just different. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Essex, VA records > In a message dated 11/12/2006 12:41:14 PM Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: >> ou're "Lu" now? > > Tee hee...I've always been Lu. My dad named me "LuBrownie"....stupid > name. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I cannot find a record of Susannah Younger having married, but that doesn'tmean there isn't one somewhere.B. MacKie As long as there is no record of her death before reaching maturity or as an oldmaid I am still going to pursue her. In Fact Hers sister Annas Marriage recorded at Christ Church Parish is the only Marriage record I have found for any of Alexander andRebecca's Children. I Can find no Baptismal records for Alexander and Rebecca's children nor can I find any Indication of what Became of Rebecca as a widow.. I spent the netire day at the Archives in Richmond Virginia yesterday and did get a copy of the original will and transcripts of several court transactions for Alexander Younger. Has anyopne else found Parish Records for this family ie Baptisms etc this would secure their birthdates. I feel that per the legal style of the time Susannah was the youngest heir and therefore listed last. I am told James chose his brother Thomas as his Guardian sometime around 1735 but have not seen such record. I have been studying the otehrs mentioned in the will and their migration paths. It Seems Mr Gaines' family Married into The Triplet family who went to Wilkes NC. Can Anyone confirm that Joseph Younger in Wileks Nc was the grandson of Alexander Younger? The Mr Hill mentioned in the will was Leonard Hill(relating to the land purchase). Jerry

Am pretty sure that Susannah died having never married. See what I sent you from Roberta Estes. Brownie On 11/12/06, Mike and Betty <[email protected]> wrote: > > Concerning proof that Susannah was a daughter of Alexander, on July 18, > 2001, part of Wilma Hillmans message was, > > Essex County VA Will Book 5, p. 152,153 > Account for the administration of the estate of Alexander Younger dated > 1727 > This account provides the information that by 1727, Alexander's son John > has died, his daughter Elizabeth has married John Dillard and the widow > Rebecca has remarried to Timothy Driscoll. > > Essex County VA Will Book 5 > p. 119, 120 > 15 Jan 1732 > Thomas Younger is made guardian of Mary and Ann, infant orphans of > Alexander Younger, dec'd. Samuel Gatewood and John Ferguson were > bondsmen with Thomas. The document continues to reveal that he is also > guardian to James Younger. > p. 115, 116 > 19 Dec 1732 > Thomas Younger was made guardian to James, Jannett, and Susannah infant > orphans of Alexander Younger, dec'd. > > > Concerning Susannah marrying John Dillard, on July 26 2001, part of Wilma > Hillmans message was, > > John Dillard married Elizabeth, daughtr of Alexander and Rebecca Mills. As > for > the 1/8th there were eight legatees and Elizabeth or her heirs were > entitled > to > her share. > > I am a strong believer that so many answers are already there if the > information were to be organized and crossreferenced. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wilma Norton" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 12:53 PM > Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] subscribe/Alexander Younger Essex Va > > > > Not that I have anything to back it up, but I have John Dillard married > to > > Elizabeth, Susannah's sister. Willing to be proven wrong. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 9:46 AM > > Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] subscribe/Alexander Younger Essex Va > > > > > >> Two people on Family Search have Susannah Younger marrying John > Dillard. > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I was told to email regarding the Younger's by Wilma Hillman. I was hoping you could provide any new information and a connection to the Younger Gang. My great grandfather was Ethelbert Younger b. 4/9/1891 in Woodford County, Kentucky. His father was Peter Younger, b. 11/9/1859 in Pendleton County, Kentucky to Charles Younger b. ~1821 in Grant County, Kentucky, who was married to Margaret Laughlin. Haven't been able to go any further than this. Again, any new info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Codi Current

In a message dated 11/12/2006 12:41:14 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > ou're "Lu" now? Tee hee...I've always been Lu. My dad named me "LuBrownie"....stupid name.

