Hi Ann You have a fairly unusual document there then, despite seeing rather a lot of marriage certificates, I have yet to see a marriage which lists both parents so you have something rather unique there I wonder why they recorded both ? Has anyone else seen one I wonder? For the record I have not seen any reply to you that could be taken as anything other than helpful, perhaps you just misread the tone which can be difficult to convey sometimes in email Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 21/06/2012 09:47, SBS Engineers Research wrote: > Nivard and list > > Regarding my email where I stated Thomas Briggs marriage certificate > listed only his father's name (Thomas Briggs - gardener) but both > parents of his wife Maria Richards. Her parents Thomas and Maria "are" > both listed on the marriage certificate (I have it here with me). I have > followed her parents backward s to their marriage in Devon and forwards > through the birth of all their children, 2 born in Devon and the rest > born in Kent. > > I didn't realize my first email came across looking so mixed up; this > was the result of being busy and trying to send off an email in a hurry. > > > Have a nice day. > Ann > Perth WA

Having found the marriage and death certificates on line, from one of Ann's previous posts, only Thomas Briggs (gardener) and Thomas Richards (blacksmith) are listed as fathers (in the last column where they should be). Witnesses are Thos Richards, Maria Richards and Thos Briggs. However, there is a squiggle or something before Maria Richards signature (the witness) which could be Maria E Richards or Maria Rhichards. Even Maria the bride's signature looks as though it has a squiggle. I did wonder if the person filling in the certificate has put the wrong father's name (I have one where the father was listed as Robert instead of Richard, but the parish register is correct) however the fact that there is Thos Briggs as a witness seems to discount that theory. Another thought was, does Ann have the right Thomas dying in 1854? Again, the age is consistent as well as occuption. Young master Briggs is with his Richards grandparents in 1861 so that is no help either! However Maria, is a servant, but is given as being married, but is a widow in 1871. I've searched all the census sites I have using, Briggs (and variants), Thomas, Thos, gardener, blacksmith, 1830 +/- 2 for 1841 and 1851 and can't find either of the Thomases. The only one is the one from Bexley but as Ann rightly points out Thomas jnr is still alive in 1861. Lin On 21/06/2012 12:14, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi Ann > > You have a fairly unusual document there then, despite seeing rather a > lot of marriage certificates, I have yet to see a marriage which lists > both parents so you have something rather unique there > > I wonder why they recorded both ? > > Has anyone else seen one I wonder? > > For the record I have not seen any reply to you that could be taken as > anything other than helpful, perhaps you just misread the tone which can > be difficult to convey sometimes in email > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > On 21/06/2012 09:47, SBS Engineers Research wrote: >> Nivard and list >> >> Regarding my email where I stated Thomas Briggs marriage certificate >> listed only his father's name (Thomas Briggs - gardener) but both >> parents of his wife Maria Richards. Her parents Thomas and Maria "are" >> both listed on the marriage certificate (I have it here with me). I have >> followed her parents backward s to their marriage in Devon and forwards >> through the birth of all their children, 2 born in Devon and the rest >> born in Kent. >> >> I didn't realize my first email came across looking so mixed up; this >> was the result of being busy and trying to send off an email in a hurry. >> >> >> Have a nice day. >> Ann >> Perth WA > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >