Okay...thanks, Judy! :-) Brownie

Brownie, I'm thinking Geoge said a William. But that's been several months back. This Joseph m.Elizabeth Gray(1790) in Wilkes County,NC.He was the one who had the paternity suit against him (1786)and Alexander Gordon was bondsman.His son, Joseph Jr. went to Switzerland County, IN. His son, John married Margaret Southern. ________________________________ From: [email protected] on behalf of [email protected] Sent: Wed 11/8/2006 2:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Joseph Younger Judy, who were Michael and George's Halifax ancestors? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Judy, who were Michael and George's Halifax ancestors?

Oh, Francis, Where did he live in Illinois? And what line do you believe you descend? My g grandfather, John B. Younger, went to McCleansboro, Il (1870's)and there are a couple of Youngers who were there (Hamilton and Saline county)about that time that I could not identify.I can't recall there names. ________________________________ From: [email protected] on behalf of Francis Younger Sent: Wed 11/8/2006 1:40 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Joseph Younger Hi Judy, Thanks for the info. I think some e-mail bounces because of some out-of-date e-mail addresses. Several years ago I changed servers and my e-mail address, but there are places where my old address has not been deleted. The Joseph Younger you reference is not mine. My great great grandfather, Joseph Younger born in Chatham Co. NC about 1805, had many daughters, but only one son, my great grandfather William Younger, who reach adulthood and had children. William was born in IL about 1840, and brought his family to CA in the 1880's Francis Younger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 6:01 AM Subject: [YOUNGER] Joseph Younger > Francis, Didn't I write you once and tell you about Michael Younger of > Florence, KY and George Younger of Louisville? Both who I believe are > descendants of Joseph Younger, if it's the same Joseph Younger, whose son > moved to Switzerland County, IN and his son John Married a Margaret > Southern Hall who had previously been married to Jeff Amos Hall from > Shelbyville, KY. I looked up Jeff Amos Hall this summer when I saw a > family tree of a Woodford Hall that my gggg grandfather Capt. John Younger > from Shelbyville, KY bought and sold land back and forth with. Woodford > had a sister(can't recall her name now), that had marrried Mark Hardin. > Now I was thinking it was possibly Mark Hardin, father of Issac Hardin m. > Amelia Younger Hardin, Capt.. John's sister. I could never make a > connection between Woodford Hall and Jeff Amos Hall, though they were both > in Shelbyville in the early 1800's.But I have talked with both George and > Michael concerning dna testing. Michael wrote an article in! > the F.O.T.Y. book, page 33 and found out about George through Judy > Hoffstetter, who knew him. Michael and George are cousins and both > interested in their family line. I really didn't get to talk to Michael > as he was in the middle of a wedding shower when I called, but he told me > to call him back. I had talked briefly with him before but he was on his > way out of town at that time. But he seemed interested. I talked with > George and found out they were cousins. If this is your line, I would > offer to pay for the dna test for one of the men. I will be glad to send > you their phone numbers. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Francis, Well, I was hoping I had a relative of Michael and George's who could talk them into doing DNA. George said he would think about it and I really haven't talked to Michael but I might call him again. But I'm pretty sure there from the Halifax line or they think so. I just think we need to try to get as many known lines as we can to do DNA. ________________________________ From: [email protected] on behalf of Francis Younger Sent: Wed 11/8/2006 1:40 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Joseph Younger Hi Judy, Thanks for the info. I think some e-mail bounces because of some out-of-date e-mail addresses. Several years ago I changed servers and my e-mail address, but there are places where my old address has not been deleted. The Joseph Younger you reference is not mine. My great great grandfather, Joseph Younger born in Chatham Co. NC about 1805, had many daughters, but only one son, my great grandfather William Younger, who reach adulthood and had children. William was born in IL about 1840, and brought his family to CA in the 1880's Francis Younger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 6:01 AM Subject: [YOUNGER] Joseph Younger > Francis, Didn't I write you once and tell you about Michael Younger of > Florence, KY and George Younger of