No, I don't have anything on Essex marriage records. In my file, I noted a source for the children of John Dillard and Elizabeth as "Christ Church Parish Register of Middlesex Co. VA" and just now when I tried to go back and find it again, I can't! Makes me so mad when I don't note the web page address too. I assume it said children of John and Elizabeth, but I can't be for sure. Wish I could find it again! Wilma p.s. You're "Lu" now? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lu MacKie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] subscribe/Alexander Younger Essex Va > As it was not my record that I quoted, I am also willing to be proven > wrong. Perhaps a lack of a record is more telling than one. Do you have > a > marriage record? I can't find my Essex County, VA marriage > records........oh, rot! Luv, Brownie > > On 11/12/06, Wilma Norton <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Not that I have anything to back it up, but I have John Dillard married >> to >> Elizabeth, Susannah's sister. Willing to be proven wrong. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 9:46 AM >> Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] subscribe/Alexander Younger Essex Va >> >> >> > Two people on Family Search have Susannah Younger marrying John >> > Dillard. >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As it was not my record that I quoted, I am also willing to be proven wrong. Perhaps a lack of a record is more telling than one. Do you have a marriage record? I can't find my Essex County, VA marriage records........oh, rot! Luv, Brownie On 11/12/06, Wilma Norton <[email protected]> wrote: > > Not that I have anything to back it up, but I have John Dillard married to > Elizabeth, Susannah's sister. Willing to be proven wrong. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 9:46 AM > Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] subscribe/Alexander Younger Essex Va > > > > Two people on Family Search have Susannah Younger marrying John Dillard. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Not that I have anything to back it up, but I have John Dillard married to Elizabeth, Susannah's sister. Willing to be proven wrong. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] subscribe/Alexander Younger Essex Va > Two people on Family Search have Susannah Younger marrying John Dillard. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Two people on Family Search have Susannah Younger marrying John Dillard.

In a message dated 11/12/2006 8:53:50 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Joseph Younger in Wileks Nc was the grandson of Alexander Younger I don't think anybody knows about Joseph for sure. There's been some debate over that back when the list was more active than it is now. I've been to Halifax County twice and to Richmond three times to do research. My uncle, Dr. Harold Younger now deceased, hired a professional genealogist years ago to go and research information on this family. Her name was Marguerite (sp?)Hutchins. She is now deceased, but I have all her research. One thing you need to know is that people back then sometimes didn't know their own birth dates. They didn't have birthday celebrations, and they didn't keep birth records...or the birth records were destroyed in either the Rev. War or the Civil War. So the possibility of your finding birth records on these people, who have already been researched out the gazoo by many people, is next to zilch...especially the women, who were still considered chattel mostly and were not important in the larger scheme of things except to procreate and bear children. B. MacKie

In a message dated 11/12/2006 8:53:50 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Became of Rebecca as a widow Rebecca married Timothy Driscoll.

I cannot find a record of Susannah Younger having married, but that doesn't mean there isn't one somewhere. B. MacKie

j lynn To subscribe to the mail list, send an email to [email protected] and in the body of the message type the word subscribe and send it. You should receive an email back stating you have been subscribed to the list with instructions on submitting and unsubscribing. To answer your question, yes, Susannah is named in her father's will but as far as I know, no one has an exact birthdate for her. At least I don't. If someone does, please post it. This from Alexander's will: Also my will is that after appraisement made that my estate be equally divided among my other six children to wit: JAMES YOUNGER, ELIZABETH YOUNGER, ANN YOUNGER, MARY YOUNGER, JANNETT YOUNGER, and SUSANNAH YOUNGER, All messages have to be sent in "plain text" as opposed to html. Wilma Norton From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 10:00 AM Subject: [YOUNGER] subscribe/Alexander Younger Essex Va Please subscribe me to the list Name: Alexander YOUNGER <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> · Given Name: Alexander · Surname: Younger · Sex: M · Birth: 02May1681 in Glasgow,<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Lanark,Scotland · Death: 18July1727 in Essex co.Va. I would like to know if Alexander Youngers will dated 1727 in Essex Virginia names his daughter Susannah and if so does anyone have an exact birthdate for ehr as I have seen a fluctuation from 1710-1725 for her. I believe Susannah Younger may have married Thomas Pinion(Pennell) and migrated to Surry County Nc and later resided in Wilkes NC. Reuben Pinion(Pennell) a son of Thomas and Suzannah named his son Younger Pinion John Pinion(Pennell) the youngest child of Thomas and Susannah named a son Alexander Pinion. (I think these boys were named for Alexander Younger) Reuben Pinion Revolutionary Pension application states he was born in Virginia in 1752 Joesph Younger a grandson of Alexander Younger resided in Surry and then Wilkes Nc not far from many of The Pinion/Pennels. Others have erroneously reported Thoams Pinions wife to have been Suzannah Tyree but it was Thomas and Suzannahs Son Ellis Pinion who married suzannah Tyree the daughter of John and Frances Vowell Tyree . Some have alleged Suzannah Tyree wife of Thomas was then a sister of John Tyree but he had no sister named Susan or Susannah. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Patricia... This is my line you and Robert and talking about. I would be interested in copies of whatever papers you may have in reference. And you are correct in that the MD Alexander was not the same Alexander as the Essex County, Va one. Brownie MacKie

