Hi Roy, Yes, I have seen one like that. It was in someone else's family and they sent it to me in explanation of the statement "The mother is on the marriage certificate" but could not explain where they meant. To the best of my recollection the title "Father's name" had been crossed out and replaced by "Mother's name" and the name was written below. And yes, the child, to the best of my belief was illegitimate. Christine -----Original Message----- From: roy.stockdill@btinternet.com Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:41 PM To: yORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] YORKSGEN Digest, Vol 7, Issue 289 From: Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> > I suspect Ann meant *she* if she is looking for Thomas in 1861 > > How there came to be both parents on a marriage certificate would be > interesting to know though > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)> I have seen an equally interesting and unusual one! A few years ago I researched the ancestry of the Bradford-born actor Duncan Preston (well known for his roles with Victoria Wood and in Emmerdale) for my series on celebrity family trees in the former Pratical Family History magazine. Two of his grandparents were both illegitimate and their marriage certificate was the only one I've ever seen on which the names of the mothers are shown instead of the fathers (who were of course unknown). Has anyone else seen one like this? -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html

From: "Christine Benson" <christinebenson313@btinternet.com> > Hi Roy, > > Yes, I have seen one like that. It was in someone else's family and they > sent it to me in explanation of the statement "The mother is on the > marriage certificate" but could not explain where they meant. To the best of > my recollection the title "Father's name" had been crossed out and > replaced by > "Mother's name" and the name was written below. And yes, the child, > to the best of my belief was illegitimate.> Thanks for that, Christine. However, in the case I mentioned of the actor Duncan Preston what was virtually unique (not that there is any such phrase, of course - grammatically speaking, something is either unique or it isn't) was that on the marriage certificate of his grandparents BOTH parties gave their mothers' names instead of their fathers. I have never in 40 years of family history research seen another one like it. Maybe someone else has??? -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE