Brownie, Are you talking about William Armstead Younger son of Armistead Younger and Rebecca Crews.b 12/26/08 West Virginia m. Margaret Coop. both buried in Stone County? Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilma (Younger) Norton" <wilma.norton@cox.net> To: <younger@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Armistead Younger or William Armistead Younger > Brownie, it's still possible he did have that first name of William, but > the > Stone County Genealogical Society who did a whole lot of work on him and > his > line never suggested that he was a William Armistead. Or it could be that > whoever gave the information for the death certificate gave "oral history" > or made an assumption.....no way to know now. > > Wilma > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Mbmackie1231@aol.com> > To: <younger@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:23 AM > Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Armistead Younger or William Armistead Younger > > >> That what I was questioning, because on the Texas Death Certificate the >> name >> of the father is written as "William Armistead Younger". But then >> "Crews" >> is spelled "Cruz" and Camilla is spelled "Cannta." >> >> Just shows to go ya. >> Brownie >> >> >> >> **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial >> challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, >> tips >> and >> calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

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Hi Pat, That doesn't pertain to Marcus situation since he would have been the youngest or one of the youngest children. The fact that there was no guardian appointed for him was the nail in the coffin, not the will itself. Bobbi -----Original Message----- From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PatriciaFinnell@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 2:39 PM To: younger@rootsweb.com Subject: [YOUNGER] Marcus Younger son of Alexander ? I slammed a door a few days ago on the possibility of Marcus of King and Queen Co being unnamed son of Alexander (d. c 1726) in his will. I was way off base. I have to reopen that door a bit. If any owned land was not specifically disposed of in a will it fell under the laws of primogeniture and automatically went to the first legal heir. These primogeniture laws were replaced in the 1780s. If you all haven't read the wonderful book "A Place in Time" by Darrett and Anita Rutman, it is well worth the expense of acquiring it (look on Amazon.com or any of the big listers of used books) and the time to read and study it. It is a study of life in Middlesex Co VA 1650-1750. The explicatus that may be offered for this study is not useful for a genealogist's purposes. Pat Finnell **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I slammed a door a few days ago on the possibility of Marcus of King and Queen Co being unnamed son of Alexander (d. c 1726) in his will. I was way off base. I have to reopen that door a bit. If any owned land was not specifically disposed of in a will it fell under the laws of primogeniture and automatically went to the first legal heir. These primogeniture laws were replaced in the 1780s. If you all haven't read the wonderful book "A Place in Time" by Darrett and Anita Rutman, it is well worth the expense of acquiring it (look on Amazon.com or any of the big listers of used books) and the time to read and study it. It is a study of life in Middlesex Co VA 1650-1750. The explicatus that may be offered for this study is not useful for a genealogist's purposes. Pat Finnell **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

According to my research notes, the James Younger who married Harriett Garr was not the son of Isaac & Ellen Younger. They did not have a son named James. Here are notes for Isaac & Ellen Younger: (Isaac, son of Henry & Ruth (Gatch) Younger and Ellen, daughter of Kennard & Elizabeth (Cambren/on) Younger 1. "A list of the names and ages of Henry & Ruth Gatch Younger's children born in Kentucky:.....Isaac Younger born Nov. 30, 1801 (moved to Vermillion Co., Indiana; md. his first cousin.)" (Younger Family Bible Records. 