I forgot to respond to one other piece of information in your question. I don't think that the Alexander Younger in Maryland 1675 is the same man as Alexander of Essex County 1699. There are several court entries in Essex Co records 1699-1707 regarding Alexander Younger and the headright issued for his importation as a servant. He is first mentioned by Edward Rowzee in 1699 as 18 years old. These headright certificates for land were as good as cash and were sold, traded, and spent as cash. It appears that in 1707 Alexander had received his own headright and then sold it (he had now finished his period of servitude, thus in essence paid his transportation and was now due his own headright from the crown). Perhaps he didn't like the land that was available in Essex Co - poor pickings by now, needed money, or had already contracted to buy or rent some land. Affidavit with proof was made to the court that a person was due a headright. This information was sent to the secretary of the colony who issued the headright certificate Sometimes the owners of these headrights registered the certificates for insurance. However, like everything else, there was a charge for registering a document, and many documents were never registered because of this. Pat Finnell

The land you refer to purchased by Alexander Younger was from "Leonard Hill, Gent. of South Farnham parish in the county of Essex in this colony of Virginia, attorney general for George Coppel Moravia of ye city of London, and Richard Jones planter of ye same of ye one part and Alexander Younger, planter of ye forsesaid parish and party of ye other part." The signatures are Richard (seal) Jones and Leo: Hill (seal). This is in the old English script and spelling -- very very difficult to try to decipher. Regarding the guardianships of Alexander's children. Thomas Younger was appointed guardian of James Younger 16 December 1732. He was appointed guardian of Janett and Susannah Younger 19 December 1732, Mary Younger 16 January 1732, and of Ann Younger in a separate action 16 January 1732. He and co signers posted bonds one hundred pounds for James, three hundred pounds for Janett and Susannah, and one hundred fifty pounds each for Mary and Ann. To me that says that brother John was dead already and that his land had reverted to James. Since half the land now constituted most of James' inheritance, less security was required. I may be entirely wrong in my interpretation. But we do know that John's death was reported to the court Aug 1733 in Rebecca Younger and Timothy Driscoll's final accounting. Any other later accounting by Thomas may have been filed in K & Q County. What I don't have an explanation for is that the children who received the land were not to share in the personal estate but there were supposedly eight shares in August 1733. Pat Finnell

In a message dated 11/10/2006 10:24:15 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Somerset, MD, 7 Jun 1675; Alexander Younger of this County proved his > rights to 100 acres of land for transporting himself and James Morrice, his > servant, into this providence to inhabit from the Early Settlers of MD > Alexander was testator of the will of John Parrimore of Pocketty Norton, 6 > Feb 1675 Alexander is named as the overseer of the manorial holdings of > George Beckwith, known as St Joseph Manor on the Patoxent, in 1676 Not same Alexander as the other.

