Where in Illinois? A branch of my Young family went to Pekin. I don't know a lot about them, however. Sheila At 10:45 AM 3/6/00 -0600, you wrote: >Dear List, > >I am looking for information on YOUNGS that may have settle around >central Illinois about the 1850's. They would have a son named Herman or >Harmon. He would marry a women whos last name was MILLER. Her nickname >was either "Jettie" or "Gettie". Any information will be appreciated. >Thanks in advance Spelling of names may vary. > >Thanks, >Jackie > > >==== YOUNG Mailing List ==== >Have you ever noticed how many people are descended from royalty, >but nobody is ever related to a horse thief? >The list owner is at [email protected] > >============================== >Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >Brought to you by RootsWeb.com.

Dear List, I am looking for information on YOUNGS that may have settle around central Illinois about the 1850's. They would have a son named Herman or Harmon. He would marry a women whos last name was MILLER. Her nickname was either "Jettie" or "Gettie". Any information will be appreciated. Thanks in advance Spelling of names may vary. Thanks, Jackie

Dollarhide's census maps are the best source. Check your local library for the book if you don't have it on your self. The old Handybook for Genealogists by Everton is a great starting tool too. It shows the counties in each state, tells what counties they were created from & when & briefly lists what dates the records cover. There are also programs for your computer which will print the maps with where you ancestor resided when you place them on the map. Might look for one of those. Linda

What confuses us more is the fact that TN was part of a county of NC before statehood in 1796. So when they said TN, it may have been NC at the time. When they said NC, it may have become TN later. Linda McCain Stansell

In a message dated 3/5/00 10:22:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Hi Brett, Do you have any info on the offspring of Johannes & Maria. >> Hiya Lou, Here is what I have from Johannes and Maria. Marcus Jung b. 20 Sep 1705 Sybilla Jung b. abt 1706 (this one I only keep in my records because of her dob and her location in Lancaster, PA. I have nothing that proves she was related, but have found nothing to disprove it. So I keep her in until I can come up with more on her.) Hans Matheus Jung b. abt 1711 Jos Peter Jung b. 16 Oct. 1712 Elizabeth Jung b. 21 Dec. 1719 Johan Jacob Jung b. 2 Mar 1721 Johan Peter Jung b. 3 Jan 1723 Johannes Jung b. 29 Jul 1725 I have only one source for all but Hans Matheus and Marcus, and of course as noted about Sybilla. As for Marcus and Hans Matheus, there is much in Lancaster, PA records on them. Hans Matheus is known as Matheus. Both of their names show up on the ships manifest for the Loyal Judith, along with a man named Conrad Fey, that later turns out to have a daughter that marries Matheus Jung. They name their first born, Conrad Jung in 1734 in Lancaster, PA. I have yet to run into a William Sherman Young, but this intriques me because another branch of my family is named Sherman. Brett

My YOUNG ancestor came to Massachusetts about 1734 ~ Robert Young. Supposedly he was born in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland, then went to Ulster, then to America. I've not had much luck finding the ship he was on or anything much about him before he arrived in America. Do you think the book you mentioned, "British Origins of American Colonists," would help? Supposedly he came with three brothers, but I've found nothing on that, either. He first settled in Holliston, MA, and I've found no evidence of other Young's there at the time. Unless they parted ways upon their arrival ~ who knows? I did join NEGHS and plan to go in there this week; I've also ordered from Higginson and that's a great resource (www.higginsonbooks.com ~ I believe ~ don't hold me to it!). Sheila Young Heap At 06:04 PM 3/5/00 , you wrote: I see that there have been several postings about Young ancestors whose name changed from the German Jung to Young; this is the case with my own ancestors, who arrived around 1700 into PA. It sounds like many of you are at the same point I am - wanting to know just where they came from and some >of the circumstances that brought them here. There is a home page for an >organization called Palatines to America, located at >http://palam.org/~palam/#iareg. I haven't paid the fees or joined up yet, >so this is not exactly an endorsement, but they are located in Colorado, >Illinois, Indiana, NY, PA, VA and WV, as well as Columbus, OH, not far from >me. They have lots of sources like ships records. I may cough up the fees >and start visiting to see if I can work further back than I have so far. >Their e-mail address is [email protected] this address you can receive an >application form to join. Give them your name and s-mail address, or see if >there is a printable app on-line. >For those of you "youngsters" whose folks came from Britain, I can recommend >a little book that costs about $12.00, called "British Origins of American >Colonists." (by William Dollarhide) The chapters describe when various >migrations occurred, and where different groups came from. It's easy to >read and has big maps! I think I got it from Heritage Quest or Higginson. >I'm not trying to begin a practice of endorsing products, just mentioning >what helps me. Before I got this book, I didn't even realize that my >English ancestors were Puritans from the 1630s! With this info, I >discovered some amazing things in my own heritage. >Good luck, listers. I'll be watching and hoping you all will share what you >learn. >Debbie, OH > > >==== YOUNG Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe: send a message to [email protected] Put only > unsubscribe >in the body of the text. >The list owner is at [email protected] > >============================== >Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

