1719 John Lee born 11 Nov., son of Anthony Lee & Mary Whitaker, who was the daughter of Charles Whitaker and Sarah Baker.

In a message dated 11/3/2006 12:29:16 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Robert E. Lee's mother was > Anne. Also...Anne Hill Carter was a descendent of Robert Carter (King Carter) and Alexander Spotswood. Both families were extremely prominent and wealthy. I, too, have done extensive research on the Youngers/Lees and can find absolultely no connection to any of the above. Especially not Lighthorse Harry and Robert E. It is quite doubtful that the Younger families were connected at all and dear "Lizzie Lee" was most likely a less prominent "Lee" if indeed her surname was Lee. Otherwise Cole wouldn't have called her "Lizzie"... not something one would call a gentlewoman. I think, instead of wishful thinking, one must consider the facts and be a realist where one's ancestors are concerned. That's simply my opinion for what it is worth.....and I'm sticking to it :-) :-) Brownie

Pat, I lost a little gray matter right before I wrote Richard Price and Mary Hill Carter.So do you know anything about the John Lee, b. 1719? I did see Jane Price marrying William Montigue in the article on Peter, but according to the Ditchy story,Lucy Lee Smith m. a William Montigue. I didn't see that association in this article. I guess she married one of them. I see George Twyman was an indentured servant to Thomas Lee coming to this country in the ship Recovery is adjudged 16 years old. Feb. 4 1677/78. I guess they were all mixed up somehow. -----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >Sent: Nov 3, 2006 1:28 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [YOUNGER] Ann Younger > >Judy - who is Ann Younger married to Richard Price? I don't know - I >never heard of a Richard Price connected to Youngers. My John Price was married >to Ann Younger, daughter of Alexander Younger, who came in to Essex County VA >as an indentured servant. Edward Rouzee registered his indenture June 1699. > The paper seems to have been sold several times and rerecorded by each new >owner. > >I spent years on the Lees, big bucks, lots of travel, and lost half my grey >cells in the process and still didn't solve the problem with them that I was >working. Light Horse Harry Lee was born Jan 1756. He was a student at >Princeton at least 1770 through 1773. Elizabeth (Lee) Younger (wife of Joshua), >according to Younger researchers, died by Sept 1777 after having had four >children so we can calculate that she was born no later than 1759 when Harry was >three years old!!! > >By the way, Light Horse Harry's 2nd wife and Robert E. Lee's mother was >Anne. She is never referred to as Mary in Edmund Jennings Lee's work, nor in >Robert E. Lee's biography of his father, nor in Cazenove Gardner Lee's work, nor >in Paul Nagel's work, nor in Edward C. Mead's work. She was named for her >mother, Anne Butler Moore Carter. I feel certain that had there been a close >relationship of the Hills of Middlesex and Essex Co and the Carters of >"Shirley" that someone would have claimed the connection given genealogists' >propensity to try to tie to well known families. > >When William Montague, husband of Jane (Price) died 1754, he left his land >called the Island in Middlesex Co. to his son John and the land in Essex County > he had purchased from Robert Price to his son, Peter. Montague's Island is >located in "A Place in Time" as in the river near Perrot's Creek and settled >first by Peter Montague who died 1659. > >According to William Lindsay Hopkins: "Middlesex County, Virginia Wills and >Inventories" there is record in Middlesex Co of a suit brought by Jane's >children after William died. She had remarried and her husband seems to have run >up some debts perhaps using some of the Montague assets as collateral. > >Pat Finnell > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