_____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 9:45 AM To: [email protected] Subject: subscribe me please Does anyone know which Mr Hill of Essex county that Alexander Younger bought his land from? I ask because several of The Hills from Essex migrated to Surry County Nc and Two of the Hills were Wintesses to Benjamin Paniel(Pinions 1779 will in Surry Nc. I belive that suzannah wife of said Benjamin was a Hill and I believe Benjamins daughter Thomas was married to Susannah Younger the daughter of Alexander and Rebecca Younger . I also would like an opinion. When I read this will I get the idea that thomas is the only Child not still a Minor. I also feel that Susannah is listed last as she is the youngest child. I believe she was born Circa 1718-1720. I have read that Thomas Younger was made the guardian of his Brotehr James in 1735. Does anyone know who Susannah's guardian was?? !DEATH:Essex Co., VA Will, w/s 11 Aug 1725, w/p 18 Jul 1727 !Pioneers of Pettis, by Genevieve Carter The Early Settlers of MD by G Spardas MD Calendar of Wills; vol. 1, pg 173. The Flowering of the MD Palantinate, by H W Newmand Information from Shirley Coffey, 423 E 200 N, Blackfoot, ID 83221 !Pages 222-223. Will of Alexander Younger of the County of Essex, being of sick and weak of body, dated 11 Aug 1725. Unto the three poorest objects of pity in the parish thrity shillings in such things as may answer their wants to be paid within one year of my decease. Unto my son Thomas Younger that piece of land that I bought of Mr Hill and Richard Jones, a young heiffer called Fair Made and her female increase and if she happens to be barren and no breeder then to have a young cow out of my own proper stock of chattel and if she should dye to have another cow in her room, L 6 current, and that gun which I bought of Capt Welch. Unto my son John Younger that piece of land I bought of Mary Newton, two young cows ont of my proper stock, L 6 current and his choice of my other two guns. If either of my two sons Thomas or John dye without issue then their land, mony, and gun fall to my son James Younger and if both should dye then his part to fall to the eldest female alive, only my will is that the child in whose hands any of the boys' lands falls too the other part of their estate shall be equally divided amongst the rest then alive. The two eldest then alive of the female kind if the male be all dead should inheritt the land. My estate be equally divided amongst my other 6 children James Younger, Eliza. Younger, Ann Younger, Mary Younger, Jannett Younger, and Susanna Younger. If any of them dies without issue their part to be divided amongst the rest then alive. If my well beloved wife Rebecca Younger should happen to join in wedlock state after my decease the boys should be for themselves at the age of seventeen years old and if she continues my widow then to remain till the years of twenty one. If it should please God to remove all my issue by death then my land and personall estate be secured for my next heir in Scotland of my brother Andrew's , only my wife to have the liberty of the same all her days in a moderate way to live upon. The executors, my welbeloved wife Rebecca Younger and my son Thomas Younger. Alexr. Younger Wit: John Haille, Bryant Edmondson, Francis (X) Kile. 18 Jul 1727. Proved by Rebecca Younger and by John Haille and Bryant Edmondson. Pages 223-224. Bond of Rebecca Younger as executrix of Alexander Younger. Unto William Daingerfield, Benjamin Robinson, John Taliaferro, and Nicholas Smith, Gent., justices. For L 300 sterling. 18 Jul 1727. Securities, Thomas Covington and Richard Jones. Rebecca (R) Younger Thos Covington Richard Jones Wit: W Henry Terrett 18 Jul 1727. Acknowledged Pages 226-227 Mr Alexander Younger. Inventory. Made in obedience to order of 18 Jul 1727. Total valuation L157.12.10., including one Negro man valued at L 25. Signed by Rebecca Younger. John Haile Wm Gatewood Henry (H B) Boughan Settlements if Essex Co., VA Pages 319-320. 12 Aug 1721. Mary Newton of King William County to Alexander Younger of Essex County. For 1500 pounds of sweet tobacco. 120 acres in Southfarnham Parish...on the line of Fra. Browne on the north, of the land of James Edmondson on the east, the land of Robert Farish on the south and the land of Alexandr. Younger on the west. Mary (M) Newton !Somerset, MD, 7 Jun 1675; Alexander Younger of this County proved his rights to 100 acres of land for transporting himself and James Morrice, his servant, into this providence to inhabit from the Early Settlers of MD Alexander was testator of the will of John Parrimore of Pocketty Norton, 6 Feb 1675 Alexander is named as the overseer of the manorial holdings of George Beckwith, known as St Joseph Manor on the Patoxent, in 1676

