you are working on the right line or tell you if you should > stop. I have a paper about how it works if you are interested that I can > send to you. > > Bobbi Estes (Younger DNA surname project volunteer co-administrator) > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "L S Y" <lsy.genealogy@gmail.com> > >> I'm certainly not opposed to the idea getting tested - but like I said, >> it's >> just not an expense I can justify yet. >> >> Too many other unanswered questions. >> >> - Stephen >> >> On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 6:44 AM, Mark Younger wrote: >> >> > Stephen , any chance you have a DNA test done? That would confirm my >> > connection or not to Armistead(Rutha Francis) and William(James >> > Samuel)...... >> > >> > Mark Younger CFM >> > Director Facilities Administration >> > Hilton Hotels Corporation >> > Memphis Operations/Data Center >> > 755 Crossover Lane >> > Memphis ,TN 38117 >> > Tel: 901 374-5458 >> > Fax :901 374-5458 >> > >> > "Necessity is the Mother of Invention" >> > >> > >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sue, Sorry it took me so long to get this to you. Bobbi -----Original Message----- From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 3:48 PM To: younger@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records Hi. I would like to have a copy of the paper also. I have not done a lot on the Younger line as yet but it could help me with another line I am presently working on. Thanks Sue -----Original Message----- From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Wilma C. Hillman Sent: December 28, 2008 12:09 PM To: younger@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records Bobbi, if you are recuperated enough, will you send me a copy as well. I'd like to understand it better. Willie ----- Original Message ----- From: <restes@comcast.net> To: <younger@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records > Just so you know, testing begins for right around a hundred dollars and > can provide you with a huge amount of info. In particular, it will > confirm that you are working on the right line or tell you if you should > stop. I have a paper about how it works if you are interested that I can > send to you. > > Bobbi Estes (Younger DNA surname project volunteer co-administrator) > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "L S Y" <lsy.genealogy@gmail.com> > >> I'm certainly not opposed to the idea getting tested - but like I said, >> it's >> just not an expense I can justify yet. >> >> Too many other unanswered questions. >> >> - Stephen >> >> On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 6:44 AM, Mark Younger wrote: >> >> > Stephen , any chance you have a DNA test done? That would confirm my >> > connection or not to Armistead(Rutha Francis) and William(James >> > Samuel)...... >> > >> > Mark Younger CFM >> > Director Facilities Administration >> > Hilton Hotels Corporation >> > Memphis Operations/Data Center >> > 755 Crossover Lane >> > Memphis ,TN 38117 >> > Tel: 901 374-5458 >> > Fax :901 374-5458 >> > >> > "Necessity is the Mother of Invention" >> > >> > >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear All: Wilma Hillman's research corroborates my own. There is no Elizabeth Lee or for that matter Lizzie Lee. Brownie MacKie **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

I'm only two years late in answerng this e-mail but I have some comments that might be helpful. Number one on my list is to correct an assumption that has no basis in fact. As to Elizabeth Lee - there is no Elizabeth Lee. This is how it happened. When Cole was in prison he wrote a letter to the Governor of Missouri who was an old aquaintance. Of course he was putting himself in his best possible light hoping to influence the governor to help his situation. He told him he was eligible to be a member of the Sons of the American Revolution and, in fact, his grandmother was a member of the Lee family. (He didn't say what Lee family and there are many beside the prominent ones) First of all, She was not his grandmother. Catherine Yeager was his grandmother. Since he did not mention a first name, one was invented for her and the name "Lizzy" began to surface. In due time, eager genealogists gave her more dignity and began calling her Elizabeth Lee. Now I do have my eye on a family of Lees in KY who seem to be closely connected with Henry and Ruth Younger. I'm not sure who they are or what their connection is, if any. I have never studied them close enough since I spent more time on the Youngers which I knew were connected to my personal interests. It's on my "to-do" list when I find the time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy" <judy.foley@cmcss.net> To: <younger@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 10:04 PM Subject: [YOUNGER] St. Mary's County Lees > Pat Finnell, Are these