Louisville? Both who I believe are > descendants of Joseph Younger, if it's the same Joseph Younger, whose son > moved to Switzerland County, IN and his son John Married a Margaret > Southern Hall who had previously been married to Jeff Amos Hall from > Shelbyville, KY. I looked up Jeff Amos Hall this summer when I saw a > family tree of a Woodford Hall that my gggg grandfather Capt. John Younger > from Shelbyville, KY bought and sold land back and forth with. Woodford > had a sister(can't recall her name now), that had marrried Mark Hardin. > Now I was thinking it was possibly Mark Hardin, father of Issac Hardin m. > Amelia Younger Hardin, Capt.. John's sister. I could never make a > connection between Woodford Hall and Jeff Amos Hall, though they were both > in Shelbyville in the early 1800's.But I have talked with both George and > Michael concerning dna testing. Michael wrote an article in! > the F.O.T.Y. book, page 33 and found out about George through Judy > Hoffstetter, who knew him. Michael and George are cousins and both > interested in their family line. I really didn't get to talk to Michael > as he was in the middle of a wedding shower when I called, but he told me > to call him back. I had talked briefly with him before but he was on his > way out of town at that time. But he seemed interested. I talked with > George and found out they were cousins. If this is your line, I would > offer to pay for the dna test for one of the men. I will be glad to send > you their phone numbers. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Wonderful. I'll check when I get home off of this hideous webmail interface at a hotel. Between the two things, e-mail is very difficult. I'm always glad to find more people to participate because we are piecing our families together one dna kit at a time:) Bobbi -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Francis Younger" <[email protected]> I've had my DNA checked as part of the National Geographic Soc. their Genographic Project and those results have been forwarded to our group. My great great grandfather Joseph Younger was born in Chatham Co. NC. Francis Younger ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: Francis Younger ; [email protected] ; [email protected] Cc: Francis Younger Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Lee I would suggest that the NC Younger group find a male to test and then we can say for sure if they are related to the Va. or the Younger Gang group, or perhaps another group, as we do have others as well. Bobbi Estes -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Francis Younger" <[email protected]> > Hi Bette, > I believe that the Youngers in NC came from PA down through the Shenandoah > Valley by way of Harper's Ferry. This would be the same route that Daniel > Boone's family and other Quakers from PA took. If so, they probably would > not be closely related to the Virginia Youngers or the outlaw gang. Also if > John Lee's family were Quakers from PA they would not be closely related to > the Lees of Virginia who were undoubtedly Church of England. > > I would like to know in what part of KY is Crab Orchard located. Is it along > the route across the Cumberland Gap that was opened up by Boone or anywhere > near Booneville? > Fran Younger > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 10:23 AM > Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Lee > > > > Didn't any of these Youngers migrate to NC? My Wm was born in NC and > > family lore was that he was part of Youngers of Crab Orchard, which I > > never could document. Any ideal? > > > > Bette Andres > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 1:12 PM > > Subject: [YOUNGER] Lee > > > > If anyone is interested these is a world of information on the Lee family > > at: _LeeHouse - Anglo-Saxon LEE Genealogy_ > > (http://members.tripod.com/LeeHouse/index2.htm) > > > > I can't vouch for it. My one contribution got messed up and I could > > never > > get it placed properly while the owner was active. The researcher who > > contributed information on Elizabeth (Lee) Younger seems to have felt that > > she > > belonged to descendants of one Samuel Lee of Pennsylvania but didn't > > indicate > > the > > connection. > > > > Pat Finnell > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > > of > > the message > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading > > spam and email virus protection. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Marriages Younger, Aquilla Leonna Jordan 29 Sept. 1812 Jonathan Jordan Younger, James Catherine Bradford 23 Jan. 1855 James Vincent Younger, Joseph Susannah Fitch 15 Jan. 1816 John Tounger Younger, Richard Nancy Ann Horn 3 Nov. 1819 Robt. Younger Younger, Wm. Elizabeth Webb 8 Nov. 1833 Sterling Qualls

