Dear Carolyn, I didn't say 'everyone' was unfriendly. I posted on the list that only one person replied in a slightly unkind manner - yes, I was rushed and my email had mistakes in it. it's over and done with. Everyone else has been kind and friendly, including yourself. Thanks for the information below - you have the correct death. My Thomas Briggs died 09 August 1854 (September quarter). Burial 09Aug1854. Sad, as he was only 24yrs old and just married, and was no doubt looking at a long and happy life. I still can't help wishing the people who recorded these events back in the old days, had more thought for those (their descendants) who in the future might want to know about them :):):):) dare I joke! Thanks again. Regards Ann - (Winter Solstice yesterday, we woke up to temperature 0.7C bbbbbrrrrrr). my family coat of arms has sleeves that tie at the back! is that normal? -----Original Message----- Hi Ann, However there was the death of a Thomas BRIGGS in Kent in September, 1854???? (On BMD.) Maybe I'm confused and all my info. was stupid but I really did try! Nor do I think this is an "unfriendly" list. Everyone has tried to help you with all the time and energy they've got!! All the best, Carolyn in NSW.