1980 Ky Ancestors V16-1. p. 37) 2. Isaac Younger md. Miss Ellen Younger 4 Nov 1822 (license) (Bullitt co. Marriage Registry. FHL film #4872690) 3. Isaac Younger (jr.) on Bullitt Co. tax lists from 1821 to 1847 (tax books missing 1848-49). He is taxed for 100 acres on Crooked Creek 1838 to 1841. He owned 1 slave from 1844 to 1847. (tax books missing for 1843 and 1848-9) Number of children corresponds with group sheet. 4. Kentucky 1830 census - Isaac Younger - Bullitt Co. free white males <5 (1825-30) 1 (Charles W.) 5-10 (1820-25) 1 (James) 20-30 (1800-10) 1 (Isaac) females <5 (1825-30) 1 (Louisa Jane) 5-10 (1820-25) 1 (Eilzabeth) 20-30 (1800-10) 1 (Ellen) 5. Kentucky 1840 census - Isaac Younger - Bullitt Co. free white males 5-10 (1830-35) 1 (John) 10-15 (1825-30) 1 (Charles W.) 15-20 (1820-25) 1 (James) 30-40 (1800-10) 1 (Isaac) females <5 (1835-40) 1 (Angeline) 5-10 (1830-35) 1 (Martha) 30-40 (1800-10) 1 (Ellen) 6. Vermillion Co. Ind. 1850 census: 198 Isaac Younger 50m farmer Ky Ellen 50f " John 20m " Angeline 14f " John Watson 10m " Clinton Township 24 Oct 1850 7. Isaac Younger died in 1874 in Paris, Edgar, Illinois, and is buried in Spangler Cemetery Vermillion Co. Indiana. (from Archive record submitted by Louisa Dragoo Irving, Box 159, Barnwell, Alberta, Canada.) The following are notes for James Younger who married Harriet Garr: , he was the son of Ebenezer (son of Kennard) and Lydia (Crigler) Younger: 1. James Younger md Harriet Garr dau of Ben Garr Dec. 20 Nov 1845 by R.W. Deats Justice of Peace Bullitt Co. (Bullitt Co. Marriage Registry. FHL film #482690) 2. Bullitt Co. 1850 census: 590 James Younger 29 m farmer 590 Ky Illit. Harriet 22 f KY Illit. Ellen 4 f Ky Rebecca Gaar 16 f KY 3. Bullitt Co. 1860 census: 445 Jas. Younger 39 m farmer --$250 Ky crw H. " 30 f KY E. " 14 f " J.W. " 9 m " L. " 7 f " B. " 5 m " Shepherdsville Aug 13, 1860 4. Bullitt Co. 1870 census: 292 James Younger 52 mw farmer $1000-$350 Ky Harriet " 48fw keeping house KY Ellen " 22 fw at home " John W. " 18 mw " Birhead? " 17 mw " Lydia " 16 fw " James " 5 mw " Edward Garr 52 mw laborer " Pine Tavern Dist. Bardstown July 15, 1870 5. Bullitt Co. 1880 census: James Younger wm 59 father md works farm KyKyKy H. Younger wf 45 wife KyKyKy J.W. " wm 29 son single " " " J.B. " wm 24 son " " " " J.B. " wm 15 son " " " " Leuellen " wf 30 dau " " " " L.A. " wf 24 dau " " " " Pine Tavern Dist. e.d.26 #16 6. James Younger appears on Bullitt Co. tax list from 1844 to 1867 (end of extraction). He is taxed for 100 acres unspecified 1864 to 1866. The number of children as given in the tax list corresponds with that reflected on the group record. Joseph B. Younger who married Amanda Hazzard was the informant on his son Warren's death certificate 14 April 1915 (Bullitt Co.). He signed his name "Bert" Younger and gave Bert Younger as father, Mindie Hazard for mother of Warren. Joseph B. Younger is named J. Bert Younger on his own death certificate 22 November 1923 (Jefferson County). ----- Original Message ----- From: "JudyFoley" <judyfoley@peoplepc.com> To: <katsus19@yahoo.co.uk>; <younger@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Youngers of BirKenhead >I got to thinking about the name and remembered a very similiar name in the >family of Isaac Younger of Bullitt County, seems he moved to >Illinois.Birkhead Younger. Always struck me as a strange name. Below is >from www.rootsweb.com. I put in Birkhead Younger.• ID: I52694 > • Name: James Younger > • Sex: M > • Birth: ABT 1823 in Bullitt Co, Kentucky > • Note: > Note: 1850 Bullitt Co, KY Census > > James YOUNGER 29m farmer > Harriett 22 f > Ellen 4f > Rebeca ? 16 f > > NOTES: James YOUNGER m. Harriet GARR Nov. 19, 1845. He was s/o Isaac > YOUNGER and Eleanor YOUNGER ( they were cousins ) Harriett is the daughter > of Benjamin Garr and the sister of Rebecca Garr (16f). Benjamin Garr was > deceased by the time Harriett married. > > James and Harriett Younger had Luellen (ca. 1846), John W. (ca. 1851), > Lydia Ann (ca. 1852), Joseph Birkhead (ca. 1855), and James B. (ca. 1865). > Lydia Ann Younger married Isaac Noe on 4 Jul 1882. Joseph Birkhead Younger > married Amanda Hazzard on 31 Jan 1887. Rebecca Garr married Jefferson > Younger (b. ca. 1840) on 28 Jul 1861, Bullitt Co. > • Change Date: 20 JAN 2008 > > Father: Isaac Younger b: 30 NOV 1801 in Bullitt Co, Kentucky > Mother: Eleanor Younger b: 13 MAY 1802 in Kentucky > > Marriage 1 Harriett Garr b: ABT 1828 in Kentucky > • Married: 19 NOV 1845 in Bullitt Co, Kentucky > Children > 1. Joseph Birkhead Younger b: ABT 1855 in Bullitt Co, Kentucky > > > > Seems pretty