Hi Judy, Thanks for the info. I think some e-mail bounces because of some out-of-date e-mail addresses. Several years ago I changed servers and my e-mail address, but there are places where my old address has not been deleted. The Joseph Younger you reference is not mine. My great great grandfather, Joseph Younger born in Chatham Co. NC about 1805, had many daughters, but only one son, my great grandfather William Younger, who reach adulthood and had children. William was born in IL about 1840, and brought his family to CA in the 1880's Francis Younger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 6:01 AM Subject: [YOUNGER] Joseph Younger > Francis, Didn't I write you once and tell you about Michael Younger of > Florence, KY and George Younger of Louisville? Both who I believe are > descendants of Joseph Younger, if it's the same Joseph Younger, whose son > moved to Switzerland County, IN and his son John Married a Margaret > Southern Hall who had previously been married to Jeff Amos Hall from > Shelbyville, KY. I looked up Jeff Amos Hall this summer when I saw a > family tree of a Woodford Hall that my gggg grandfather Capt. John Younger > from Shelbyville, KY bought and sold land back and forth with. Woodford > had a sister(can't recall her name now), that had marrried Mark Hardin. > Now I was thinking it was possibly Mark Hardin, father of Issac Hardin m. > Amelia Younger Hardin, Capt.. John's sister. I could never make a > connection between Woodford Hall and Jeff Amos Hall, though they were both > in Shelbyville in the early 1800's.But I have talked with both George and > Michael concerning dna testing. Michael wrote an article in! > the F.O.T.Y. book, page 33 and found out about George through Judy > Hoffstetter, who knew him. Michael and George are cousins and both > interested in their family line. I really didn't get to talk to Michael > as he was in the middle of a wedding shower when I called, but he told me > to call him back. I had talked briefly with him before but he was on his > way out of town at that time. But he seemed interested. I talked with > George and found out they were cousins. If this is your line, I would > offer to pay for the dna test for one of the men. I will be glad to send > you their phone numbers. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In a message dated 11/8/2006 10:13:34 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > straight down Younger lines with only males and the Younger surname? Unfortunately, that's the only way.

Bobbi, My mother was a Younger and my brother has already been tested for my father's line. Does his test qualify for a Younger test as well or does it have to come straight down Younger lines with only males and the Younger surname? I know this is probably a naive question. Thanks, Martha Welling William A. Younger b. abt. 1815, VA and Elizabeth Martin (my 3rd great grandfather) John T. Younger b. 1839 VA and Mary Frances Walpole Rufus Albert Younger b. 1866 Carroll, TN and Daisy Black Charles Louis Younger b. 1904 Carroll, TN and Ruth Frances McCurdy Martha Jean Younger b. 1928 Memphis, Shelby, TN--my mother

Sorry about the second message. It told me the first one was undeliverable. So I typed it again. I guess it went through Younger Bounces.

Francis, Didn't I write you once and tell you about Michael Younger of Florence, KY and George Younger of Louisville? Both who I believe are descendants of Joseph Younger, if it's the same Joseph Younger, whose son moved to Switzerland County, IN and his son John Married a Margaret Southern Hall who had previously been married to Jeff Amos Hall from Shelbyville, KY. I looked up Jeff Amos Hall this summer when I saw a family tree of a Woodford Hall that my gggg grandfather Capt. John Younger from Shelbyville, KY bought and sold land back and forth with. Woodford had a sister(can't recall her name now), that had marrried Mark Hardin. Now I was thinking it was possibly Mark Hardin, father of Issac Hardin m. Amelia Younger Hardin, Capt.. John's sister. I could never make a connection between Woodford Hall and Jeff Amos Hall, though they were both in Shelbyville in the early 1800's.But I have talked with both George and Michael concerning dna testing. Michael wrote an article in the F.O.T.Y. book, page 33 and found out about George through Judy Hoffstetter, who knew him. Michael and George are cousins and both interested in their family line. I really didn't get to talk to Michael as he was in the middle of a wedding shower when I called, but he told me to call him back. I had talked briefly with him before but he was on his way out of town at that time. But he seemed interested. I talked with George and found out they were cousins. If this is your line, I would offer to pay for the dna test for one of the men. I will be glad to send you their phone numbers.

