Regarding the following posting, at first glance there appear to be a couple of oddities here. First, it would appear that the person who died is Mary, if the cause of death is anything to go on, as puerperal haemmorrhage, also portpartum haemmorrhage, is an affectation of women following childbirth and if the bleeding cannot be controlled, leads to death. But then, if Maria was 22 years at her marriage three months earlier, she would hardly be 24 years old at the time of death, so whose obit is this? Magdalena > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:44:15 +0800 > From: "SBS Engineers Research" <research@sbse.net.au> > Subject: [YORKSGEN] BRIGGS One Name Study > To: <YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <8475C7A7646CE441B5720074EA50C0863F2B81@refairs1.RefAir.local> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Good morning/night list > > My GG Grandfather Thomas Briggs was a blacksmith. He married Maria > Richards 22yrs old (born Devon) 08 May 1854 in Sheerness, Kent. Three > months later he suddenly died on 09 August 1854 aged 24yrs. Cause of death > Purpura/Haemorrhage. > The marriage certificate lists both of Maria's parents but only Thomas's > father...also named Thomas (a gardener). Mother may have been deceased and > not having her name makes it hard to find Thomas (Jnr) birth records etc. > I have spent years looking for him in Kent to no avail. So now I'm > looking in Kent. I have posted this message to the Kent email list - no > answers or advice thus far. > > Every time I find a Thomas Briggs born about 1830 - he is still alive in > the 1861 census - therefore NOT mine. > > Regards > Ann Spiro > baskett@one-name.org > briggs@one-name.org > http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Baskett > Blacksmiths & Related Occupations http://blacksmiths.mygenwebs.com? > > > > > -- AIIC Mail - A service provided by the International Association of Conference Interpreters --- http://aiic.net <http://aiic.net%20>

Hi I too was confused. Magdalena is right to say puerperal haemorrhage is a post partum haemorrhage and so only affects women after the placenta is delivered  but I thought this cause of death related to the man. In which case the technical term for bruises is pupura. It is difficult to say at this length of time exactly what the type of bleed would have been to have caused the death. Whatever caused the bleed it must have been substantial. Chris ________________________________ From: Magdalena GORRELL GUIMARAENS <m.gorrell@aiic.net> To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2012, 11:17 Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] YORKSGEN Digest, Vol 7, Issue 289 Regarding the following posting, at first glance there appear to be a couple of oddities here.  First, it would appear that the person who died is Mary, if the cause of death is anything to go on, as puerperal haemmorrhage, also portpartum haemmorrhage, is an affectation of women following childbirth and if the bleeding cannot be controlled, leads to death.  But then, if Maria was 22 years at her marriage three months earlier, she would hardly be 24 years old at the time of death, so whose obit is this? Magdalena > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:44:15 +0800 > From: "SBS Engineers Research" <research@sbse.net.au> > Subject: [YORKSGEN] BRIGGS One Name Study > To: <YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: >        <8475C7A7646CE441B5720074EA50C0863F2B81@refairs1.RefAir.local> > Content-Type: text/plain;      charset="iso-8859-1" > > Good morning/night list > > My GG Grandfather Thomas Briggs was a blacksmith. He married Maria > Richards 22yrs old (born Devon) 08 May 1854 in Sheerness, Kent. Three > months later he suddenly died on 09 August 1854 aged 24yrs.  Cause of death > Purpura/Haemorrhage. > The marriage certificate lists both of Maria's parents but only Thomas's > father...also named Thomas (a gardener). Mother may have been deceased and > not having her name makes it hard to find Thomas (Jnr) birth records etc. >  I have spent years looking for him in Kent to no avail.  So now I'm > looking in Kent.  I have posted this message to the Kent email list - no > answers or advice thus far. > > Every time I find a Thomas Briggs born about 1830  - he is still alive in > the 1861 census - therefore NOT mine. > > Regards > Ann Spiro > baskett@one-name.org > briggs@one-name.org > http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Baskett > Blacksmiths & Related Occupations  http://blacksmiths.mygenwebs.com? > > > > > -- AIIC Mail - A service provided by the International Association of Conference Interpreters --- http://aiic.net <http://aiic.net%20> ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Folks I did NOT say Thomas Briggs died of puerperal haemorrhage (I was a midwife myself so I know the difference between puerperal and purpura). I said his 'Cause of death Purpura/Haemorrhage'. This is a haemorrhage usually under the skin and can be caused by several different illnesses or whatever. He may well have been Thrombocytopenic. I will never know. Thomas's death certificate does not say what caused his purpura. He was only 24yrs old and newly married so I am guessing it was a sudden onset illness. If you google for purpura and or purpura causing sudden death it you will see what comes up. When I posted my messages to the KENT list, stating Thomas died in 1854. It seems people did not read this (1854) and kept sending me copies of census forms for 1861 and telling me 'this is your man here in Bexley 1861'. They didn't; seem to click that this could not be my Thomas as he died in 1854. Simple! (but they were friendly listers and just trying to help). I'll keep plodding on. This Thomas Briggs is the only real stumbling block I've had in my research, so I guess I'm lucky. Kind regards Ann in Perth,WA www.tribalpages.com/tribes/briggs