logical that name could have come from Birkenhead. What kind > of stories have you heard that you weren't sure to be proved or disproved? > Such as a relative of the Younger "gang" by chance? > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Geoff Rowland <katsus19@yahoo.co.uk> >>Sent: Sep 29, 2008 12:42 PM >>To: YOUNGER@rootsweb.com >>Subject: [YOUNGER] Youngers of BirKenhead >> >>Is anybody else out there in Rootsweb-land interested in the YOUNGER >>family from Birkenhead. >> >>In the 1881 census they were the only family of that name in >>Birkenhead. My grandmother Ethel, a schoolteacher, was born two years >>later Ethel 13 April 1883. She married my grandfather Samuel Rowland in >>1920 and died in Churton by Aldford 23 Dec 1941. There are several >>stories about her and her family which we have been unable to confirm >>or disprove and are now looking for anybody else who is researching >>them. >> >> >> >>In hope, >> >> >> >>Geoff Rowland

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That what I was questioning, because on the Texas Death Certificate the name of the father is written as "William Armistead Younger". But then "Crews" is spelled "Cruz" and Camilla is spelled "Cannta." Just shows to go ya. Brownie **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

Is older brother, my line, was William b1803 - do many William's .... Mark Younger CFM Director Facilities Administration Hilton Hotels Corporation Memphis Operations/Data Center 755 Crossover Lane Memphis ,TN 38117 Tel: 901 374-5458 Fax :901 374-5458 -----Original Message----- From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Wilma (Younger) Norton Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:29 AM To: younger@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Armistead Younger or William Armistead Younger Thanks, Bob. I had never attached "William" to his name and didn't know where that came from. I think it was a question of whether this could be another William or not, but don't remember for sure. Wilma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob & Beverly Younger" <byounger@centurytel.net> To: <younger@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Armistead Younger or William Armistead Younger > Wilma & Brownie > > James Williamson Younger, b July 4, 1844 d. July 2, 1930 wife Camillia > Haney, b. 1853 Arkansas, d. 1888, probably buried in Stone County > Arkansas. > His father is Armistead, not Wiliam Armistead. He is buried in Conner > Cemetary, Dike, Hopkins County, TX. > > Bob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wilma (Younger) Norton" <wilma.norton@cox.net> > To: <younger@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 4:34 PM > Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Armistead Younger or William Armistead Younger > > >> His wife was Camilla Haney, son was Harvey Mack Younger, born Feb 2, 1882 >> Stone Co. AR, died Nov 3, 1960, Hopkins Co. TX >> >> Wilma >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <Mbmackie1231@aol.com> >> To: <Younger@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 4:02 PM >> Subject: [YOUNGER] Armistead Younger or William Armistead Younger >> >> >>>I have a TX State Dept. of Health Certificate of Death on James >>>Williamson >>> Younger, Hopkins County TX, precinct 5. Date of Death July 21, 1930. He >>> was >>> an 86 year old widower; wife's name Cannta (?). His date of birth is >>> July 4, >>> 1844. Father WILLIAM ARMISTEAD YOUNGER; Mother REBECCA CRUZ. His >>> birth >>> place is Virginia. Harvey Younger was informant; Dike, TX. >>> >>> The above James Williamson was not my James Williamson. The above >>> William >>> Armistead is obviously Armistead/Rebecca Crews Younger. Could this be >>> yet >>> another "WILLIAM" ? I'll have to look up Harvey. I just thought >>> somebody might >>> be interested. >>> >>> Brownie >>> >>> >>> >>> **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial >>> challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, >>> tips >>> and >>> calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Brownie, it's still possible he did have that first name of William, but the Stone County Genealogical Society who did a whole lot of work on him and his line never suggested that he was a William Armistead. Or it could be that whoever gave the information for the death certificate gave "oral history" or made an assumption.....no way to know now. Wilma ----- Original Message ----- From: <Mbmackie1231@aol.com> To: <younger@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Armistead Younger or William Armistead Younger > That what I was questioning, because on the Texas Death Certificate the > name > of the father is written as "William Armistead Younger". But then > "Crews" > is spelled "Cruz" and Camilla is spelled "Cannta." > > Just shows to go ya. > Brownie > > > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips > and > calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Bob. I had never attached "William" to his name and didn't know where that came from. I think it was a question of whether this could be another William or not, but don't remember for sure. Wilma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob & Beverly Younger" <byounger@centurytel.net> To: <younger@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Armistead Younger or William Armistead Younger > Wilma & Brownie > > James Williamson Younger, b July 4, 1844 d. July 2, 1930 wife Camillia > Haney, b. 1853 Arkansas, d. 1888, probably buried in Stone County > Arkansas. > His father is Armistead, not Wiliam Armistead. He is buried in Conner > Cemetary, Dike, Hopkins County, TX. > > Bob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wilma (Younger) Norton" <wilma.norton@cox.net> > To: <younger@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 4:34 PM > Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Armistead Younger or William Armistead Younger > > >> His wife was Camilla Haney, son was Harvey Mack Younger, born Feb 2, 1882 >> Stone Co. AR, died Nov 3, 1960, Hopkins Co. TX >> >> Wilma >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <Mbmackie1231@aol.com> >> To: <Younger@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 4:02 PM >> Subject: [YOUNGER] Armistead Younger or William Armistead Younger >> >> >>>I have a TX State Dept. of Health Certificate of Death on James >>>Williamson >>> Younger, Hopkins County TX, precinct 5. Date of Death July 21, 1930. He >>> was >>> an 86 year old widower; wife's name Cannta (?). His date of birth is >>> July 4, >>> 1844. Father WILLIAM ARMISTEAD YOUNGER; Mother REBECCA CRUZ. His >>> birth >>> place is Virginia. Harvey Younger was informant; Dike, TX. >>> >>> The above James Williamson was not my James Williamson. The above >>> William >>> Armistead is obviously Armistead/Rebecca Crews Younger. Could this be >>> yet >>> another "WILLIAM" ? I'll have to look up Harvey. I just thought >>> somebody might >>> be interested. >>> >>> Brownie >>> >>> >>> >>> **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial >>> challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, >>> tips >>> and >>> calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Wilma & Brownie James Williamson Younger, b July 4, 1844 d. July 2, 1930 wife Camillia Haney, b. 1853 Arkansas, d. 1888, probably buried in Stone County Arkansas. His father is Armistead, not Wiliam Armistead. He is buried in Conner Cemetary, Dike, Hopkins County, TX. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilma (Younger) Norton" <wilma.norton@cox.net> To: <younger@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Armistead Younger or William Armistead Younger > His wife was Camilla Haney, son was Harvey Mack Younger, born Feb 2, 1882 > Stone Co. AR, died Nov 3, 1960, Hopkins Co. TX > > Wilma > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Mbmackie1231@aol.com> > To: <Younger@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 4:02 PM > Subject: [YOUNGER] Armistead Younger or William Armistead Younger > > >>I have a TX State Dept. of Health Certificate of Death on James Williamson >> Younger, Hopkins County TX, precinct 5. Date of Death July 21, 1930. He >> was >> an 86 year old widower; wife's name Cannta (?). His date of birth is >> July 4, >> 1844. Father WILLIAM ARMISTEAD YOUNGER; Mother REBECCA CRUZ. His >> birth >> place is Virginia. Harvey Younger was informant; Dike, TX. >> >> The above James Williamson was not my James Williamson. The above >> William >> Armistead is obviously Armistead/Rebecca Crews Younger. Could this be >> yet >> another "WILLIAM" ? I'll have to look up Harvey. I just thought >> somebody might >> be interested. >> >> Brownie >> >> >> >> **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial >> challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, >> tips >> and >> calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I got to thinking about the name and remembered a very similiar name in the family of Isaac Younger of Bullitt County, seems he moved to Illinois.Birkhead Younger. Always struck me as a strange name. Below is from www.rootsweb.com. I put in Birkhead Younger.