Joseph Leroy (Roy) Young was born to George Hussey Young in Rush co IN 1879 and d. Memphis 1965. As a young man he moved to Memphis where he married Ida Cole from MS who had 3 girls by Mr. Cole. She and Roy had Warren Luther b 1907 in Memphis and Joseph Leroy (Joe) b 1911 who married Dorothy Brockman. Any information is appreciated. Suzanne

Hello, Does my John Young look at ALL familiar to you? I'm starting to feel "genealogy fatigue"--will he EVER show up anywhere? John D. Young was German (born @ 1768), and of Canajoharie at the time of his marriage to Margaretha Countreman in 1788. Thanks, Jen > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan and Laurie Isdell [mailto:[email protected]] > Hi folks, > > For some reason, I didn't get the original post from > [email protected] that is quoted here! Could someone please send it > to me? > > I have a William JUNG b. 1712 or 13, came to America in 1744 with > his mother, sister(the sister m. a SHELDRAKE in America), wife > (Elizabeth WAGNER or WAGERAINE), and three children. They lived in > Conestoga and around Philadelphia, and made a trip to New River, VA > (to visit someone?). Their children were Ann Christiana b. 1737, > Jacob Maximillian b. 1739, William Jr. b. 1742, Catherine b. 1745, and > Elizabeth b. 1747. > > Ann Christiana m. John LEECH. William Jr. was a botanist for the > Royal family and sold botanical preparations in Philadelphia. > Catherine m. Jacob HOFFMAN. > > William the immigrant's family was originally from England. Robert > YOUNG, b. ca 1530 in England, moved to Hesse, Germany. One > of his grandsons, William b. ca 1585, moved back to England (London). > His other grandson had a grandson named Georg JUNG b. ca 1620 who > lived in Kassel, Hesse. Georg's great-grandson William was the one > who moved to PA. > > Anyone recognize any of this, or think we can make a connection? i > only have info on this line from the Leech descendents, so I don't > know who the Young descendents might have been, although I believe > there could be some through William Jr. > > Thanks, > > Laurie > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > In a message dated 3/4/00 8:26:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > << It's been a while since I've posted our "brick wall" . > > Philadelphia, German, JUNGs(YOUNGs) from about 1760-1860. > > > > Rose Catherine MESSERSCHMIDT POSTHUMUS > > > > ********** > > > > Rose, > > > > Are you certain they came from Germany? I'm not an expert on european > > history, but my ancestors were two brothers that arrived on the > Loyal Judith > > in Sept. 1732. They were named Marcus and Matheus Jung. > Apparently, they came > > from Rheinland. I understand that it is something to do with > Germany, but > > I've had so much to look for here, I haven't even begun really > trying to > > tackle Europe. > > > > The parents of my two ancestors were supposedly Johannes and Maria Jung. > > Johannes born about 1685. That's all I have right now though. > The brothers > > landed in Philadelphia but moved to Lancaster, Pa. > > > > Brett > > > ==== YOUNG Mailing List ==== > Remember that genealogy is not the search for the rich and famous. > The list owner is at [email protected] > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. >

