Thanks for posting the explanation of the family crests. I have found the name YOUNG with English, Irish, Scottish, French , German and my own combination of Scotts-Irish and Native American (Indian). One of the surprises that I have found was that I have found native Germans with both Jung and Young spellings. Some Germans . have changed the spelling after coming to America The name Young is also commom among several of the American Indian tribes that appeared when they started taking "European" names. J. Ray Young --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.406 / Virus Database: 229 - Release Date: 10/22/02