Willie, Lillamae and Grady Ellis were my parents. I've had Wilman Norton forward you something, because for some odd reason I'm not getting my e-mails through this morning. Brownie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilma C. Hillman" <hillman@one.net> To: <YOUNGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Barry surname > > I'm going to need a kittle help here on the Barry family. I have the parents of Augustus Barry as Bryan > Buckner and Mary Murrill Barry. According to my records they have a son Bryan Thomas Barry and a daughter > Lillamae who married Grady Ellis. > > I have Stella Mae Brown McKissick m 30 Dec 1905 Williamson Henry Younger b 12 Jun 1880 Longton,Elk County, > Kansas d 1 Apr 1965. > > Can you help me straighten these folks out? Who's on first? > > Brownie MacKie wrote: > > > Augustus Barry was probably a son of James Buckner Barry or Kosseth Barry, > > his son. I have Barrys in Tx. My g grandmother, Lilly Barry McKisick [no > > kin to the above], was the mother of Stella Brown McKisick, who married > > Williamson Henry Younger. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "JYG" <jyg@kc.rr.com> > > To: <YOUNGER-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 7:30 PM > > Subject: [YOUNGER] Barry surname > > > > > > > > Wilma and Bette: > > > > > > You mentioned the surname Barry. I know this is not the right area, but > > > thought to pass it on. > > > > > > Margaret Eleanor Younger, dau of Alexander Younger and Jame Merchant > > Hancock > > > b 11 May 1828 Maury, TN; d 20 May 1904 Marshall, Harrison, Tx; bur Oakland > > > Cemetery, Corsicana, Navarro, Tx; m1 24 Dec 1844 Greene, Mo, Sterling B. > > > Allen, who d bef 1850. > > > > > > m2 16 Nov 1850 Navarro, Tx, Augustus BARRY b 1820; d 1899. Thats it.. > > > > > > Linda in KCMO > > > > > > > > > ==== YOUNGER Mailing List ==== > > > For a place To Store and show pictures of your ancesters, goto > > www.ancientfaces.com (If anyone has a problem with this little ad, let me > > know.) > > > > > > ============================== > > > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > > > > > > > > > > ==== YOUNGER Mailing List ==== > > Younger Mailing List, Please feel welcome here. If Need any help just e-mail Younger-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > ============================== > > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > > > ==== YOUNGER Mailing List ==== > If anyone knows what would make a good line for this area. Don't hesitate to e-mail > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > >

Lillamae and Grady Ellis were my parents, Wilma. Here's a brief: I don't have time to send the whole thing. 1. James D. Barry/Julianna Coombe: DC (circa 1790's...1850's) 2. Griffith Coombe Barry/Mary Wingfield Claybrook; daughter of William Peyton Doswell Claybrook and Narcissa D. Nance 3. Lilly Barry/Edward McGary McKisick (Bosque County and McLennan County, TX. 4. Stella Brown McKisick (named for her music teacher)/Williamson Henry Younger, son of James Williamson Younger. 5. Lillamae Younger/Grady Ellis 6. Me; Brownie Ellis MacKie m. (1) Morris High ch: Craig, 1961; Jeana Marie, 1961; Eric Morris, 1967; Ross Grady, 1969. (2) James D. MacKie, no issue. Some of my McKisick cousins also married Barrys. But they were not marrying cousins. I'll get that info to you later. The most prominent Barry in Tx was James Buckner Barry, a famous indian fighter and Tx Ranger, but as far as I can research, we were not related, although my gg grandfather did a little indian fighting with James B. Brownie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilma C. Hillman" <hillman@one.net> To: <YOUNGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Barry surname > > I'm going to need a kittle help here on the Barry family. I have the parents of Augustus Barry as Bryan > Buckner and Mary Murrill Barry. According to my records they have a son Bryan Thomas Barry and a daughter > Lillamae who married Grady Ellis. > > I have Stella Mae Brown McKissick m 30 Dec 1905 Williamson Henry Younger b 12 Jun 1880 Longton,Elk County, > Kansas d 1 Apr 1965. > > Can you help me straighten these folks out? Who's on first? > > Brownie MacKie wrote: > > > Augustus Barry was probably a son of James Buckner Barry or Kosseth Barry, > > his son. I have Barrys in Tx. My g grandmother, Lilly Barry McKisick [no > > kin to the above], was the mother of Stella Brown McKisick, who married > > Williamson Henry Younger. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "JYG" <jyg@kc.rr.com> > > To: <YOUNGER-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 7:30 PM > > Subject: [YOUNGER] Barry surname > > > > > > > > Wilma and Bette: > > > > > > You mentioned the surname Barry. I know this is not the right area, but > > > thought to pass it on. > > > > > > Margaret Eleanor Younger, dau of Alexander Younger and Jame Merchant > > Hancock > > > b 11 May 1828 Maury, TN; d 20 May 1904 Marshall, Harrison, Tx; bur Oakland > > > Cemetery, Corsicana, Navarro, Tx; m1 24 Dec 1844 Greene, Mo, Sterling B. > > > Allen, who d bef 1850. > > > > > > m2 16 Nov 1850 Navarro, Tx, Augustus BARRY b 1820; d 1899. Thats it.. > > > > > > Linda in KCMO > > > > > > > > > ==== YOUNGER Mailing List ==== > > > For a place To Store and show pictures of your ancesters, goto > > www.ancientfaces.com (If anyone has a problem with this little ad, let me > > know.) > > > > > > ============================== > > > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > > > > > > > > > > ==== YOUNGER Mailing List ==== > > Younger Mailing List, Please feel welcome here. If Need any help just e-mail Younger-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > ============================== > > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > > > ==== YOUNGER Mailing List ==== > If anyone knows what would make a good line for this area. Don't hesitate to e-mail > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > >

Clifford, I tried the link below - it said the page had been moved or deleted. Can you double check the link. ----- Original Message ----- From: Clifford D. Younger, Sr. <cyounger@mediaone.net> To: <YOUNGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Henry Younger - MD or Scotland? > Donna, When you have a chance check my web site, the photo section, > I have four or possibly five pictures of KERN family members. Are > my Kern's and yer Kern's the same bunch ? > > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/y/o/u/Clifford-D-Younger-sr/index > .html >

They are printed like this - transcribed by volunteers at the Morman Church and put on CD's. ----- Original Message ----- From: JYG <jyg@kc.rr.com> To: <YOUNGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Re: Katherine Sarah Younger Wallace > Wilma are these Cds printed like this or actual censuses? Thanks. -Linda > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wilma Norton" <wilma@softcom.net> > To: <YOUNGER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 11:32 PM > Subject: [YOUNGER] Re: Katherine Sarah Younger Wallace > > > > This looks like your family. From 1880 census CD > > Census Place: Precinct 3, Palo Pinto, Texas > > Source: FHL Film 1255322 National Archives Film T9-1322 Page 167B > > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > > Robt. WALLACE Self M M W 60 MO > > Occ: Stone Mason Fa: KY Mo: KY > > Catharin S. WALLACE Wife F M W 55 MO > > Occ: Keeping House Fa: KY Mo: MO > > John W. WALLACE Son M S W 16 TX > > Occ: Farm Laborer Fa: MO Mo: MO > > Wm. H. CRENSHAW SonL M M W 25 MS > > Occ: Works On R.R. Fa: SC Mo: SC > > Millie A. CRENSHAW Dau F M W 20 TX > > Occ: No Occupation Fa: MO Mo: MO > > Isaac N. CRENSHAW Nephew M S W 7M TX > > Fa: MS Mo: TX > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Wilma Norton <wilma@softcom.net> > > To: <YOUNGER-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 9:23 PM > > Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Re:Milton T. Younger b 1802 KY > > > > > > > > > > ==== YOUNGER Mailing List ==== > > For a place To Store and show pictures of your ancesters, goto > www.ancientfaces.com (If anyone has a problem with this little ad, let me > know.) > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > > ==== YOUNGER Mailing List ==== > For a place To Store and show pictures of your ancesters, goto www.ancientfaces.com (If anyone has a problem with this little ad, let me know.) > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