Francis, Didn't I write and tell you I have talked with two youngers I believe are from your line. A Michael Youger from Florence, KY and a George Younger from Louisville. Have I got the right Younger family? Joseph's son moved to Switzerland County,IN and he had a son John Younger who married a Southern and she second married Amos Hall of Shelbyville, KY? And I was trying to find a connection between Amos Hall of Shelbyville and the Halls from Shelbyville because I had read that Mark Hardin,( father of Isaac and Amelia Younger Hardin, )wife was from a Hall family. But I could not connect Jeff Amos Hall to that family.Now, if I get to Shelbyville and look at the records, I might. Anyways, I believe that if this is your family, let me know, either male would do dna, especially if you offered to pay for the test. Judy Hofstetter knew George and I had called him because she thought he was from our line( cousins of the gang). But George said he had his line done and he was from the Halifax line. And Michael's kind of a busy guy but he'll talk to you, if you can get ahold of him. He did an article that appeared in the F.O.T.Y. on Joseph Younger on page 33. Have I got the right Younger? ________________________________ From: [email protected] on behalf of Francis Younger Sent: Wed 11/8/2006 1:43 AM To: [email protected]; Francis Younger; [email protected] Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Lee I've had my DNA checked as part of the National Geographic Soc. their Genographic Project and those results have been forwarded to our group. My great great grandfather Joseph Younger was born in Chatham Co. NC. Francis Younger ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: Francis Younger ; [email protected] ; [email protected] Cc: Francis Younger Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Lee I would suggest that the NC Younger group find a male to test and then we can say for sure if they are related to the Va. or the Younger Gang group, or perhaps another group, as we do have others as well. Bobbi Estes -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Francis Younger" <[email protected]> > Hi Bette, > I believe that the Youngers in NC came from PA down through the Shenandoah > Valley by way of Harper's Ferry. This would be the same route that Daniel > Boone's family and other Quakers from PA took. If so, they probably would > not be closely related to the Virginia Youngers or the outlaw gang. Also if > John Lee's family were Quakers from PA they would not be closely related to > the Lees of Virginia who were undoubtedly Church of England. > > I would like to know in what part of KY is Crab Orchard located. Is it along > the route across the Cumberland Gap that was opened up by Boone or anywhere > near Booneville? > Fran Younger > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 10:23 AM > Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Lee > > > > Didn't any of these Youngers migrate to NC? My Wm was born in NC and > > family lore was that he was part of Youngers of Crab Orchard, which I > > never could document. Any ideal? > > > > Bette Andres > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 1:12 PM > > Subject: [YOUNGER] Lee > > > > If anyone is interested these is a world of information on the Lee family > > at: _LeeHouse - Anglo-Saxon LEE Genealogy_ > > (http://members.tripod.com/LeeHouse/index2.htm) > > > > I can't vouch for it. My one contribution got messed up and I could > > never > > get it placed properly while the owner was active. The researcher who > > contributed information on Elizabeth (Lee) Younger seems to have felt that > > she > > belonged to descendants of one Samuel Lee of Pennsylvania but didn't > > indicate > > the > > connection. > > > > Pat Finnell > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > > of > > the message > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading > > spam and email virus protection. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've had my DNA checked as part of the National Geographic Soc. their Genographic Project and those results have been forwarded to our group. My great great grandfather Joseph Younger was born in Chatham Co. NC. Francis Younger ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: Francis Younger ; [email protected] ; [email protected] Cc: Francis Younger Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Lee I would suggest that the NC Younger group find a male to test and then we can say for sure if they are related to the Va. or the Younger Gang group, or perhaps another group, as we do have others as well. Bobbi Estes -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Francis Younger" <[email protected]> > Hi Bette, > I believe that the Youngers in NC came from PA down through the Shenandoah > Valley by way of Harper's Ferry. This would be the same route that Daniel > Boone's family and other Quakers from PA took. If so, they probably would > not be closely related to the Virginia Youngers or the outlaw gang. Also if > John Lee's family were Quakers from PA they would not be closely related to > the Lees of Virginia who were undoubtedly Church of England. > > I would like to know in what part of KY is Crab Orchard located. Is it along > the route across the Cumberland Gap that was opened up by Boone or anywhere > near Booneville? > Fran Younger > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 10:23 AM > Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Lee > > > > Didn't any of these Youngers migrate to NC? My Wm was born in NC and > > family lore was that he was part of Youngers of Crab Orchard, which I > > never could document. Any ideal? > > > > Bette Andres > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 1:12 PM > > Subject: [YOUNGER] Lee > > > > If anyone is interested these is a world of information on the Lee family > > at: _LeeHouse - Anglo-Saxon LEE Genealogy_ > > (http://members.tripod.com/LeeHouse/index2.htm) > > > > I can't vouch for it. My one contribution got messed up and I could > > never > > get it placed properly while the owner was active. The researcher who > > contributed information on Elizabeth (Lee) Younger seems to have felt that > > she > > belonged to descendants of one Samuel Lee of Pennsylvania but didn't > > indicate > > the > > connection. > > > > Pat Finnell > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > > of > > the message > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading > > spam and email virus protection. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

