Hi Magdalena I suspect Ann meant *she* if she is looking for Thomas in 1861 How there came to be both parents on a marriage certificate would be interesting to know though Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 20/06/2012 11:17, Magdalena GORRELL GUIMARAENS wrote: > Regarding the following posting, at first glance there appear to be a > couple of oddities here. First, it would appear that the person who died > is Mary, if the cause of death is anything to go on, as puerperal > haemmorrhage, also portpartum haemmorrhage, is an affectation of women > following childbirth and if the bleeding cannot be controlled, leads to > death. But then, if Maria was 22 years at her marriage three months > earlier, she would hardly be 24 years old at the time of death, so whose > obit is this? > > Magdalena

From: Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> > I suspect Ann meant *she* if she is looking for Thomas in 1861 > > How there came to be both parents on a marriage certificate would be > interesting to know though > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)> I have seen an equally interesting and unusual one! A few years ago I researched the ancestry of the Bradford-born actor Duncan Preston (well known for his roles with Victoria Wood and in Emmerdale) for my series on celebrity family trees in the former Pratical Family History magazine. Two of his grandparents were both illegitimate and their marriage certificate was the only one I've ever seen on which the names of the mothers are shown instead of the fathers (who were of course unknown). Has anyone else seen one like this? -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

No my mistake, I read it back to front <g> Ann is seeking a Thomas that does *not* appear in 1861 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 20/06/2012 12:28, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi Magdalena > > I suspect Ann meant *she* if she is looking for Thomas in 1861 > > How there came to be both parents on a marriage certificate would be > interesting to know though > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >

Hi Nivard and All, I think Ann meant that if she found a Thomas in the censuses and he was alive in 1861 then he could not be her Thomas as she knew hers was dead. One of the trees I looked at gave the parents as witnesses. However that leaves the question - How can you know that witnesses are parents? Christine -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:28 PM To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] YORKSGEN Digest, Vol 7, Issue 289 Hi Magdalena I suspect Ann meant *she* if she is looking for Thomas in 1861 How there came to be both parents on a marriage certificate would be interesting to know though Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)