I have never met Walela Snowbird...she is a second cousin, I believe. I also have Uncle Ray Younger's notes, and he states very clearly that they saw Cole Younger briefly after one of Cole's lectures, compared family, and Cole joked that they might be "fifth cousins" or so....in other words a relationship was doubtful. Of course, none of them researched the probability. I also have Geneva Younger's research and a letter in which she states that our branch probably came from England and that Wilma Hillman confirmed this for her. Geneva and her daughter spent many years researching this Younger branch. Geneva is the daughter-in-law of Ernest Younger, son of James Williamson Younger. Geneva's research is on FamilySearch for all to see. I stated this privately to Linda, but I'll state it again publicly....I set out to prove that we WERE RELATED to the Younger brothers and found that we were NOT. It certainly is not a matter of wanting to be or not to be related to a gang of bank robbers and thieves. We can chose our friends but not our relatives. Have a good day!

I have never met Walela Snowbird...she is a second cousin, I believe. I also have Uncle Ray Younger's notes, and he states very clearly that they saw Cole Younger briefly after one of Cole's lectures, compared family, and Cole joked that they might be "fifth cousins" or so....in other words a relationship was doubtful. Of course, none of them researched the probability. I also have Geneva Younger's research and a letter in which she states that our branch probably came from England and that Wilma Hillman confirmed this for her. Geneva and her daughter spent many years researching this Younger branch. Geneva is the daughter-in-law of Ernest Younger, son of James Williamson Younger. Geneva's research is on FamilySearch for all to see. I stated this privately to Linda, but I'll state it again publicly....I set out to prove that we WERE RELATED to the Younger brothers and found that we were NOT. It certainly is not a matter of wanting to be or not to be related to a gang of bank robbers and thieves. We can chose our friends but not our relatives. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walela SnowBird" <Nokwsi@worldnet.att.net> To: <YOUNGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 12:39 AM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Addressed to Linda S. > > I find this interesting as this is how I perceive the relationship of the VA > Youngers to the Younger "Gang".....actually, this is what my grandpa told me > how it was, but alas....Brownie doesn't want to hear that, she doesn't want > to be related to the outlaws, she's told me so, she makes no bones about it, > Brownie and I are cousins, but we don't see eye to eye on this..........my > grandpa, Robert Ray, wrote everything down and I have his notes where he and > his father, James Williamson, spent an afternoon with Cole in Clifton, TX > and of course, the subject of genealogy came up.....apparently names were > compared and Cole said that they were related......my grandpa and my dad do > believe that, so do I > > Walela > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JYG" <jyg@kc.rr.com> > To: <YOUNGER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: July 30, 2001 2:54 PM > Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Addressed to Linda S. > > > > To the list: > > > > This will NOT happen again, but seems Brownie is not going to leave ma > alone > > no matter where I go, sop lets get this over with.... please accept my > > apologies... > > > > Brownie: > > > > You already know we disagree on this subject and I am not getting into a > > heated debate about it. No one has given me proof that Humphrey Younger > was > > or was not the brother of Alexander and Andrew Younger, sons of Thomas > > Younger-Anna Nash, and this is where I believe the "Younger Brothers" > > connect to "your" Virginia Youngers. Until I am shown documented proof > > otherwise, my opinions are strictly that and firmly stated as that, and > > everyone I work with knows it. We are all seeking the truth. No one wants > > someone elses ancestry. What good would that do? Looks to me like you are > > afraid to be connected to these outlaws, but worse things could happen... > > > > And yes, I am working on a book and have been for eight years; and working > > on genealogy since 1964. Again, I state that I lost a great deal of > > documentation in two pc problems. I am working HARD to retrieve what was > > lost. No, I did not have proof then of Humphrey's ancestry, that I can > > recall. > > > > I might like to add that I worked on the MIMS and WOODSON lists and gave > > them my GEDcom files when I was "finished" working on those lines. I am > not > > just sitting back here collecting everyone elses data and I hope this list > > feels I am contributing. ALL of the people who have helped me are being > > given credit, where credit is due. > > > > Now, I have a question for you.... Why are you attacking me so, with your > > hurtful comments, you do NOT know me? I have seen you also treat others > with > > disrespect, who do not