I see that there have been several postings about Young ancestors whose name changed from the German Jung to Young; this is the case with my own ancestors, who arrived around 1700 into PA. It sounds like many of you are at the same point I am - wanting to know just where they came from and some of the circumstances that brought them here. There is a home page for an organization called Palatines to America, located at http://palam.org/~palam/#iareg. I haven't paid the fees or joined up yet, so this is not exactly an endorsement, but they are located in Colorado, Illinois, Indiana, NY, PA, VA and WV, as well as Columbus, OH, not far from me. They have lots of sources like ships records. I may cough up the fees and start visiting to see if I can work further back than I have so far. Their e-mail address is [email protected] this address you can receive an application form to join. Give them your name and s-mail address, or see if there is a printable app on-line. For those of you "youngsters" whose folks came from Britain, I can recommend a little book that costs about $12.00, called "British Origens of American Colonists." (by William Dollarhide) The chapters describe when various migrations occurred, and where different groups came from. It's easy to read and has big maps! I think I got it from Heritage Quest or Higginsons. I'm not trying to begin a practice of endorsing products, just mentioning what helps me. Before I got this book, I didn't even realize that my English ancestors were Puritans from the 1630s! With this info, I discovered some amazing things in my own heritage. Good luck, listers. I'll be watching and hoping you all will share what you learn. Debbie, OH

Hi Bruce, Sorry I haven't run across your family, but will keep you posted if I do! BTW, I tried to send this to you privately but it didn't go through. Thanks for writing, Laurie bgriffis wrote: > > Laurie and Young List, > I have been reading the post on the Young list in regards to the Jung > family of Germany. My wife, Dee, grandmother was Ethel Young, daughter of > Adam Otto and Fanny Bogart Young of Anderson Twp., Hamilton Co., Ohio. > Adam's parents were George Adam and Sarah (Sallie) Dash Young. George Adam > was born in Bavaria in 1837 and came to America, supposedly through Philly, > PA., and their original name was "Jung." > Sallie Dash was born Dec. 1848 in Campbell Co., KY. the daughter of Michael > and Charlotte Dash. I was wondering if anyone on the list have come across > this family. Looking forward to your reply. > Thanks, > Bruce from Cincinnati, Ohio

I noticed you state you are near Columbus, OH. I live in Reynoldsburg. Are we close? George Young

Laurie and Young List, I have been reading the post on the Young list in regards to the Jung family of Germany. My wife, Dee, grandmother was Ethel Young, daughter of Adam Otto and Fanny Bogart Young of Anderson Twp., Hamilton Co., Ohio. Adam's parents were George Adam and Sarah (Sallie) Dash Young. George Adam was born in Bavaria in 1837 and came to America, supposedly through Philly, PA., and their original name was "Jung." Sallie Dash was born Dec. 1848 in Campbell Co., KY. the daughter of Michael and Charlotte Dash. I was wondering if anyone on the list have come across this family. Looking forward to your reply. Thanks, Bruce from Cincinnati, Ohio

J. Ray: Never consider anything you find in the census as a "fact!" The enumerator usually got his (or her) information from only one member of the household (who might not even have been a member of the family). The discrepancies you mentioned are typical of what might be expected from someone who thought they knew the answers. I came out of retirement in 1990 to serve as a Field Operations Supervisor for the 1990 census and I can assure you that not nearly as many people were missed as the press has suggested. Just because someone refused to talk to the enumerator doesn't mean that he wasn't counted. You'd be surprised how much "factual" information your neighbors would be willing to share about you! Joe Burgess ----- Original Message ----- From: J Ray Young <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2000 9:02 AM Subject: Facts!! > > I just found another "fact" that I must look at with disbelief. > > The 1880 census of Marion Co IL shows that the father of my Matthew > Young (who was Samuel Young) was born in VA. Samuel stated in his Rev > War pension application that he was born in PA and served with the > malitia there. He later moved to VA and also served in the malitia > there. I have been able to confirm that these statements are probably > true. (Nothing is certain in this game) > > The census also states that that Matt's mother was born in TN. I find > this hard to believe because her oldest daughter was born in NC and they > lived several other places before they moved to TN. > > I just wanted to make a comment that this proves again that you must be > cautious even of the "facts". > > J. Ray Young > > > ==== YOUNG Mailing List ==== > Transcribe an old document and share it with the list. > The list owner is at [email protected] > > ============================== > The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > >

I just found another "fact" that I must look at with disbelief. The 1880 census of Marion Co IL shows that the father of my Matthew Young (who was Samuel Young) was born in VA. Samuel stated in his Rev War pension application that he was born in PA and served with the malitia there. He later moved to VA and also served in the malitia there. I have been able to confirm that these statements are probably true. (Nothing is certain in this game) The census also states that that Matt's mother was born in TN. I find this hard to believe because her oldest daughter was born in NC and they lived several other places before they moved to TN. I just wanted to make a comment that this proves again that you must be cautious even of the "facts". J. Ray Young

Hello : I am sure this does not connect in the way you are looking but I have a R.H. Tomlinson born Toronto sept. 28,1835 died Mar. 9,1900 SueSt.M?? He was a insector for Can. Permanet Loan .He married Julia Young and they had 2 children , 1. Clara Spaulding Tomlinson who mar. Rev. Copp of Ontario. 2. George Herbert .Julia Young was the daughter of Alexander Young and Mary Drew , and Alexander was son of Andrew young and Polly Currier who were among the very first settlers of Stanstad PQCanada. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2000 8:25 PM Subject: Isaac YOUNG, 1802-1887; b. Pa.?; d. Phila., Pa. > Need ancestry of subject. He married (1) Rebecca (Clark?), (2) Mary ------ . > He, Rebecca, and children lived in Phila., Pa. and Montgomery County, Pa. > With Rebecca, he had at least six children: Elizabeth, Charles, Francis > (male), Mary, Isaac, and Rebecca (m. Wells TOMLINSON). He is buried in St. > Thomas (Episcopal) Church, Whitemarsh, Montgomery Co., Pa. > > Thanks, > > Rex Brook Tomlinson > > > ==== YOUNG Mailing List ==== > Transcribe an old document and share it with the list. > The list owner is at [email protected] > > ============================== > The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ >

Here is my line of ancestors. I obviously don't have a lot of information. Patti Patricia Young Champion South Carolina Descendants of A. H. Young Generation No. 1 1. A. H.1 YOUNG He married FANNIE COMPTON. Child of A. YOUNG and FANNIE COMPTON is: 2. i. GEORGE AUGUSTA2 YOUNG, b. August 01, 1862, Tennessee; d. May 30, 1932, Buried in Maplewood Cemetary (???). Generation No. 2 2. GEORGE AUGUSTA2 YOUNG (A. H.1) was born August 01, 1862 in Tennessee, and died May 30, 1932 in Maplewood Cemetary. He married MARY ELIZABETH COX July 15, 1880 in Lauderdale Co., Tennessee. She was born January 14, 1862 in Lauderdale Co., Tennessee, and died November 03, 1954 in Grace Baptist Church. Children of GEORGE YOUNG and MARY COX are: i. CLARN3 YOUNG. ii. CHARLES ESTES YOUNG, b. August 18, 1884; m. ETHEL. 3. iii. FRANK ELVIE YOUNG, b. April 03, 1887; d. February 17, 1961. iv. ELNORA YOUNG, b. September 1890; m. MADSON BAKER. v. ARTHUR QUINTON YOUNG, b. September 26, 1896; d. 1973; m. MINNIE LEE WITT. vi. LEONARD AUGUSTA YOUNG, b. May 31, 1898; m. LUNA CRITFIELD. 4. vii. BESSIE CLEO YOUNG, b. September 04, 1901, Ripley, Lauderdale Co., Tennessee. Generation No. 3 3. FRANK ELVIE3 YOUNG (GEORGE AUGUSTA2, A. H.1) was born April 03, 1887, and died February 17, 1961. He married ORA PEARL ROBBINS. Children of FRANK YOUNG and ORA ROBBINS are: i. ROBERT4 YOUNG. ii. EDDIE YOUNG. iii. JAMES LEVI YOUNG, b. June 17, 1912; d. March 04, 1985, Asbury; m. ETHEL HODGES. iv. TALMEDGE EUGENE YOUNG, b. March 1918. 5. v. KATHRYN ELIZABETH YOUNG, b. May 07, 1923. 6. vi. ALBERT FRANKLIN YOUNG, b. July 03, 1927; d. July 07, 1991, Memorial Gardens, Ripley, Lauderdale Co., TN. 4. BESSIE CLEO3 YOUNG (GEORGE AUGUSTA2, A. H.1) was born September 04, 1901 in Ripley, Lauderdale Co., Tennessee. She married (1) J. O. VICKERY. She married (2) SILAS ALLEN HELTON March 01, 1931 in Ripley, Lauderdale Co., Tennessee. He was born January 07, 1905 in Ragland, St. Clair Co., Alabama. Child of BESSIE YOUNG and SILAS HELTON is: 7. i. BREMON EARL4 HELTON, b. February 08, 1932. Generation No. 4 5. KATHRYN ELIZABETH4 YOUNG (FRANK ELVIE3, GEORGE AUGUSTA2, A. H.1) was born May 07, 1923. She married CLAUDE GRANT COX September 19, 1939. He was born August 17, 1904 in Ripley, Lauderdale Co., Tennessee, and died May 21, 1990 in Walnut Grove Baptist Church. Children of KATHRYN YOUNG and CLAUDE COX are: i. NORA JUNE5 COX, b. April 20, 1940. ii. ELONA JOY COX, b. September 08, 1942. iii. CLIFTON DONALD COX, b. September 24, 1945. iv. HELEN DALE COX, b. July 09, 1947. v. LARRY DOUGLAS COX, b. May 07, 1949. vi. DORA DEAN COX, b. April 05, 1951. vii. JAMES MANUEL COX, b. September 05, 1952. 6. ALBERT FRANKLIN4 YOUNG (FRANK ELVIE3, GEORGE AUGUSTA2, A. H.1) was born July 03, 1927, and died July 07, 1991 in Memorial Gardens, Ripley, Lauderdale Co., TN. He married MARY ALICE ANN MCGEE November 10, 1953. She was born June 05, 1924, and died November 26, 1991. Children of ALBERT YOUNG and MARY MCGEE are: i. JOHN ALBERT5 YOUNG, b. August 16, 1954; m. (1) PATSY; m. (2) BARBARA. ii. PATRICIA ANNE YOUNG, b. January 01, 1956, Memphis, Shelby County, Tennessee; m. CHARLES MICHAEL CHAMPION, April 08, 1978, Houston, Chickasaw County, Mississippi; b. December 30, 1955, Chattanooga, Hamilton County, Tennessee. iii. PEGGY SUE YOUNG, b. June 1958; m. DAVID. 7. BREMON EARL4 HELTON (BESSIE CLEO3 YOUNG, GEORGE AUGUSTA2, A. H.1) was born February 08, 1932. He married GRETA ANN SANDERS October 27, 1956 in Alcorn Co., Mississippi. She was born June 01, 1937 in Ripley, Lauderdale Co., Tennessee. Children of BREMON HELTON and GRETA SANDERS are: i. GARY LYNN5 HELTON, b. June 27, 1957. ii. RONNIE DALE HELTON, b. November 02, 1960. iii. WENDELL RAY HELTON, b. November 06, 1961. iv. RUBY ANN HELTON, b. January 26, 1964. v. REBECCA JANE HELTON, b. April 17, 1965. vi. DANITA FAYE HELTON, b. July 22, 1977.