Judy - who is Ann Younger married to Richard Price? I don't know - I never heard of a Richard Price connected to Youngers. My John Price was married to Ann Younger, daughter of Alexander Younger, who came in to Essex County VA as an indentured servant. Edward Rouzee registered his indenture June 1699. The paper seems to have been sold several times and rerecorded by each new owner. I spent years on the Lees, big bucks, lots of travel, and lost half my grey cells in the process and still didn't solve the problem with them that I was working. Light Horse Harry Lee was born Jan 1756. He was a student at Princeton at least 1770 through 1773. Elizabeth (Lee) Younger (wife of Joshua), according to Younger researchers, died by Sept 1777 after having had four children so we can calculate that she was born no later than 1759 when Harry was three years old!!! By the way, Light Horse Harry's 2nd wife and Robert E. Lee's mother was Anne. She is never referred to as Mary in Edmund Jennings Lee's work, nor in Robert E. Lee's biography of his father, nor in Cazenove Gardner Lee's work, nor in Paul Nagel's work, nor in Edward C. Mead's work. She was named for her mother, Anne Butler Moore Carter. I feel certain that had there been a close relationship of the Hills of Middlesex and Essex Co and the Carters of "Shirley" that someone would have claimed the connection given genealogists' propensity to try to tie to well known families. When William Montague, husband of Jane (Price) died 1754, he left his land called the Island in Middlesex Co. to his son John and the land in Essex County he had purchased from Robert Price to his son, Peter. Montague's Island is located in "A Place in Time" as in the river near Perrot's Creek and settled first by Peter Montague who died 1659. According to William Lindsay Hopkins: "Middlesex County, Virginia Wills and Inventories" there is record in Middlesex Co of a suit brought by Jane's children after William died. She had remarried and her husband seems to have run up some debts perhaps using some of the Montague assets as collateral. Pat Finnell

Everybody who is interested in Lees, and/or John Lee, I suggest you Google them. That's where I found the information I sent the other day, and there's plenty more.

I said Mary Hill, I think it was Ann Hill Carter?

Pat, Read the following Younger-L messages that MBmackie [email protected] sent on Monday, Oct. 30, Monday,8:57, Richard Lee of Ditchley, also on Mon. 1:52 PM, House of Montigue,(a long article on Peter Montigue but on page 26, there is a John Lee who is a witness to the will of Thomas Montigue's wife, Penelope and there is another reference to John Lee. It will let you search. My gggg grandmother was Mary Agatha Dearing and her husband was Capt. John W. Younger, cousin to Joshua Younger, g grandfather of the Younger "gang". In my family outline which Judy Hofstetter sent(and got info. From others) there is the mention of a marriage of Catherine Montigue to a John Lee. The date of his birth is listed on the research as July 5, 1719 in Middlesex Co., Va. That was supposedly Catherine's first husband, second being George Twyman I and third being John Warwick. But in the article on Peter Montique and descendants there is no marriage listed with Catherine Montigue and John Lee. Now I'm trying to figure out what Younger family the Ann Younger m. Richard Price was from? Now Mary Hill sounds familiar as Mary Hill Carter, married Harry "Lighthorse" Lee, and had Robert E. Lee. Do you know if Mary Hill and Mary Hill Carter were related? Do you know which William Montigue married Jane Price? One William Montigue m. 2nd. Judy Lee Smith, daughter of Richard Lee. But I haven't figured that out either. I'm not sure if your aware of this or not, so let me tell you. It might clear the air a little for you. Capt. John W. Younger, had a sister, Mary Younger Ragan and her son, Jacob, married a Mary Hill Carter, she was the niece of the Mary Hill Carter who married 2nd. Harry"Lighthorse" Lee and she had Robert E. Lee. Now Cole Younger always said that his grandfather Joshua was married to a daughter(I believe) of Lighthorse Lee and called her "Lizzie Lee" or something to that effect. I was telling Wilma that I knew of Lee's on Mary Agatha Dearing line, which is the Montigues, Bufords, Twymans, Dearings. I'd appreciate any help! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 9:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [YOUNGER] Lee/Montague/Younger I am not sure from the messages posted in the last few days which Lees, Montagues and Youngers you are discussing without some dates of reference. However I can add a bit of trivia regarding Lees and Montagues of Middlesex and Essex Co VA loosely connected to Youngers. Robert Price, Middlesex Co d. 1690. His son, Robert, asked that Thomas Lee be named his guardian. There is no further mention of this younger Robert Price. Secondly, John Price (grandson of the first Robert above) d. 1772 Essex County (husband of Ann Younger) named as one of his executors a John Lee. This John Lee of Smithfield supposedly married Mary Hill whose sister, Catherine married Thomas Price (brother of this John Price). This John Lee (perhaps of Maryland) was nephew of John Lee d. 1767 Essex Co of "Cabin Point, and was father of Hancock and John. This John Lee, the executor died without completing his duties to John Price's estate and a suit between heirs was filed in the 1790s in Cumberland Co VA to try to settle John's estate. The self appointed executor had gone back to Essex Co to try to determine the current status of probate but John Lee's estate had been privately administered without probate and no records were available. The name, Hancock, certainly says this Essex Co family was probably related to the Westmoreland family. As you all are probably aware, John Price d. 1772 Essex Co had only one sister, Jane, who married William Montague. The Montagues had sons named, John, James, Samuel and Peter, maybe others. Pat Finnell ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am not sure from the messages posted in the last few days which Lees, Montagues and Youngers you are discussing without some dates of reference. However I can add a bit of trivia regarding Lees and Montagues of Middlesex and Essex Co VA loosely connected to Youngers. Robert Price, Middlesex Co d. 1690. His son, Robert, asked that Thomas Lee be named his guardian. There is no further mention of this younger Robert Price. Secondly, John Price (grandson of the first Robert above) d. 1772 Essex County (husband of Ann Younger) named as one of his executors a John Lee. This John Lee of Smithfield supposedly married Mary Hill whose sister, Catherine married Thomas Price (brother of this John Price). This John Lee (perhaps of Maryland) was nephew of John Lee d. 1767 Essex Co of "Cabin Point, and was father of Hancock and John. This John Lee, the executor died without completing his duties to John Price's estate and a suit between heirs was filed in the 1790s in Cumberland Co VA to try to settle John's estate. The self appointed executor had gone back to Essex Co to try to determine the current status of probate but John Lee's estate had been privately administered without probate and no records were available. The name, Hancock, certainly says this Essex Co family was probably related to the Westmoreland family. As you all are probably aware, John Price d. 1772 Essex Co had only one sister, Jane, who married William Montague. The Montagues had sons named, John, James, Samuel and Peter, maybe others. Pat Finnell