or do you know if these Prices are related to > yours. Go to:www.geocities.com/heartland/7590/index.html. The page is > Passengers In Time. Scroll down to Lee-more Lee Records-Littleberry. On > the next page under Baltimore County Chancery records they discuss some > Prices and some McCaslins along with Lees. I'm not sure if the Lee's in > St. Mary's County that they are discussing I guess are supposedly related > to/or they are trying to find common ancestors to the ones in St. Mary's > County, MD. But further down they discuss the Lee's in Orange County, IN > where Joshua Younger lived with his supposed wife Lizzie Lee? Of interest, > is the list of Lee's, two marrying Leatherman's, which Joshua Youngers > descendants married into in and around Orange County, IN and two married > Teagardens of whom are related to Mary Agatha Dearing Younger. If you saw > the Robert Montigue letter I posted, he discussed the fact that the Lee's > married into the Montigue family (Mary Agath! > a Younger is a descendant)on several occasions. I'm wondering if this St. > Mary's County Lees could possibly be related to the supposed Lizzie Lee? > Sounds to me like both Younger lines are related to Lees? > > ________________________________ > > From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of PatriciaFinnell@aol.com > Sent: Sun 11/26/2006 8:03 PM > To: YOUNGER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [YOUNGER] Who is Bradley? > > > > I have a copy of a letter written in 1985 from a person in Manitoba to a > Mrs. Hankins. It says: > > "Bradley the librarian was working on the Scots ancestry of Alexander > Younger at the time he disappeared. In Alexander's will a reference is > made to "my > next heir in Scotland, my brother Andrew." Apparently, the person who > copied the material for the paper Bradley wrote and deposited in Salt > Lake City > did not include this reference. Bradley told me that the material was > nearly > complete and that was the reason I tried to contact him when I was there > afterwards." > > The primary topic in this letter is the Ann (Younger) Price family and > descendants. Has anyone seen or does anyone know anything about this > Younger > paper deposited in Salt Lake City? I did not find it listed in FHC > catalogue > (nor in the Pedigree Resources File or Ancestral File) under Younger and > there > are a slew of Bradley authors. > > Pat Finnell > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It would be nice if there was someone from that line to DNA test. Bobbi -----Original Message----- From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Symonds Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 5:35 PM To: younger@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] John Younger who married Ann Moss in Goochland Co. VA in 1757 Wilma, there was a MOSS family in Cumberland County as reflected in the Vestry Book of Southam Parish which came into being January 1, 1745. The original St James Parish had the same boundary as Goochland County, formed in 1728 from Henrico County. Southam Parish was the part of St James which was on the south side of the James River. In 1749 these residents wanted a separate county, so Cumberland County was formed and included all of Southam Parish and part of King William Parish. The Vestry Book of Southam Parish contains records of parish from 1745 to 1792. The MOSS family in the index includes the earliest listing for William Sr. as well as Alexander, James, John, Thomas, William. There are also WILLIAMSON listings: George (earliest) Jacob, Mary, Richard, Robert. There are WOMACK listings: Abraham,Sr., Abraham Jr, Nathan, Richard, W., and William. Example item: July 27, 1747: Ordered that Alexander MOSS, Abraham WAMACK Junr and John ALEXANDER on the 2d of November begin at Deep Creek Bridge down the Creek to the River up the River to Muddy Creek up the Creek to the Bridge and down the Main Road to the beginning do procession the several Lands and renew and mark the respective lines and make return to the Vestry by the last of March of Every person's Land.... From _Vestry Book of Southam Parish, Cumberland and Powhatan Counties, Virginia 1745-1792_ by Ann K. Blomquist. Westminster, Maryland: Willow Bend Books, 2002. I hope this will be helpful. My Edward HENDERSON of Halifax who married Lydia [MOORE?] came from Cumberland County. There were MOORE families in Cumberland County, but so far I have been unable to connect them to Lydia. Marilyn Wilma (Younger) Norton wrote: > Does anyone know who were the parents of this John? Any help appreciated. > > Wilma > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've only traced them to 1900 so far, if it looks like I will be able to trace them further, will let you know. Wilma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roberta J. Estes" <restes@comcast.net> To: <younger@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] John Younger who married Ann Moss in Goochland Co. VAin 1757 > It would be nice if there was someone from that line to DNA test. > > Bobbi >