• ID: I52694 • Name: James Younger • Sex: M • Birth: ABT 1823 in Bullitt Co, Kentucky • Note: Note: 1850 Bullitt Co, KY Census James YOUNGER 29m farmer Harriett 22 f Ellen 4f Rebeca ? 16 f NOTES: James YOUNGER m. Harriet GARR Nov. 19, 1845. He was s/o Isaac YOUNGER and Eleanor YOUNGER ( they were cousins ) Harriett is the daughter of Benjamin Garr and the sister of Rebecca Garr (16f). Benjamin Garr was deceased by the time Harriett married. James and Harriett Younger had Luellen (ca. 1846), John W. (ca. 1851), Lydia Ann (ca. 1852), Joseph Birkhead (ca. 1855), and James B. (ca. 1865). Lydia Ann Younger married Isaac Noe on 4 Jul 1882. Joseph Birkhead Younger married Amanda Hazzard on 31 Jan 1887. Rebecca Garr married Jefferson Younger (b. ca. 1840) on 28 Jul 1861, Bullitt Co. • Change Date: 20 JAN 2008 Father: Isaac Younger b: 30 NOV 1801 in Bullitt Co, Kentucky Mother: Eleanor Younger b: 13 MAY 1802 in Kentucky Marriage 1 Harriett Garr b: ABT 1828 in Kentucky • Married: 19 NOV 1845 in Bullitt Co, Kentucky Children 1. Joseph Birkhead Younger b: ABT 1855 in Bullitt Co, Kentucky Seems pretty logical that name could have come from Birkenhead. What kind of stories have you heard that you weren't sure to be proved or disproved? Such as a relative of the Younger "gang" by chance? -----Original Message----- >From: Geoff Rowland <katsus19@yahoo.co.uk> >Sent: Sep 29, 2008 12:42 PM >To: YOUNGER@rootsweb.com >Subject: [YOUNGER] Youngers of BirKenhead > >Is anybody else out there in Rootsweb-land interested in the YOUNGER family from Birkenhead. > >In the 1881 census they were the only family of that name in >Birkenhead. My grandmother Ethel, a schoolteacher, was born two years >later Ethel 13 April 1883. She married my grandfather Samuel Rowland in >1920 and died in Churton by Aldford 23 Dec 1941. There are several >stories about her and her family which we have been unable to confirm >or disprove and are now looking for anybody else who is researching >them. > > > >In hope, > > > >Geoff Rowland > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

Well, It would be great if you knew a Younger who would give DNA for the Younger DNA project on Familytreedna.com/public/Younger. -----Original Message----- >From: Geoff Rowland <katsus19@yahoo.co.uk> >Sent: Sep 29, 2008 1:01 PM >To: YOUNGER@rootsweb.com >Subject: [YOUNGER] Youngers of Birkenhead > >Apologies everybody > >Birkenhead, Cheshire, England > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

I don't know if this will help but this is what I have in my records: SOURCE: This is the role of the parish of Portpatrick above twelve yeirs of age according to my knowledge and subt. be me Master John Calduell, minister therof this day of Oct 1684. M.J. Calduell. The Burgesses and Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573-1750 This is the roll of the parish of Portpatrick above "tuelve yeirs of age" 1639 County: Lanarskshire Country: Scotland Younger, Alexander,weaver, B., as third son to dec'd William Younger, burgess (G.B., as mar. Margaret, dau to dec'd Neill Steinson. B. and G.B., 24 Sep 1646) 31 Oct 1639 The Burgesses and Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573-1750 1656 County: Lanarkshire Country: Scotland David Arnote, weaver, B., as serving appr. with Alexander Younger, weaver 14 Feb 1656 The Burgesses and Guild Brethren of Glasgow, 1573-1750 1665 County: Lanarkshire Country: Scotland James Cllatchie, weaver, B., as serving appr. with Alexander Younger, weaver, burgess (G.B., same right, 14 Jan 1670) 20 Jul 1665 The line seems t be: William and Margreit Fleming Alexander and Margaret Steinsoune Thomas and Anna Smith Alexander and Rebecca Mills Willie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilma (Younger) Norton" <wilma.norton@cox.net> To: <younger@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Mother of Alexander Younger (b.1608)? >I got the name from the Scottish Church Records CD at LDS FHC Ver. 2.00 and > the marriage date from the same source. This is from