I would suggest that the NC Younger group find a male to test and then we can say for sure if they are related to the Va. or the Younger Gang group, or perhaps another group, as we do have others as well. Bobbi Estes -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Francis Younger" <[email protected]> > Hi Bette, > I believe that the Youngers in NC came from PA down through the Shenandoah > Valley by way of Harper's Ferry. This would be the same route that Daniel > Boone's family and other Quakers from PA took. If so, they probably would > not be closely related to the Virginia Youngers or the outlaw gang. Also if > John Lee's family were Quakers from PA they would not be closely related to > the Lees of Virginia who were undoubtedly Church of England. > > I would like to know in what part of KY is Crab Orchard located. Is it along > the route across the Cumberland Gap that was opened up by Boone or anywhere > near Booneville? > Fran Younger > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 10:23 AM > Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Lee > > > > Didn't any of these Youngers migrate to NC? My Wm was born in NC and > > family lore was that he was part of Youngers of Crab Orchard, which I > > never could document. Any ideal? > > > > Bette Andres > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 1:12 PM > > Subject: [YOUNGER] Lee > > > > If anyone is interested these is a world of information on the Lee family > > at: _LeeHouse - Anglo-Saxon LEE Genealogy_ > > (http://members.tripod.com/LeeHouse/index2.htm) > > > > I can't vouch for it. My one contribution got messed up and I could > > never > > get it placed properly while the owner was active. The researcher who > > contributed information on Elizabeth (Lee) Younger seems to have felt that > > she > > belonged to descendants of one Samuel Lee of Pennsylvania but didn't > > indicate > > the > > connection. > > > > Pat Finnell > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > > of > > the message > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading > > spam and email virus protection. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

To All, This is the reply I got from Robert Montigue who wrote the House of Montigue article, which Brownie so graciously gave us. ________________________________ From: Robert V. Montague [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sun 11/5/2006 3:12 PM To: Judy Subject: RE: Peter Montigur Judy: Please accept my apology for this late reply. I knew your questions would take some extra time to consider. I have attached 3 reports of interest to you. This is a draft of raw output from my database (not my book). File Abraham Montague, whose son was the William Montague (#5 in the lineage), shows his son William m. Mrs Lucy Smith, relict of Baldwin Smith. I am terribly embarrased that I did not footnote this statement of her first marriage to Baldwin Smith, and I will have to go back over my sources and cite it before I publish. When I do, I will send to you. [I assure you I did not make it up.] File William (William Latane Montague) who m. Penelope Lee. The intermarriage of Montagues and Lees was prolific and somewhat tedious to keep track of. It all began when Ann Montague m. Philip Lee. Honestly, I have not taken the time to track down the background of all the Lees because my focus has been the 15,000 descendants of Jamestonwe immigrant Peter Montague. File Ann beginning with Ann Montage m. Philip Lee traces all the relationships in my database of Lees and Montagues. It does not just follow the Montague Surname. I would be grateful if you could review these and provide any additional information or corrections on the Montagues and their spouses and children. Of course any sources you have to support those changes is very important. Hope to hear from you again. Thanks for writing. House of Montague www.houseofmontague.com Robert V. Montague 2500 Cypress Point Circle Navarre FL 32566 850-936-0188 "Outgoing email from House of Montague is certified virus-free using Norton SystemWorks 2006 w/auto update." ________________________________ From: Judy [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 11:21 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Peter Montigur Robert, I am a descendant of Mary Agatha Deering and Capt. John W. Younger through George Twyman the I,II and III. George Twyman III m. Mary Walker, their daughter Agatha Twyman m. Robert Deering/Dearing and their daughter is Mary Agatha Dearing Younger, my ggg grandmother. I have read with interest your genealogy on Peter Montigue. On my family tree, it lists a Catherine Montigue m.1. a John Lee 2. George Twyman I 3. Phillip Warwick. I noticed in your genealogy that John Lee is not listed. But on page 26, John Lee is a signer to the will of Phenelope Montique, looks like her husband is Thomas, and in that will is mentioned a Catherine. I know a Lucy Lee Smith married a William Montigue. Can you tell me which William she married? Do you know anything about this John Lee and how he fits into the Lee Family and the Montigue Family? I know the Lee Family liked to have relatives as signers on their documents. This is why I am asking. Capt. John W. Younger is from the same family(Humphrey Younger) of Kent County, MD as Joshua Younger, g grandfather of the Younger "gang" that rode with Jesse James. Now Cole Younger always said that Joshua's first wife was a "Lizzie Lee", a daughter of Lighthorse "Harry" Lee. Well, Lizzie Lee has never been proven, but Capt. John W. had a sister named Mary Younger Ragan, her huband being John Ragan. Their son, Jacob married the niece of Harry"Lighthorse" Lee's second wife, Ann Hill Carter and mother of Robert E. Lee and Jacob's wife was also named Ann Hill Carter. Cole Younger's aunt Sophia m. Tillard Ragon, Jacob's nephew. Now Ann Hill Carter's father was a John Carter (I think John). And he was from the King Carter family that on page 2 or 3 had something to do with the building of the church at Lancaster, I believe and I sawin there William Montigue as a delegate. As you can see all these families are tied together.