The parents of my two ancestors were supposedly Johannes and Maria Jung. Johannes born about 1685. That's all I have right now though. The brothers landed in Philadelphia but moved to Lancaster, Pa. Brett Hi Brett, Do you have any info on the offspring of Johannes & Maria. I believe that my GGGF came from somewhere in the German Empire, The time period of your Johannes is ok, but I have only ever been able to find one son, (MYGGF) William Sherman YOUNG. Wm. Sherman was born in PGH 1827, died there in 1900. On his death cert, it reported his parents names as John and Amanda. Does any of this fit to your files?? Lou YOUNG, in Calif [email protected]

Dear List, Researching William Young, born Manchester England b between 1877 - 1886. He moved to Detroit to work at the Ford Factory about 1929/30. He was married to Alice and had two daughters, Mabel and Dorothy. He may have moved on to Ontario, Canada in later years. Any info appreciated Nick Young Liverpool England

Hi folks, For some reason, I didn't get the original post from [email protected] that is quoted here! Could someone please send it to me? I have a William JUNG b. 1712 or 13, came to America in 1744 with his mother, sister(the sister m. a SHELDRAKE in America), wife (Elizabeth WAGNER or WAGERAINE), and three children. They lived in Conestoga and around Philadelphia, and made a trip to New River, VA (to visit someone?). Their children were Ann Christiana b. 1737, Jacob Maximillian b. 1739, William Jr. b. 1742, Catherine b. 1745, and Elizabeth b. 1747. Ann Christiana m. John LEECH. William Jr. was a botanist for the Royal family and sold botanical preparations in Philadelphia. Catherine m. Jacob HOFFMAN. William the immigrant's family was originally from England. Robert YOUNG, b. ca 1530 in England, moved to Hesse, Germany. One of his grandsons, William b. ca 1585, moved back to England (London). His other grandson had a grandson named Georg JUNG b. ca 1620 who lived in Kassel, Hesse. Georg's great-grandson William was the one who moved to PA. Anyone recognize any of this, or think we can make a connection? i only have info on this line from the Leech descendents, so I don't know who the Young descendents might have been, although I believe there could be some through William Jr. Thanks, Laurie [email protected] wrote: > > In a message dated 3/4/00 8:26:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > << It's been a while since I've posted our "brick wall" . > Philadelphia, German, JUNGs(YOUNGs) from about 1760-1860. > > Rose Catherine MESSERSCHMIDT POSTHUMUS > > ********** > > Rose, > > Are you certain they came from Germany? I'm not an expert on european > history, but my ancestors were two brothers that arrived on the Loyal Judith > in Sept. 1732. They were named Marcus and Matheus Jung. Apparently, they came > from Rheinland. I understand that it is something to do with Germany, but > I've had so much to look for here, I haven't even begun really trying to > tackle Europe. > > The parents of my two ancestors were supposedly Johannes and Maria Jung. > Johannes born about 1685. That's all I have right now though. The brothers > landed in Philadelphia but moved to Lancaster, Pa. > > Brett

Hi YOUNGsters, It's been a while since I've posted our "brick wall" . Philadelphia, German, JUNGs(YOUNGs) from about 1760-1860. George jung was born about 1762, married a Dorothea STONE(STEIN) of Quakertown area. Geo. and Dorothea attended St.Michaels & Zion in the Passyunk/Moyamensing area of Philly. We've been able to get a few record about them from that source. They had a son Geo who died in infancy, and a daughter Margaret. I'm trying to find records for his son John, born in Philly about 1806 and any other children in this family.. So far, we have not been able to find any info about George Sr's. parents or siblings, or when they came to the US. Any help with this family would be greatly appreciated. THank you and HAPPY HUNTING. Please note my Philly surnames below. Rose Catherine MESSERSCHMIDT POSTHUMUS Phila. area surnames: ASH-BAUER-GALLAGHER-KEER-KEPLER-KOENIG(KONIG)-MESSERSCHMIDT-MILLER(MUELLER/M ULLER)-STONE(STEIN)- WILLS-YOUNG(JUNG)