agree with you. Don't answer....there is a time and > > place for everything and this is not it. You have the option to "ignore" > my > > posts and others who do not share your views. I have nothing further to > say > > to you and I want to state my apology to the list for this.... again. > > > > Linda in KCMO > > "The James-Younger Gang and Their Kinfolk." > > ...a genealogy in progress... > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brownie MacKie" <BMacKie1@compuserve.com> > > To: <YOUNGER-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 2:03 PM > > Subject: [YOUNGER] Addressed to Linda S. > > > > > > > Linda, if you're writing a book (I saw your GenForum statement), I'd > like > > to > > > know right off the bat how you think the "Younger brothers" are > connected > > to > > > our VA Youngers. You must know something the rest of us do not know. > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== YOUNGER Mailing List ==== > > > For a place To Store and show pictures of your ancesters, goto > > www.ancientfaces.com (If anyone has a problem with this little ad, let me > > know.) > > > > > > ============================== > > > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > > > If you know how to reduce these risks. > > > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html > > > > > > > > > ==== YOUNGER Mailing List ==== > > If anyone knows what would make a good line for this area. 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In the last digest I received, I noticed there were references to what must be two different Younger spouses by the name of "Anna Nash". Do we know if they were related? And - please forgive me, I'm new here - Who was "Tomahawk" Thomas? Whether he's in my line or not, I'm very interested in finding out how he got that nickname. Thanks, Stephen _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Wilma are these Cds printed like this or actual censuses? Thanks. -Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilma Norton" <wilma@softcom.net> To: <YOUNGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 11:32 PM Subject: [YOUNGER] Re: Katherine Sarah Younger Wallace > This looks like your family. From 1880 census CD > Census Place: Precinct 3, Palo Pinto, Texas > Source: FHL Film 1255322 National Archives Film T9-1322 Page 167B > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > Robt. WALLACE Self M M W 60 MO > Occ: Stone Mason Fa: KY Mo: KY > Catharin S. WALLACE Wife F M W 55 MO > Occ: Keeping House Fa: KY Mo: MO > John W. WALLACE Son M S W 16 TX > Occ: Farm Laborer Fa: MO Mo: MO > Wm. H. CRENSHAW SonL M M W 25 MS > Occ: Works On R.R. Fa: SC Mo: SC > Millie A. CRENSHAW Dau F M W 20 TX > Occ: No Occupation Fa: MO Mo: MO > Isaac N. CRENSHAW Nephew M S W 7M TX > Fa: MS Mo: TX > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Wilma Norton <wilma@softcom.net> > To: <YOUNGER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 9:23 PM > Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Re:Milton T. Younger b 1802 KY > > > > > ==== YOUNGER Mailing List ==== > For a place To Store and show pictures of your ancesters, goto www.ancientfaces.com (If anyone has a problem with this little ad, let me know.) > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

This is what I have and have not traced this much: Milton T. Younger b 15 May 1802 Garrard, Ky; d 1852 Liberty, Clay, Mo (near where I now live) m abt 1824 Mo, Sarah Mildred "Millie" Taylor b 22 Sep 1802; children: 1. Katharine (Taylor?) (your line) 2. Charles (there has been quite a bit done on his family) he has a son Coleman Washington b 1848 who could be the "uncle Wash" 3. Rebecca b 1 Dec 1828 Mo; d Dec 1912. (untraced) Charles Lee Younger, had by his slave, Fanny: Washington, another candidate, who was b sometime bef 1852 Mo. Linda in KCMO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaye Lynn Stanga" <gstanga@telocity.com> To: <YOUNGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 11:14 PM Subject: [YOUNGER] Re:Milton T. Younger b 1802 KY > I do not have Milton Younger's death date and location or when and who > he married. I do not know what his middle initial "T" stands for. I > have seen his mother's name as Nancy Toney and Toomey, also, but do not > know which is correct. Katharine Younger is spelled with a "C" in > Charles Younger's will. But I have a copy of a letter she wrote to her > children in 1883 in which she signs her name "Katharine S. Wallace." > Her tombstone at Blue Flat Cemetery in Texas has "K. S. Wallace." I > assumed her middle name was Sarah because she is listed as "Sarah" in > the 1870 Denton Co., TX federal census. I probably shouldn't have made > that assumption. Will double check to see what other proof I may have. > > In her letter of 1883, she talks about "your Uncle Wash." Who are the > best candidates for this Uncle Wash? > > So many questions, so few answers. > > Gaye Lynn Stanga > gstanga@telocity.com > > > ==== YOUNGER Mailing List ==== > If anyone knows what would make a good line for this area. Don't hesitate to e-mail > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >

I do not have Milton Younger's death date and location or when and who he married. I do not know what his middle initial "T" stands for. I have seen his mother's name as Nancy Toney and Toomey, also, but do not know which is correct. Katharine Younger is spelled with a "C" in Charles Younger's will. But I have a copy of a letter she wrote to her children in 1883 in which she signs her name "Katharine S. Wallace." Her tombstone at Blue Flat Cemetery in Texas has "K. S. Wallace." I assumed her middle name was Sarah because she is listed as "Sarah" in the 1870 Denton Co., TX federal census. I probably shouldn't have made that assumption. Will double check to see what other proof I may have. In her letter of 1883, she talks about "your Uncle Wash." Who are the best candidates for this Uncle Wash? So many questions, so few answers. Gaye Lynn Stanga gstanga@telocity.com

I just found a database that I didn't know I had access to: SOURCE: Marriage Index: Texas, 1850-1900. (All "Ref." are Library of Congress Reference numbers.) Augustus Barry-Margaret E. Allen 15 Dec 1851 Navarro, Tx, Usa Ref. 976.4282 V2a E. M. Younger-N. A. Palmer 8 Mar 1885 Hunt, Tx Ref. 976.4272 V25i George Younger-Dollie Jordon 19 Aug 1888 Denton, Tx Film 1302337-1302339 George Younger-Mrs. Clarisee Sandifer 4 Jul 1892 Denton, Tx Film 1302337-1302339 George Younger-Ella Madison 27 Dec 1898 Jefferson, Tx Ref. 976.4145 V25s Icie Younger-J. T. Frazier 22 Aug 1889 Delta, Tx Film 1302009 J. S. Younger-Mrs. E. L. Johnson 23 Nov 1896 Jefferson, Tx Ref. 976.4145 V25s J. T. Younger-Matilda Byrns 6 Jun 1886 Delta, Tx Film 1302009 J. W. Younger-Mrs. E. J. Anderson 7 Jun 1888 Delta, Tx Film 1302009 James A. Younger-Sallie Barthalomew 26 Jul 1871 Cooke, Tx Film 0164653, item 4 James M. Younger-Julia Winn 23 Oct 1879 Hopkins, Tx Film 1064654, item 3 Myra Younger-A. A. Mc Natt 23 Dec 1900 Hunt, Tx Ref. 976.4272 V25i Thomas H. Younger-Emma C. Garner 9 Sep 1858 Fannin, Tx Film 1293827 items 3-4; and 1293828 W. H. H. Younger-Minnie Reynolds 7 Oct 1887 Hunt, Tx Ref. 976.4272 V25i Linda in KCMO

Hello Gaye- Perhaps you can help me with something. I have Nancy's last name as Toomey, her father being Elexander Toomey (as it was spelled in "whatever" source I had had but is lost). I am faithfully trying to backtrack, but this is hard to do. I also have Milton's middle name as Toomey. I am trying to find his burial place and go to the grave to see if his full name is on his tombstone. Do you know where he is burried? I live in the area and can take some digital photos if you want them. Next: I have Catharine with a middle name Taylor, after her mother's maiden name. Can you comment here? Do you know where Catharine's mother (Sarah Mildred "Millie" Taylor) died and is she burried with Milton? Thanks! Linda in KCMO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaye Lynn Stanga" <gstanga@telocity.com> To: <YOUNGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 10:01 PM Subject: [YOUNGER] Re:Milton T. Younger b 1802 KY > Have been enjoying all the back and forth on this list. Decided to > state my relationship to Youngers. I am descended through Katharine > Sarah Younger, daughter of Milton T. Younger, son of Charles Younger and > first wife Nancy Toney. Katharine Sarah Younger, b 1 Dec 1825, MO, > married Robert Milton Wallace on 24 Oct 1843 in MO. They had 9 > children, including my gggrandmother, Hannah Arent Wallace b 26 Jan > 1850. Hannah married Amos Barton Cheatham on 19 Aug 1870 in Denton Co., > TX. Hannah & Amos had 10 children, including my g-grandfather, Silas > Terry Cheatham. > > Are there any more of Milton Younger's descendants out there? Katharine > Sarah Younger Wallace died 22 Dec 1891 in Gordon, Palo Pinto County, > Texas. > > Gaye Lynn Stanga > gstanga@telocity.com > > > ==== YOUNGER Mailing List ==== > If anyone knows what would make a good line for this area. Don't hesitate to e-mail > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library >

Have been enjoying all the back and forth on this list. Decided to state my relationship to Youngers. I am descended through Katharine Sarah Younger, daughter of Milton T. Younger, son of Charles Younger and first wife Nancy Toney. Katharine Sarah Younger, b 1 Dec 1825, MO, married Robert Milton Wallace on 24 Oct 1843 in MO. They had 9 children, including my gggrandmother, Hannah Arent Wallace b 26 Jan 1850. Hannah married Amos Barton Cheatham on 19 Aug 1870 in Denton Co., TX. Hannah & Amos had 10 children, including my g-grandfather, Silas Terry Cheatham. Are there any more of Milton Younger's descendants out there? Katharine Sarah Younger Wallace died 22 Dec 1891 in Gordon, Palo Pinto County, Texas. Gaye Lynn Stanga gstanga@telocity.com

I find this interesting as this is how I perceive the relationship of the VA Youngers to the Younger "Gang".....actually, this is what my grandpa told me how it was, but alas....Brownie doesn't want to hear that, she doesn't want to be related to the outlaws, she's told me so, she makes no bones about it, Brownie and I are cousins, but we don't see eye to eye on this..........my grandpa, Robert Ray, wrote everything down and I have his notes where he and his father, James Williamson, spent an afternoon with Cole in Clifton, TX and of course, the subject of genealogy came up.....apparently names were compared and Cole said that they were related......my grandpa and my dad do believe that, so do I Walela ----- Original Message ----- From: "JYG" <jyg@kc.rr.com> To: <YOUNGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: July 30, 2001 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Addressed to Linda S. > To the list: > > This will NOT happen again, but seems Brownie is not going to leave ma alone > no matter where I go, sop lets get this over with.... please accept my > apologies... > > Brownie: > > You already know we disagree on this subject and I am not getting into a > heated debate about it. No one has given me proof that Humphrey Younger was > or was not the brother of Alexander and Andrew Younger, sons of Thomas > Younger-Anna Nash, and this is where I believe the "Younger Brothers" > connect to "your" Virginia Youngers. Until I am shown documented proof > otherwise, my opinions are strictly that and firmly stated as that, and > everyone I work with knows it. We are all seeking the truth. No one wants > someone elses ancestry. What good would that do? Looks to me like you are > afraid to be connected to these outlaws, but worse things could happen... > > And yes, I am working on a book and have been for eight years; and working > on genealogy since 1964. Again, I state that I lost a great deal of > documentation in two pc problems. I am working HARD to retrieve what was > lost. No, I did not have proof then of Humphrey's ancestry, that I can > recall. > > I might like to add that I worked on the MIMS and WOODSON lists and gave > them my GEDcom files when I was "finished" working on those lines. I am not > just sitting back here collecting everyone elses data and I hope this list > feels I am contributing. ALL of the people who have helped me are being > given credit, where credit is due. > > Now, I have a question for you.... Why are you attacking me so, with your > hurtful comments, you do NOT know me? I have seen you also treat others with > disrespect, who do not agree with you. Don't answer....there is a time and > place for everything and this is not it. You have the option to "ignore" my > posts and others who do not share your views. I have nothing further to say > to you and I want to state my apology to the list for this.... again. > > Linda in KCMO > "The James-Younger Gang and Their Kinfolk." > ...a genealogy in progress... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brownie MacKie" <BMacKie1@compuserve.com> > To: <YOUNGER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 2:03 PM > Subject: [YOUNGER] Addressed to Linda S. > > > > Linda, if you're writing a book (I saw your GenForum statement), I'd like > to > > know right off the bat how you think the "Younger brothers" are connected > to > > our VA Youngers. You must know something the rest of us do not know. :-) > > > > > > > > ==== YOUNGER Mailing List ==== > > For a place To Store and show pictures of your ancesters, goto > www.ancientfaces.com (If anyone has a problem with this little ad, let me > know.) > > > > ============================== > > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > > If you know how to reduce these risks. > > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html > > > > > ==== YOUNGER Mailing List ==== > If anyone knows what would make a good line for this area. Don't hesitate to e-mail > > ============================== > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > If you know how to reduce these risks. > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html > >