At this point, I don't know how much help this will be, however, I appreciate it and will store it away and save for future use. Thanks you. Wilma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Symonds" <sysite@swbell.net> To: <younger@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] John Younger who married Ann Moss in Goochland Co. VA in 1757 > Wilma, there was a MOSS family in Cumberland County as reflected in the > Vestry Book of Southam Parish which came into being January 1, 1745. The > original St James Parish had the same boundary as Goochland County, > formed in 1728 from Henrico County. Southam Parish was the part of St > James which was on the south side of the James River. In 1749 these > residents wanted a separate county, so Cumberland County was formed and > included all of Southam Parish and part of King William Parish. > > The Vestry Book of Southam Parish contains records of parish from 1745 > to 1792. The MOSS family in the index includes the earliest listing for > William Sr. as well as Alexander, James, John, Thomas, William. There > are also WILLIAMSON listings: George (earliest) Jacob, Mary, Richard, > Robert. There are WOMACK listings: Abraham,Sr., Abraham Jr, Nathan, > Richard, W., and William. > > Example item: July 27, 1747: Ordered that Alexander MOSS, Abraham WAMACK > Junr and John ALEXANDER on the 2d of November begin at Deep Creek > Bridge down the Creek to the River up the River to Muddy Creek up the > Creek to the Bridge and down the Main Road to the beginning do > procession the several Lands and renew and mark the respective lines and > make return to the Vestry by the last of March of Every person's Land.... > > From _Vestry Book of Southam Parish, Cumberland and Powhatan Counties, > Virginia 1745-1792_ by Ann K. Blomquist. Westminster, Maryland: Willow > Bend Books, 2002. > > I hope this will be helpful. My Edward HENDERSON of Halifax who married > Lydia [MOORE?] came from Cumberland County. There were MOORE families in > Cumberland County, but so far I have been unable to connect them to Lydia. > > Marilyn > > Wilma (Younger) Norton wrote: >> Does anyone know who were the parents of this John? Any help >> appreciated. >> >> Wilma >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Wilma, there was a MOSS family in Cumberland County as reflected in the Vestry Book of Southam Parish which came into being January 1, 1745. The original St James Parish had the same boundary as Goochland County, formed in 1728 from Henrico County. Southam Parish was the part of St James which was on the south side of the James River. In 1749 these residents wanted a separate county, so Cumberland County was formed and included all of Southam Parish and part of King William Parish. The Vestry Book of Southam Parish contains records of parish from 1745 to 1792. The MOSS family in the index includes the earliest listing for William Sr. as well as Alexander, James, John, Thomas, William. There are also WILLIAMSON listings: George (earliest) Jacob, Mary, Richard, Robert. There are WOMACK listings: Abraham,Sr., Abraham Jr, Nathan, Richard, W., and William. Example item: July 27, 1747: Ordered that Alexander MOSS, Abraham WAMACK Junr and John ALEXANDER on the 2d of November begin at Deep Creek Bridge down the Creek to the River up the River to Muddy Creek up the Creek to the Bridge and down the Main Road to the beginning do procession the several Lands and renew and mark the respective lines and make return to the Vestry by the last of March of Every person's Land.... From _Vestry Book of Southam Parish, Cumberland and Powhatan Counties, Virginia 1745-1792_ by Ann K. Blomquist. Westminster, Maryland: Willow Bend Books, 2002. I hope this will be helpful. My Edward HENDERSON of Halifax who married Lydia [MOORE?] came from Cumberland County. There were MOORE families in Cumberland County, but so far I have been unable to connect them to Lydia. Marilyn Wilma (Younger) Norton wrote: > Does anyone know who were the parents of this John? Any help appreciated. > > Wilma > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The reason I started looking for connections for him, back in 1998, I received some pages from a Dorothy Sanders that connected the Younger's to the Campbell's. In particular, John Younger who married Anna Elizabeth Campbell May 1, 1862 in Madison Co. IL. In tracing that John back up the line, I had him attached with John and Ann Moss with several generations between them of course. Some of the Illinois Younger's moved on down to Missouri. She traces her Campbell's back to Scotland and I thought it would be interesting if I could find an earlier connection. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilma C. Hillman" <whillman@fuse.net> To: <younger@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] John Younger who married Ann Moss in Goochland Co. VAin1757 > Don't I wish I knew! The closest I come to a clue is that Mary who married > Jesse Grubbs received a legacy from Gideon Moss. I've never followed up on > him to see how he connects. Willie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wilma (Younger) Norton" <wilma.norton@cox.net> > To: "YOUNGER" <YOUNGER@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 2:52 PM > Subject: [YOUNGER] John Younger who married Ann Moss in Goochland Co. VA > in1757 > > >> Does anyone know who were the parents of this John? Any help >> appreciated. >> >> Wilma >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Don't I wish I knew! The closest I come to a clue is that Mary who married Jesse Grubbs received a legacy from Gideon Moss. I've never followed up on him to see how he connects. Willie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilma (Younger) Norton" <wilma.norton@cox.net> To: "YOUNGER" <YOUNGER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 2:52 PM Subject: [YOUNGER] John Younger who married Ann Moss in Goochland Co. VA in1757 > Does anyone know who were the parents of this John? Any help appreciated. > > Wilma > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone know who were the parents of this John? Any help appreciated. Wilma

Wow - my intent was not to get everyone shook up about DNA testing - just seeking more answers .... HAPPY NEW YEAR Mark Younger CFM Director Facilities Administration Hilton Hotels Corporation Memphis Operations/Data Center 755 Crossover Lane Memphis ,TN 38117 Tel: 901 374-5458 Fax :901 374-5458 "Necessity is the Mother of Invention"  -----Original Message----- From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mbmackie1231@aol.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 8:58 PM To: judyfoley@peoplepc.com; Younger@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Younger:Source Records Judy....it's a general fund. Unless somebody pays for a specific person, it goes into the general fund. As I said...there's no money left. You are giving people the wrong idea about the project. Please stop. Any money that goes into the scholarship or whatever fund can be used by anybody...not just your "gang" people but also any other Younger. But alas...there's no money left. I frankly do not know who used it nor why nor how nor when. I frankly could care less at this moment! I'm tired and traveled out. But if somebody in this group would like to donate so somebody else can get their DNA test..then please do so. Thank you. Subject closed. Sincerely, Brownie MacKie Younger DNA project Administrator Slightly irritated at the moment **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Judy and all, Right now I'm using webmail without my stuff (my computer is downstairs and I can't do steps yet) and Brownie is traveling, so bear with us. Judy is right that people can donate any amount towards a particular test. You can see the balance of our general fund on our Younger dna page, the link I think is www.familytreedna.com/public/younger. I don't think we have any balance at all at this point as the previous funds were donated for specific tests. I don't have my reference materials with me and someone can correct me if I'm wrong about the link name above. The funds can be donated 'in memory" of someone or anonymously or whatever the donor wants. In this project and others, it's not unusual for folks to contribute to the testing costs for a kit for someone who will mutually benefit others, in fact it's quite common. You can make a contribution using a credit card or paypal by looking at our page and selecting the "donate to general fund" option. You can donate any amount and sometimes people donate $5 or $10, sometimes more. Sometimes the person who will be taking the test pays part too, although that's ! probabl y not a proper topic for the list, who paid how much:) I've had situations where that person later contributed to other tests, so it all comes out in the wash and we learn more about our family. I would suggest beginning with a $99 ($104 total with shipping I think) test since it will tell us which branch of the tree Stephen is in and upgrading can be done later if needed. Bobbi -------------- Original message -------------- From: JudyFoley <judyfoley@peoplepc.com> > Brownie, If Mark puts the money in the fund(earmarked for Larry) then the DNA > test is sent to Larry. Two different "Gang" Younger DNA tests were paid by funds > from other people who contributed to the fund and it was earmarked for this > purpose(the DNA of Joshua and Humphrey). Ask Roberta..The Joshua and Humphrey > Younger DNA was paid for by "gang" Youngers who were interested in getting the > DNA. I called and asked the two persons who were from both lines to donate their > DNA. I did not ask for payment.They did not pay for them. I would not ask > someone to pay for DNA when it was for the benefit of the "gang" line to get > DNA from persons who really didn't even know the Youngers were doing DNA. But > members of our line paid for the tests, which furthered our cause. The John W. > Younger DNA was the first done on the "gang" line and I knew that we needed DNA > from other "gang" line Youngers to compare. So I got busy and called people who > were willing to donate. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > ________________________________________ > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Judy....it's a general fund. Unless somebody pays for a specific person, it goes into the general fund. As I said...there's no money left. You are giving people the wrong idea about the project. Please stop. Any money that goes into the scholarship or whatever fund can be used by anybody...not just your "gang" people but also any other Younger. But alas...there's no money left. I frankly do not know who used it nor why nor how nor when. I frankly could care less at this moment! I'm tired and traveled out. But if somebody in this group would like to donate so somebody else can get their DNA test..then please do so. Thank you. Subject closed. Sincerely, Brownie MacKie Younger DNA project Administrator Slightly irritated at the moment **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025)

Brownie, I truly understand the schlorship fund. Yes, we "gang" Youngers used the money we put in it for our own selfish means. And if Alex Youngers want to put money in it and use it for their own selfish means, please do! We used only what we put in there! As far as I know! -----Original Message----- From: Mbmackie1231@aol.com Sent: Dec 29, 2008 8:16 PM To: judyfoley@peoplepc.com Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Younger:Source Records Judy! That's NOT TRUE! We have nothing in the fund! It's used up! If you'd like to contribute to it, feel free! I guess all you "gang" members used it up. There is simply no money in that fund, so it won't do any good for anybody to call until we get more contributions.l Please understand that. Brownie _________________________________________________________________ One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. [1]Try it now. ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com References 1. http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025

Sorry Stephen I was thinking your name was Larry. I guess the LSY did it for me. ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

Brownie, I thought you knew you could use that "schlorship" fund (holding tank) in that way.Sorry, otherwise I would have said ask Roberta? but I think she's having or recovering from surgery. So your next in line. We all sent seperate checks to cover the cost of the DNA and it went in the fund and was earmarked for the "gang" DNA and When it was all in. They sent the test to the person.So Mark and Larry if your interested call FamilyTreeDNA the phone number is on [1]www.FamilyTreeDNA and they will set you up. -----Original Message----- From: Mbmackie1231@aol.com Sent: Dec 29, 2008 7:39 PM To: judyfoley@peoplepc.com Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Younger:Source Records Well, that's not what I picked up on in your first note about "ask Brownie." . Now I understand and all I have to say is "no s..., Dick Tracey! Fine. If somebody can pay for what's his name's test...have at it! Love, Brownie _________________________________________________________________ One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. [2]Try it now. ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com References 1. http://www.FamilyTreeDNA/ 2. http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025

Brownie, If Mark puts the money in the fund(earmarked for Larry) then the DNA test is sent to Larry. Two different "Gang" Younger DNA tests were paid by funds from other people who contributed to the fund and it was earmarked for this purpose(the DNA of Joshua and Humphrey). Ask Roberta..The Joshua and Humphrey Younger DNA was paid for by "gang" Youngers who were interested in getting the DNA. I called and asked the two persons who were from both lines to donate their DNA. I did not ask for payment.They did not pay for them. I would not ask someone to pay for DNA when it was for the benefit of the "gang" line to get DNA from persons who really didn't even know the Youngers were doing DNA. But members of our line paid for the tests, which furthered our cause. The John W. Younger DNA was the first done on the "gang" line and I knew that we needed DNA from other "gang" line Youngers to compare. So I got busy and called people who were willing to donate. -----Original Message----- ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