my Notes: > "I have no proof this is the wife of our William Younger -- I found this > marriage information in the Scottish Church Records CD and have made the > assumption that this information is correct. There was a marriage > recorded > between William Younger and Margreit Fleming on this date, I just can't > prove which William Younger it referred to." > The date is Oct. 26, 1607 and location was "at Inveresk With Musselburgh, > Midlothian, Scotland." The date and location seemed to fit. > > Wilma > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "L S Y" <lsy.genealogy@gmail.com> > To: <younger@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 11:46 AM > Subject: [YOUNGER] Mother of Alexander Younger (b.1608)? > > >>I was showing off the FamilyTreeDNA site and noticed that kit #86386 >> had a mother for Alexander Younger (spouse of William Younger) that I >> hadn't seen before. Many (MANY) moons ago I had the name "Jonat" for >> the wife of William (based on the old "Scottish Church Records" CD at >> the LDS FHC), but I've had the name marked as "doubtful" for a few >> years. The name at FTDNA is "Margareit Fleming." >> >> If someone could point me toward a source for this name, I'd really >> appreciate it. >> >> Thanks, >> >> - Stephen >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks so much Mark. I've copied Anne so she will be in touch. I'm getting ready to be gone for 2 weeks from Oct 4 - 18 and have a grandbaby due shortly thereafter, so I'll be completely without internet for awhile then very behind and probably distracted after that for awhile:) Bobbi -----Original Message----- From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mark Younger Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 6:11 PM To: younger@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Marcus Father Named as Alexander No problem just wondering if there was new source - yes let me know what I can do here in Memphis Mark Younger CFM Director Facilities Administration Hilton Hotels Corporation Memphis Operations/Data Center 755 Crossover Lane Memphis ,TN 38117 Tel: 901 374-5458 Fax :901 374-5458 -----Original Message----- From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Roberta J. Estes Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 4:39 PM To: younger@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Marcus Father Named as Alexander Mark, Did you see the thread about the discussion of my Marcus's possible father? This might involve you as the person with the info lives in Memphis in a retirement home and we might need someone to visit her for the info. I've copied Anne Hunt who is working on this. The info about this book got appended to the main discussion. If you need the meat of the subject again, let me know. I wasn't sure if you were talking about that or you were asking about the book, which are really not connected. Bobbi -----Original Message----- From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mark Younger Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 3:18 PM To: younger@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Marcus Father Named as Alexander I did but it was not about genealogy - the book I saw - there where several Mark Younger CFM Director Facilities Administration Hilton Hotels Corporation Memphis Operations/Data Center 755 Crossover Lane Memphis ,TN 38117 Tel: 901 374-5458 Fax :901 374-5458 -----Original Message----- From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mbmackie1231@aol.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 1:55 PM To: younger@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Marcus Father Named as Alexander Mark..go to "Google Books" and put the title in the search engine. The whole book will come up. **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mark, Did you see the thread about the discussion of my Marcus's possible father? This might involve you as the person with the info lives in Memphis in a retirement home and we might need someone to visit her for the info. I've copied Anne Hunt who is working on this. The info about this book got appended to the main discussion. If you need the meat of the subject again, let me know. I wasn't sure if you were talking about that or you were asking about the book, which are really not connected. Bobbi -----Original Message----- From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mark Younger Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 3:18 PM To: younger@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Marcus Father Named as Alexander I did but it was not about genealogy - the book I saw - there where several Mark Younger CFM Director Facilities Administration Hilton Hotels Corporation Memphis Operations/Data Center 755 Crossover Lane Memphis ,TN 38117 Tel: 901 374-5458 Fax :901 374-5458 -----Original Message----- From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mbmackie1231@aol.