Hi Bette, I believe that the Youngers in NC came from PA down through the Shenandoah Valley by way of Harper's Ferry. This would be the same route that Daniel Boone's family and other Quakers from PA took. If so, they probably would not be closely related to the Virginia Youngers or the outlaw gang. Also if John Lee's family were Quakers from PA they would not be closely related to the Lees of Virginia who were undoubtedly Church of England. I would like to know in what part of KY is Crab Orchard located. Is it along the route across the Cumberland Gap that was opened up by Boone or anywhere near Booneville? Fran Younger ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Lee > Didn't any of these Youngers migrate to NC? My Wm was born in NC and > family lore was that he was part of Youngers of Crab Orchard, which I > never could document. Any ideal? > > Bette Andres > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 1:12 PM > Subject: [YOUNGER] Lee > > If anyone is interested these is a world of information on the Lee family > at: _LeeHouse - Anglo-Saxon LEE Genealogy_ > (http://members.tripod.com/LeeHouse/index2.htm) > > I can't vouch for it. My one contribution got messed up and I could > never > get it placed properly while the owner was active. The researcher who > contributed information on Elizabeth (Lee) Younger seems to have felt that > she > belonged to descendants of one Samuel Lee of Pennsylvania but didn't > indicate > the > connection. > > Pat Finnell > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading > spam and email virus protection. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Didn't any of these Youngers migrate to NC? My Wm was born in NC and family lore was that he was part of Youngers of Crab Orchard, which I never could document. Any ideal? Bette Andres -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 1:12 PM Subject: [YOUNGER] Lee If anyone is interested these is a world of information on the Lee family at: _LeeHouse - Anglo-Saxon LEE Genealogy_ (http://members.tripod.com/LeeHouse/index2.htm) I can't vouch for it. My one contribution got messed up and I could never get it placed properly while the owner was active. The researcher who contributed information on Elizabeth (Lee) Younger seems to have felt that she belonged to descendants of one Samuel Lee of Pennsylvania but didn't indicate the connection. Pat Finnell ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.

If anyone is interested these is a world of information on the Lee family at: _LeeHouse - Anglo-Saxon LEE Genealogy_ (http://members.tripod.com/LeeHouse/index2.htm) I can't vouch for it. My one contribution got messed up and I could never get it placed properly while the owner was active. The researcher who contributed information on Elizabeth (Lee) Younger seems to have felt that she belonged to descendants of one Samuel Lee of Pennsylvania but didn't indicate the connection. Pat Finnell

In a message dated 11/3/2006 1:30:13 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > 1719 John Lee born 11 Nov., son of Anthony Lee &Mary Whitaker, who was > the daughter of Charles Whitaker and Sarah Baker. By the way, the above Lees were Quakers in PA.