This looks like your family. From 1880 census CD Census Place: Precinct 3, Palo Pinto, Texas Source: FHL Film 1255322 National Archives Film T9-1322 Page 167B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Robt. WALLACE Self M M W 60 MO Occ: Stone Mason Fa: KY Mo: KY Catharin S. WALLACE Wife F M W 55 MO Occ: Keeping House Fa: KY Mo: MO John W. WALLACE Son M S W 16 TX Occ: Farm Laborer Fa: MO Mo: MO Wm. H. CRENSHAW SonL M M W 25 MS Occ: Works On R.R. Fa: SC Mo: SC Millie A. CRENSHAW Dau F M W 20 TX Occ: No Occupation Fa: MO Mo: MO Isaac N. CRENSHAW Nephew M S W 7M TX Fa: MS Mo: TX ----- Original Message ----- From: Wilma Norton <wilma@softcom.net> To: <YOUNGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Re:Milton T. Younger b 1802 KY

MAYBE her brother, Charles, is Charles Washington??? Just guessing of course. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gaye Lynn Stanga <gstanga@telocity.com> To: <YOUNGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 9:14 PM Subject: [YOUNGER] Re:Milton T. Younger b 1802 KY > I do not have Milton Younger's death date and location or when and who > he married. I do not know what his middle initial "T" stands for. I > have seen his mother's name as Nancy Toney and Toomey, also, but do not > know which is correct. Katharine Younger is spelled with a "C" in > Charles Younger's will. But I have a copy of a letter she wrote to her > children in 1883 in which she signs her name "Katharine S. Wallace." > Her tombstone at Blue Flat Cemetery in Texas has "K. S. Wallace." I > assumed her middle name was Sarah because she is listed as "Sarah" in > the 1870 Denton Co., TX federal census. I probably shouldn't have made > that assumption. Will double check to see what other proof I may have. > > In her letter of 1883, she talks about "your Uncle Wash." Who are the > best candidates for this Uncle Wash? > > So many questions, so few answers. > > Gaye Lynn Stanga > gstanga@telocity.com > > > ==== YOUNGER Mailing List ==== > If anyone knows what would make a good line for this area. Don't hesitate to e-mail > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > >

Welcome to the list Gaye -- do you have Milton T.'s death date and location and when and who he married. I had Katharine Sarah spelled with a C - Catherine -- will change to K if you say so since this is your line. Wilma ----- Original Message ----- From: Gaye Lynn Stanga <gstanga@telocity.com> To: <YOUNGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 8:01 PM Subject: [YOUNGER] Re:Milton T. Younger b 1802 KY > Have been enjoying all the back and forth on this list. Decided to > state my relationship to Youngers. I am descended through Katharine > Sarah Younger, daughter of Milton T. Younger, son of Charles Younger and > first wife Nancy Toney. Katharine Sarah Younger, b 1 Dec 1825, MO, > married Robert Milton Wallace on 24 Oct 1843 in MO. They had 9 > children, including my gggrandmother, Hannah Arent Wallace b 26 Jan > 1850. Hannah married Amos Barton Cheatham on 19 Aug 1870 in Denton Co., > TX. Hannah & Amos had 10 children, including my g-grandfather, Silas > Terry Cheatham. > > Are there any more of Milton Younger's descendants out there? Katharine > Sarah Younger Wallace died 22 Dec 1891 in Gordon, Palo Pinto County, > Texas. > > Gaye Lynn Stanga > gstanga@telocity.com > > > ==== YOUNGER Mailing List ==== > If anyone knows what would make a good line for this area. Don't hesitate to e-mail > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > >

I have some correspondence from Dreat Younger, now deceased, and thought I'd share some of it. This is a copy of a letter from Jay P. Younger, deceased, to Dreat, written July 7, 1991 "I have sent in forms to the National Archives to have a search made of Thomas Younger as a Revolutionary veteran. The records of the Archives of Maryland, Vol. 18, Pg 59 states a Thomas Younger enrolled by Captain Paca in the army of the revolution in Harford Co. MD on July 24, 1776. I feel certain that this Thomas was the son of John and Sarah (Kennard) Younger of Kent Co. MD. If his military records are found I will have another search made to see if he was given a land grant in North Carolina or Tennessee. If I find his location there we may be able to establish that he had a son named Thomas born in 1790 or 1791. If this can be proved we will have our line to Cole Younger. Cole's great-grandfather Joshua and our GR-Gr-Gr-grandfather Thomas were brothers. This brother Thomas was the father of our Tomahawk Thomas, and he the father of our Alexander." I have always tried to find my connection to the Younger Brothers also. My family tradition was they were "cousins of some sort to a 2nd or 3rd grandfather". I once asked Dreat how he knew our line was related to the Boys. He said "it was just something that he always knew -- didn't doubt it for a minute" but he couldn't offer any concrete proof. Just "I know it because I know it" - it had been passed down through his parents and grandparents that they were kin. I don't know if Jay ever got the papers he wanted, or if he found the proof he was looking for. He had all his research in his computer and it went to a nephew. Wilma

Missouri-Chariton County Craig, Idress E. married Wallace, John S. on 28 Jun 1833 in Chariton County, Missouri [SOURCE:Missouri Marriages to 1850] Miss Agnes Stanford Wallace. DAR ID Number: 114882 Born in Fayette, Mo. Descendant of Maj. Andrew Wallace, as follows: 1. James Craig Wallace (b. 1840) m. 1877 Laura H. Watts (b. 1854). 2. John Snoddy Wallace (1802-51) m. 1833 Idress E. Craig (1816-93). 3. Samuel Wallace (1771-1852) m. 1798 Anna Snoddy (1778-1861). 4. Andrew Wallace m. 1769 Catherine Parks (1749-1825). Andrew Wallace (1748-1829) served as major in the Virginia militia. On his tombstone is inscribed his title. He was born in Virginia; died in Stanford, Ky. Mrs. Idress Craig Wallace Flower. DAR ID Number: 114883 Born in Fayette, Mo. Descendant of Maj. Andrew Wallace, as follows: 1. James Craig Wallace (b. 1840) m. 1877 Laura H. Watts (b. 1854). [SOURCE: DAR Lineage Books] She may have married a third time to Daniel Ashby 13 Oct 1869? son of henry Ashby and Judith Shumate. no details. [ancestry.com GEDcom file] None of the trees mention a Younger marriage. Linda in KCMO

Idress Craig Wallace first husband was John S. Wallace. Her parents were Hiram Craig and Maria Mitchell Tate. Her second husband was Robert Anderson Younger. They had Julia Bendetta who married Bennie Rader. She is the daughter that Robert wrote the beautiful letter to about his life. Donna Green Nash