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 1:55 PM To: younger@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Marcus Father Named as Alexander Mark..go to "Google Books" and put the title in the search engine. The whole book will come up. **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No problem just wondering if there was new source - yes let me know what I can do here in Memphis Mark Younger CFM Director Facilities Administration Hilton Hotels Corporation Memphis Operations/Data Center 755 Crossover Lane Memphis ,TN 38117 Tel: 901 374-5458 Fax :901 374-5458 -----Original Message----- From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Roberta J. Estes Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 4:39 PM To: younger@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Marcus Father Named as Alexander Mark, Did you see the thread about the discussion of my Marcus's possible father? This might involve you as the person with the info lives in Memphis in a retirement home and we might need someone to visit her for the info. I've copied Anne Hunt who is working on this. The info about this book got appended to the main discussion. If you need the meat of the subject again, let me know. I wasn't sure if you were talking about that or you were asking about the book, which are really not connected. Bobbi -----Original Message----- From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mark Younger Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 3:18 PM To: younger@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Marcus Father Named as Alexander I did but it was not about genealogy - the book I saw - there where several Mark Younger CFM Director Facilities Administration Hilton Hotels Corporation Memphis Operations/Data Center 755 Crossover Lane Memphis ,TN 38117 Tel: 901 374-5458 Fax :901 374-5458 -----Original Message----- From: younger-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:younger-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mbmackie1231@aol.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 1:55 PM To: younger@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YOUNGER] Marcus Father Named as Alexander Mark..go to "Google Books" and put the title in the search engine. The whole book will come up. **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YOUNGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Apologies everybody Birkenhead, Cheshire, England

Thanks, Wilma. I must have missed that one. I'll go in one of these days and see if I can pull it up. - Stephen On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Wilma (Younger) Norton <wilma.norton@cox.net> wrote: > I got the name from the Scottish Church Records CD at LDS FHC Ver. 2.00 and > the marriage date from the same source. This is from my Notes: > "I have no proof this is the wife of our William Younger -- I found this > marriage information in the Scottish Church Records CD and have made the > assumption that this information is correct. There was a marriage recorded > between William Younger and Margreit Fleming on this date, I just can't > prove which William Younger it referred to." > The date is Oct. 26, 1607 and location was "at Inveresk With Musselburgh, > Midlothian, Scotland." The date and location seemed to fit. > > Wilma

Is anybody else out there in Rootsweb-land interested in the YOUNGER family from Birkenhead. In the 1881 census they were the only family of that name in Birkenhead. My grandmother Ethel, a schoolteacher, was born two years later Ethel 13 April 1883. She married my grandfather Samuel Rowland in 1920 and died in Churton by Aldford 23 Dec 1941. There are several stories about her and her family which we have been unable to confirm or disprove and are now looking for anybody else who is researching them. In hope, Geoff Rowland