Judy, I don't know that the information on John Lee is wrong. That info was given to you by someone. I was just trying to hunt around. On the research notes you gave me on Agatha Buford, a Robert Jeffries lists Agatha's marriages as 1. George Twyman 2. John Warwick 3. John Lee. Not sure about Catherine Montigue m. John Lee. John Lee was a witness in that Thomas Montigue will though. Seems like he knew the family somehow. I think we need to hunt around. I did see on the Lee Society site a John Lee, he was a physician and he died like at 28 unmarried. No birth date on him though. I didn't find that Lee Society website too informative when it came to individual Lees. It just sort of gave General info on the family.You'd think there would have been an official family tree. But maybe I didn't see it all.I think we need to ponder this one awhile.

Judy , Wilma Hillman and others. Did yiu see the two articles that Brownie found both on 10/30/06, Lees etc. and Lees, etc.2. The first article is about the Lee family and how they have found a Lucy Lee Smith, daughter of Richard Lee. She married 2nd a William Montigue. There is another very good article, House of Montigue, which outline Peter Montigue and his family down to George Twyman I married Agatha Buford.Now I did not see a marriage of Lucy Smith to a William Montigue. But on our Peter Montigue outline there is a Lettice Ledford Weeks m. James Pace, of interest there is that one of Richard's daughter was a Lettice Lee and I'll have to read that Lee article again to see if it was the Ledford she married second.Anyways on out outline Catherine Montigue supposedly married John Lee but the House of Montigue outline she married someone else. Also, John Lee is listed as I think executor (on pg.26 of a will by a Thomas Montigues wife, Penelope. And it seems like he is mentioned somewhere else. There's a lot to comprehend in that article and I haven't looked at it today.But in the House of Montigue article page 2, note that Peter Montigue was friends with a Sam Matthews. The Lees and I'm thinking it was Lucy Lee married a Baldwin Matthews Smith Also, on page 3, the Church in Lancaster was built by the Carters as in King Carter who was a relation of the Carters who married into the Ragans and also William Montigue and Peter attended this church.Also, a Hannah Ball m. a Montigue. Be sure to read the Lee article first, because it makes some of the second one make a little more sense.There is also an article on the Lee Society page where this lady who proposed the change to the ancestors of Richard Lee submitted her article and had it acceptedin the 1960's?I e-mailed the man who wrote the Peter Montigue article to ask him about John Lee. He wasn't listed as a husband of Catherine Montigue or Agatha Buford in his article. ________________________________ From: [email protected] on behalf of ginger40220 Sent: Tue 10/31/2006 4:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] sOMETHING FOR jOSHUA yOUNGER DESCENDANTS Re: Lee Judy Foley, Willie Hillman, and all, here is some of the Lee information that I looked at after some of the discussion concerning Lees and our families. Some of our Youngers' ancestors' names are Buford, Montague, Deering/Dearing, and Twyman. Some of the information I've found on the following families is from the book: Daniell-Prater Dearing-Twyman Thoden-Hartley-Titshaw, compiled by Alice and Forrest Daniell. (Alice Prater Daniell), publ 1973, Houston, TX. I found this source at Kentucky Historical Library, Frankfort, Kentucky. Another source was Genforum postings on Buford and Lee sites. One assertion of the Buford family is that Thomas Buford (May 21, 1682 - 1761) married Elizabeth Metstand Lee. This has been challenged by Lee researcher Mike Lee of Lynchburg, VA, Genforum posting on Dec 23, 2001. Other names for Elizabeth have been said to be Ball or Johnson. John Lee, dates unknown is shown as one of Aggatha Buford's husbands. (Aggatha was the daughter of Thomas and Elizabeth mentioned above.) My estimate is that they married after 1736. Aggatha was born Aug 13, 1705 in Middlesex Co., VA; died aft 1785 in Madison Co, VA at son William's home. I have not found any children from her marriage to John Lee. George Lee is listed as husband of Mary Buford, another daughter of Thomas and Elizabeth. Again referring to Aggatha Buford, her second husband was John Warrick/Warwick/Warlick. He is said to be the son of Thomas Warwick