Please subscribe me to the list Name: Alexander YOUNGER <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> · Given Name: Alexander · Surname: Younger · Sex: M · Birth: 02May1681 in Glasgow,<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Lanark,Scotland · Death: 18July1727 in Essex co.Va. I would like to know if Alexander Youngers will dated 1727 in Essex Virginia names his daughter Susannah and if so does anyone have an exact birthdate for ehr as I have seen a fluctuation from 1710-1725 for her. I believe Susannah Younger may have married Thomas Pinion(Pennell) and migrated to Surry County Nc and later resided in Wilkes NC. Reuben Pinion(Pennell) a son of Thomas and Suzannah named his son Younger Pinion John Pinion(Pennell) the youngest child of Thomas and Susannah named a son Alexander Pinion. (I think these boys were named for Alexander Younger) Reuben Pinion Revolutionary Pension application states he was born in Virginia in 1752 Joesph Younger a grandson of Alexander Younger resided in Surry and then Wilkes Nc not far from many of The Pinion/Pennels. Others have erroneously reported Thoams Pinions wife to have been Suzannah Tyree but it was Thomas and Suzannahs Son Ellis Pinion who married suzannah Tyree the daughter of John and Frances Vowell Tyree . Some have alleged Suzannah Tyree wife of Thomas was then a sister of John Tyree but he had no sister named Susan or Susannah.

Hi Judy, Joseph Younger and his family, including my great grandfather, are listed in the 1850 US Census for IL in Sangamon Co. There is a son, Joseph (age 12), listed there, but he died young with no heirs. William is the only male son who had children. Joseph's father was Thomas Younger. I'm not sure who Thomas's father was. Any input, anyone?? Francis Younger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy" <[email protected]> To: "Francis Younger" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Joseph Younger > Oh, Francis, Where did he live in Illinois? And what line do you believe > you descend? My g grandfather, John B. Younger, went to McCleansboro, Il > (1870's)and there are a couple of Youngers who were there (Hamilton and > Saline county)about that time that I could not identify.I can't recall > there names. > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] on behalf of Francis Younger > Sent: Wed 11/8/2006 1:40 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Joseph Younger > > > > Hi Judy, > Thanks for the info. I think some e-mail bounces because of some > out-of-date e-mail addresses. Several years ago I changed servers and my > e-mail address, but there are places where my old address has not been > deleted. > The Joseph Younger you reference is not mine. My great great grandfather, > Joseph Younger born in Chatham Co. NC about 1805, had many daughters, but > only one son, my great grandfather William Younger, who reach adulthood > and > had children. William was born in IL about 1840, and brought his family > to > CA in the 1880's > Francis Younger > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judy" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 6:01 AM > Subject: [YOUNGER] Joseph Younger > > >> Francis, Didn't I write you once and tell you about Michael Younger of >> Florence, KY and George Younger of Louisville? Both who I believe are >> descendants of Joseph Younger, if it's the same Joseph Younger, whose son >> moved to Switzerland County, IN and his son John Married a Margaret >> Southern Hall who had previously been married to Jeff Amos Hall from >> Shelbyville, KY. I looked up Jeff Amos Hall this summer when I saw a >> family tree of a Woodford Hall that my gggg grandfather Capt. John >> Younger >> from Shelbyville, KY bought and sold land back and forth with. Woodford >> had a sister(can't recall her name now), that had marrried Mark Hardin. >> Now I was thinking it was possibly Mark Hardin, father of Issac Hardin m. >> Amelia Younger Hardin, Capt.. John's sister. I could never make a >> connection between Woodford Hall and Jeff Amos Hall, though they were >> both >> in Shelbyville in the early 1800's.But I have talked with both George and >> Michael concerning dna testing. Michael wrote an article in! >> the F.O.T.Y. book, page 33 and found out about George through Judy >> Hoffstetter, who knew him. Michael and George are cousins and both >> interested in their family line. I really didn't get to talk to Michael >> as he was in the middle of a wedding shower when I called, but he told me >> to call him back. I had talked briefly with him before but he was on his >> way out of town at that time. But he seemed interested. I talked with >> George and found out they were cousins. If this is your line, I would >> offer to pay for the dna test for one of the men. I will be glad to send >> you their phone numbers. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >