Hi Lin Some great clues here. William's baptism confirms that his father was a farmer which gives me another generation of farmers, so that fits well with what I know. William was educated enough to write his name as were his brothers and sisters so that eliminates a couple of marriages. The parishes of Rawmarsh and Huddersfield seem less likely and I dont yet know of a John in the family which leaves me with my first guess, Mary Spurr and Sarah Stockdale. I assume that her marriage is in St. Johns ? On balance of probabilities since William would be 17 at the time I would think it the less likely of the two.Farmers tended to marry later in life, but I'm open to persuasion. They all farmed around Carr Gate for many years just east of the present M1. Many thanks for these records and the trouble you have taken. Cheers Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: Lin To: Frank Turner Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] William TURNER m. Sarah STOCKDALE Hi Frank I'm sending you the images of the 5 marriages. Also the burial record for William in 1837 and his baptism record 1789 (St Helen, Hemsworth). Lin On 22/06/2012 14:31, Frank Turner wrote: Hi Lin Thanks for your help. What I do know is that William was one of 5 children born to Joshua TURNER and Grace Audsley. His brother George was a farm labourer so it is possible that William is of farming stock. He was born 16 July 1789 in Hemsworth Wakefield. Data on other members of the family relate to the north west side of Wakefield, e.g. East Ardsley, Carr Gate and Stanley. He died on 1 Dec 1837 in Lee Moor gate Wakefield so he could be the one you have listed at Cock Pit houses. The 5 possible marriages are :- Hannah Hall 10 Nov 1805 when he would be 16, so least likely. Sarah Stockdale 2 Mar 1807, when he would be 17. Sophia Foljambe 1809 Anna Wood 30 May 1816 Maria Spurr 19 April 1818 at St. Johns. His brother George married at St. Johns in 1817 . This was witnessed by his other brother Charles. This suggests to me that Maria is the right one. Cheers Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: Lin To: Frank Turner Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] William TURNER m. Sarah STOCKDALE Frank The marriage record for William Turner and Sarah Stockdal 2 Mar 1807 St John the Baptist, Wakefield doesn't give an occupation only he was 'of this parish'. He signed, she made a mark. William Turner married Hannah Hall St John the Baptist 10 Nov 1805 - he made a mark, she signed. There are a few baptisms to this couple - details can be sent if you want. One was baptised in 1817 - Charles - parents William and Hannah, so am assuming the same couple. They lived in Westgate and William was a clothmaker Which were the other marriages? Any other pointers which may help me find which William? There is a burial of William Turner, Cockpit Houses, Dec 3d 1837 aged 48 at St Peter, Stanley. (born about 1789) Burial of William Turner, Westgate, June 20th 1854 aged 72 (born 1782). St John the Baptist, Wakefield..Could be the one who married Hannah Hall as they lived on Westgate I can send you the images of the records. Lin On 21/06/2012 17:49, Frank Turner wrote: One of my very first posts on Yorksgen 11 years ago elicited one of those "frosty" replies from Roy. We have had several amical discussions since that time, I'm happy to say, but I now am in fear and trepidation. Why ? Because in researching the marriage of an ancient TURNER one WILLIAM b. 16 July 1789 in Hemsworth, Wakefield , I have unearthed 5 possible partners on the IGI but as you know, the detail is thin. Could it be that one of them a SARAH STOCKDALE married him in Wakefield 2 Mar 1807 ? The other 4 marriages also took place in Wakefield in a similar time frame. I have 2 questions Roy. 1) Tell me it isnt true <grin> and we are not related. 2) How can I sort them out to discover which one if any is the right one ? I can always venture back to Wakefield records office to find out if that is the simplest way. Cheers (maybe?? cousin). Frank from a wet and miserable Bonnie Scotland ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message