and Mary Lee. Mary Lee was a widow of William Jones when she married Thomas Warwick. Again, from Mike Lee's information, "This Mary Lee is reportedly a daughter of Thomas Lee who died in Middlesex 1709." I am quick to say, this is not my personal research and I defer to the diligent research of the people who've provided this information. Respectfully, Judy Younger Hofstetter -----Original Message----- >From: Judy <[email protected]> >Sent: Oct 29, 2006 8:08 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [YOUNGER] sOMETHING FOR jOSHUA yOUNGER DESCENDANTS > >Wilma Hillman, Interesting that you should mention the Lee's in relation to the Ragan's. I guess, I have never sent you (Judy Hoffstetter sent me) a family tree of Mary Agatha Deering. Judy got this family tree from the Kentucky Historical Society, I believe. But up through her line is a John Lee and John Lee, Jr. who I believe is the John Lee who married Becky Thompson. Now I can't say that John Lee is related to the family of Robert E. Lee but it seems to me if Mary Younger Ragan's mother is related to Lee's.....Anyways Judy Hoffstetter is going to hunt up the family tree and get back to you. Another item of interest is that on my Pittman side, and my gg grandfather, Francis Marion married Emma Younger, anyways his grandmother on his mother's side was a Shirley. Now this Shirley Family came from Barren County,KY before they went to McCleansboro, IL. Now I have not determined if this line came from the same line as those from the Shirley Plantation. I was also interested i! > f Belle Starr was from my line, because she married into the Youngers. What I did find is that she is from a different line of Shirley's. There is a Shirley Family Association online, and they have done DNA. My Shirley line has been done. I can't think of the progenitor off hand. I would have to look it up. But Belle Star's exact line had not been done, but somebody on an adjacent line named Valentine Shirley had been done. And that is shown on this web site. I know that a Shirley family did live in Crab Orchard at the same time or around the same time the Youngers lived there. But also of interest is that there was a Shirley family that lived in Orange County, IN which is where Joshua Younger lived before moving to the next county up, where Bedford, IN is. In other family interest, Francis Marion Pittman's brother, Albert Judson Pittman married Sarah Shasteen(Chastein). Her g grandfather being a Jesse Shasteen who came from Wayne County, KY where the Chastein family lived! > on Little Otter Creek.No exact proof that he was a Chastein.But Emma' >s father, John B. Younger came to McCleansboro and married into the Braden family. He married Sara Margaret Reed Braden and his daughter, Florella Devers married Jacob Braden, parents being Albert Braden and Mary Ann Shasteen. Which makes me wonder about the relationship of Sophia Younger Ragan's, second husband Charles Braden. Who was a Minister in Southern Illinois.The Bradens in McCleansboro started several churches. Well, to top this all off Sarah Shasteen's gg grandmother on her mother's side I believe was Katherine Nall m. a George Trout in Nashville and they moved to McCleansboro. I have not determined who her father was. Also, on the Pittman side and I would have to look it up are some Raine or Raines or something similar and I know one of Peter Youngers daughters married a Raines.Now if any of these people relate from the Pittman side to the Ragon's is not known, but it's an interesting thought, although I have not drawn any conclusions due to lack of evidence, oth! > er than they were loosely related and all the names seem to fit. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Re: Lee Judy Foley, Willie Hillman, and all, here is some of the Lee information that I looked at after some of the discussion concerning Lees and our families. Some of our Youngers' ancestors' names are Buford, Montague, Deering/Dearing, and Twyman. Some of the information I’ve found on the following families is from the book: Daniell-Prater Dearing-Twyman Thoden-Hartley-Titshaw, compiled by Alice and Forrest Daniell. (Alice Prater Daniell), publ 1973, Houston, TX. I found this source at Kentucky Historical Library, Frankfort, Kentucky. Another source was Genforum postings on Buford and Lee sites. One assertion of the Buford family is that Thomas Buford (May 21, 1682 – 1761) married Elizabeth Metstand Lee. This has been challenged by Lee researcher Mike Lee of Lynchburg, VA, Genforum posting on Dec 23, 2001. Other names for Elizabeth have been said to be Ball or Johnson. John Lee, dates unknown is shown as one of Aggatha Buford’s husbands. (Aggatha was the daughter of Thomas and Elizabeth mentioned above.) My estimate is that they married after 1736. Aggatha was born Aug 13, 1705 in Middlesex Co., VA; died aft 1785 in Madison Co, VA at son William’s home. I have not found any children from her marriage to John Lee. George Lee is listed as husband of Mary Buford, another daughter of Thomas and Elizabeth. Again referring to Aggatha Buford, her second husband was John Warrick/Warwick/Warlick. He is said to be the son of Thomas Warwick and Mary Lee. Mary Lee was a widow of William Jones when she married Thomas Warwick. Again, from Mike Lee’s information, “This Mary Lee is reportedly a daughter of Thomas Lee who died in Middlesex 1709.” I am quick to say, this is not my personal research and I defer to the diligent research of the people who’ve provided this information. Respectfully, Judy Younger Hofstetter -----Original Message----- >From: Judy <[email protected]> >Sent: Oct 29, 2006 8:08 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [YOUNGER] sOMETHING FOR jOSHUA yOUNGER DESCENDANTS > >Wilma Hillman, Interesting that you should mention the Lee's in relation to the Ragan's. I guess, I have never sent you (Judy Hoffstetter sent me) a family tree of Mary Agatha Deering. Judy got this family tree from the Kentucky Historical Society, I believe. But up through her line is a John Lee and John Lee, Jr. who I believe is the John Lee who married Becky Thompson. Now I can't say that John Lee is related to the family of Robert E. Lee but it seems to me if Mary Younger Ragan's mother is related to Lee's.....Anyways Judy Hoffstetter is going to hunt up the family tree and get back to you. Another item of interest is that on my Pittman side, and my gg grandfather, Francis Marion married Emma Younger, anyways his grandmother on his mother's side was a Shirley. Now this Shirley Family came from Barren County,KY before they went to McCleansboro, IL. Now I have not determined if this line came from the same line as those from the Shirley Plantation. I was also interested ! i! > f Belle Starr was from my line, because she married into the Youngers. What I did find is that she is from a different line of Shirley's. There is a Shirley Family Association online, and they have done DNA. My Shirley line has been done. I can't think of the progenitor off hand. I would have to look it up. But Belle Star's exact line had not been done, but somebody on an adjacent line named Valentine Shirley had been done. And that is shown on this web site. I know that a Shirley family did live in Crab Orchard at the same time or around the same time the Youngers lived there. But also of interest is that there was a Shirley family that lived in Orange County, IN which is where Joshua Younger lived before moving to the next county up, where Bedford, IN is. In other family interest, Francis Marion Pittman's brother, Albert Judson Pittman married Sarah Shasteen(Chastein). Her g grandfather being a Jesse Shasteen who came from Wayne County, KY where the Chastein family live! d! > on Little Otter Creek.No exact proof that he was a Chastein.But Emma' >s father, John B. Younger came to McCleansboro and married into the Braden family. He married Sara Margaret Reed Braden and his daughter, Florella Devers married Jacob Braden, parents being Albert Braden and Mary Ann Shasteen. Which makes me wonder about the relationship of Sophia Younger Ragan's, second husband Charles Braden. Who was a Minister in Southern Illinois.The Bradens in McCleansboro started several churches. Well, to top this all off Sarah Shasteen's gg grandmother on her mother's side I believe was Katherine Nall m. a George Trout in Nashville and they moved to McCleansboro. I have not determined who her father was. Also, on the Pittman side and I would have to look it up are some Raine or Raines or something similar and I know one of Peter Youngers daughters married a Raines.Now if any of these people relate from the Pittman side to the Ragon's is not known, but it's an interesting thought, although I have not drawn any conclusions due to lack of evidence, ot! h! > er than they were loosely related and all the names seem to fit. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

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Brownie and Wilma Hillman, Can you make since of the excerpt of the will on the Richard Lee of Ditchy article about 2/3 way down where it says(1653-1800) by Ida J. Lee. It says"John Lee for Mary and Frances". After trying to figure out who married who it made my eyes glaze over, I'm off of school anyways(I have pink-eye), so they really are glazed over. I'm trying to figure out, as I'm sure you are how John Lee fits in here. At one place in the article (might of been here, he is referred to asColonel John Lee. Right now I can barely remember my name. Obviously too early in the morning.

Brownie, After reading the sketch of Peter Montigue on the www. house of montigue site and reading the Richard Lee of Ditchy piece. They both mention, John Lee with the Montigues. The Peter Montigue, House of Montigue piece, page 26, mentions the will of Phenelope Montigue, wife of Thomas Montigue. Makes a bequeth to her daughter, Catherine.John Lee was an executor with a Sarah Selder, which sounds a lot like Sarah Selden in the Richard Lee of Ditchey piece. Also, on page 31, of the Peter Montigue piece there is information on the Ball family. I'm beginning to wonder if the other Catherine Montague, daughter of Phenelope, could have been the Catherine Montigue who married John Lee, I read through both so fast, I will have to let it all sink in. I'm not sure how Thomas (Phenelope's husband)and it mentions a William, are related to Peter. I e-mailed the Richard Montigue who wrote the article and asked him about John Lee and his relationship.Thanks for finding both great pieces.In the Peter Montigue piece, Catherine Montigue husbands are 1. George Twyman I and 2. Phillip Warwick. No John Lee mentioned.

Judy ,I found the Lee papers I sent you...Tell me what it is exactly you guys are looking for.And I will look it up. I do not have time to scan them all now.But I could do it on Wednesday and send them to any who need them.Just let me know.I will be up late & can read through them real quick and post a reply. Waiting to hear from you,Leni --------------------------------- Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business.