Sorry, but no one has contributed to the general fund for the Youngers in quite a while. Therefore, we have no money to share with anybody contrary to what Judy says. If someone would like to give to the "scholarship"...as we call it...feel free to do so. We would be most grateful. Otherwise there's not enough for even one test. Sincerely, Brownie MacKie Administrator Assistant of the Younger DNA project **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025)

So Mark, FamilyTreeDNA does have a genealogy fund especially for the Youngers and all you have to do(ask Brownie) is put the money in the fund earmarked for Larry. Seems worth it to me. -----Original Message----- >From: Mark Younger <Mark.Younger@hilton.com> >Sent: Dec 29, 2008 2:07 PM >To: "younger@rootsweb.com" <younger@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records > >Understand ..... hopefully others over time will submit and help put the puzzle together or we will unearth the Younger dead sea scrolls in a old moonshiners cave.... > >Mark Younger CFM >Director Facilities Administration >Hilton Hotels Corporation >Memphis Operations/Data Center >755 Crossover Lane >Memphis ,TN 38117 >Tel: 901 374-5458 >Fax :901 374-5458 > >"Necessity is the Mother of Invention"  > > >-----Original Message----- >From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of L S Y >Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 1:03 PM >To: younger@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records > >I think I understand ... I can definately see your frustration. My >great-grandfather (on my mother's side) appears to have materialized in >Nebraska in 1930 and mde up his whole history before then. > >Unfortunately, to be honest, it's $100 I just don't have. Between >my daughters and tuition, my genealogy budget is nearly non-existant these >days. >- Stephen >On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 7:01 AM, Mark Younger <Mark.Younger@hilton.com>wrote: > >> Back in the saddle after Holiday- Stephen don't you want to know "Who's >> your Daddy?" ..Seriously , the only reason I am pushing DNA testing is that >> I have exhausted( over 10 years) all other sources - censuses and internet >> data bases etc. I have only been able , as I stated before , to confirm, to >> my satisfaction, my line to 1850 Carroll County District 5 Tennessee. It >> appears that everyone else wants to trace back to the infamous and multiple >> Alexander's. But my researcher , that wants to remain unnamed, has found two >> possible early(1600's) Scottish sources for the Younger's in America - the >> English Gentry( land owners) line( Tory- Anglican) that where tobacco >> farmers and the indentured(slaves)lowland Scottish Presbyterians prisoners >> that were forced out of the British isles during the religious wars and >> purges( refused to take the oath to the King and his state religion). They >> either where shipped to Bermuda or the southern colonies(Virginia, NC,SC, >> Georgia) to work as slaves on the English plantations. Before the African >> slaves where used. After the war of 1812 they were given or took land grants >> in mainly Kentucky, Tennessee, and Arkansas. We believe I descend from the >> Scottish lowland Presbyterians from around Glasgow that where salt makers. >> These lowlanders had been fighting the English for a long time ( William >> Wallace etc) >> >> So again, the DNA testing is the only method I see that is left to connect >> the dots back any further...... >> >> You are in my supposed line( Armistead, William , Williamson) that were all >> in Carroll County in 1850 - then went back and forth between Tennessee and >> the mountains of Arkansas( late 1850's, 1860 and 1870). I am wanting to >> determined when the James(male) DNA was introduced - before 1850 or after- >> so if you match my DNA it would be before and if we don't match it would be >> after..... >> >> >> >> Mark Younger CFM >> Director Facilities Administration >> Hilton Hotels Corporation >> Memphis Operations/Data Center >> 755 Crossover Lane >> Memphis ,TN 38117 >> Tel: 901 374-5458 >> Fax :901 374-5458 >> >> "Necessity is the Mother of Invention" >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of L S Y >> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 10:18 PM >> To: younger@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Source Records >> >> I would like a copy of the paper, though ... >> >> ... when you're feeling a little better! >> >> - Stephen >> On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 3:33 PM, <restes@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> > I have a paper about how it works if you are interested that I can send >> > to you. >> > >> > Bobbi Estes (Younger DNA surname project volunteer co-administrator) >> > >> > >> > >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com