Just little tidbits I've gleaned this afternoon: George Buford3 Twyman (George2, George1) was born March 29, 1731 in Christ Church Parish, Middlesex County, Virginia, was baptized April 04, 1731, Christ Church Parish, Middlesex County, Virginia, and died May 14, 1818 in Albemarle County, Virginia. He married Mary Walker January 11, 1754 in Spotsylvania County, Virginia. She was born January 15, 1733/34 in Middlesex County, Virginia, and died September 24, 1822 in Albemarle County, Virginia and is buried on the Family Farm. Children of George Twyman and Mary Walker are: i. Agatha4 Twyman, b. January 20, 1755, Virginia; d. Abt. 1843, Glascow, Barren County, Kentucky; m. Robert Dearing. Notes for Agatha Twyman: Source of data from web site of Fred J Bianco, Glennis Neuhauser, and web site of Gregory A Raque. Robert and Agatha (Twyman) Dearing moved to Franklin County, Kentucky. History of Albemarle County, Virginia, Rev. Edgar Woods.

Wilma, There is a little data given on this John Lee b. July 5, 1719, Middlesex County, VA. given. One saying that Agatha Buford m. 1. George Twyman 2. John Warwick 3. John Lee. But that seems to have a few people laughing. I don't see any data given on the marriage of John Lee/ Catharine Montigue. But I do see in the list a few Thompson marriages and a lot of Garnets. You know I always wondered how Capt. John W. was mixed up with them. There are some e-mail addresses. I don't know if their current. But I'll try. I talked with Judy Hofstetter. She got this info. I hope she can comment on this (where are you Judy?)I'll send you a copy Wilma, if your interested? ________________________________ From: [email protected] on behalf of Wilma C. Hillman Sent: Mon 10/30/2006 1:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] John Lee Dear Judy, I'm not a nit picker either but the name John is quite common among the Lees. I think what you might explore is "which John Lee is the one who married Catherine Montague". It will not be an easy task because the Lees were prolific and John seems to be a favorite name for them and therefore rather common. I suspect it might be worth it to you. Since your lineage came to you undocumented you might find out even more about the family if you are interested. As you see from the previous message, there is documentation which defines the John Lee who married Elizabeth Thompson. If we could connect the John Lee (married Elizabeth Thompson) to the Robert E Lee family, the descendants of Sarah Younger (daughter of Henry and Ruth Gatch) could claim a relationship to the famous Civil War General but, alack and alas, no such evidence has been forthcoming to this date. I know you are a careful and avid researcher. Who knows what you might reveal to all of us? Willie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 12:20 PM Subject: [YOUNGER] John Lee > Wilma Hillman, I dug out the family tree of Mary Agatha's and I'm a > chicken pecker when it comes to typing, but this is what it says. I'm not > saying it's exact. It's not my work. This is Descendants of Peter > Montigue. > > > 1. Peter Montigue Abt. 1634-1682-1683 m. Elizabeth Morris or Merry > 2nd wife of Peter Montigue m Mary Doodes 1642-Abt. 1682 > > 2. Elizabeth Montigue > 2. Ann Montigue m. John Jadlyn > 2. William Montigue > 2. Catherine/Katherine Montague Abt. 1678-1743 m. John Lee > 2nd husband of Catherine m. George Twyman I Abt. 1661-Bef. > 1701/02 > > 3. Elizabeth Twyman 1670-1715 > 3. George Twyman II 1698-1733/1734 m. Agatha > Buford1705-Abt. 1785 > > 4.Elizabeth Twyman 1726-1727 > 4.William Twyman, Sr. 1727-1811 m. Winifred Cowherd > Abt. 1729 > 2nd. wife of William Twyman, Sr. m. Ann Smith(no > Children) > 4. Catherine Montigue Twyman 1729-Abt.1810 m. Unkown > Dillard > > 4. George Twyman III 1731-1818 m. Mary Walker > 1733/1734-1811 > 5. Agatha Twyman 1755- Bef. 1843 m. Robert > Dearing (1753-1822) > 6.Simeon Dearing m. Barbra Caplinger > 6.Walker Dearing m. Sallie A. McClean > 6 Mary Agatha Dearing 1779-Abt. 1852 m. John W. > Younger > 6. Susanna Dearing m. John Foster > More....But this is as far as I'm typing, Wilma. > I'll send it to you. There is a John Lee, in here. Doesn't look like he > added any offspring to the group. Like I said can't say how accurate this > is. And I don't know if he is in the same family as Robert E. Lee's > family. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/7590/Lee_RobtE.htm Big long and comprehensive chart!

http://houseofmontague.com/Download/HGPM.pdf