As a republican (though not a particularly virulent or obsessive one), I fell to musing over the weekend while watching the Jubilee pageant on the Thames (for the boats, not the royals) whether there are any living descendants of Oliver Cromwell, my historical hero who abolished the monarchy and led the execution party of Charles I, making Britain a republic, albeit for only a relatively short period. According to various websites, there are many. The following site http://hipweb.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/cromwellcollection/genealogy/heredis/info.htm says..... "There are many people alive today who are directly descended from Oliver Cromwell, via his son Henry and his daughters Bridget and Frances. Their descent has been thoroughly researched and reconstructed down to the mid Victorian period. Thus so long as you can trace your ancestry back as far as the 1860s, you should be able to see quite easily whether or not you lock into one of the proven lines of descent from Cromwell." I am aware for certain of only one, the Yorkshirewoman Katharine Worsley, the Duchess of Kent (and of course her children), who was born at Hovingham Hall, Hovingham, North Yorkshire, in 1933 . She is the 8x-great-granddaughter of Oliver Cromwell via one of his daughters, the aforementioned Frances. Ironic, is it not, that she is the Queen's first cousin, yet it was her ancestor who was responsible for the execution of HM's 9x-great-grandfather in 1649? I wonder if they ever discuss it over afternoon tea! Cromwell and his wife Elizabeth Bourchier had nine children of whom six survived to adulthood but only three produced descendants. I wonder whether we have any Cromwell descendants on this list??? Personally, I wish I were one but no such luck! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Wasn't it said in "Harlots, Housewives and Heroines: A 17th Century History for Girls" last week that he also had a mistress which must complicate things a bit. Martin Briscoe Fort William martin@mbriscoe.me.uk -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of roy.stockdill@btinternet.com Sent: 04 June 2012 16:25 To: genbrit@rootsweb.com Cc: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] How many living descendants are there of Oliver Cromwell? As a republican (though not a particularly virulent or obsessive one), I fell to musing over the weekend while watching the Jubilee pageant on the Thames (for the boats, not the royals) whether there are any living descendants of Oliver Cromwell, my historical hero who abolished the monarchy and led the execution party of Charles I, making Britain a republic, albeit for only a relatively short period.

From: "Martin Briscoe" <martin@mbriscoe.me.uk> > Wasn't it said in "Harlots, Housewives and Heroines: A 17th Century > History for Girls" last week that he also had a mistress which must > complicate things a bit. > > Martin Briscoe > Fort William > martin@mbriscoe.me.uk > > -----Original Message----- > From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of roy.stockdill@btinternet.com > Sent: 04 June 2012 16:25 > To: genbrit@rootsweb.com > Cc: yorksgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [YORKSGEN] How many living descendants are there of > Oliver > Cromwell? > > As a republican (though not a particularly virulent or obsessive > one), I fell to musing over the weekend while watching the Jubilee pageant > on the Thames (for the boats, not the royals) whether there are any > living descendants of Oliver Cromwell, my historical hero who abolished > the monarchy and led the execution party of Charles I, making Britain > a republic, albeit for only a relatively short period.> Name me a famous male figure in history who didn't have a mistress, though I must confess I have not heard of one in connection with Cromwell. Was he not too puritanical for that sort of thing? He may have abolished Christmas but did he have a lady on the side? Even if he didn't, we cannot know how many of his male Worsley descendants had illegitimate children in between! BTW, for anyone who's interested here is the direct line of descent from Oliver Cromwell to the Duchess of Kent..... 1) OLIVER CROMWELL (Lord Protector of The Commonwealth, 1599-1658) = ELIZABETH BOURCHIER 2) FRANCES CROMWELL (1638-1720) = Sir JOHN RUSSELL, 3rd Baronet of Chippenham (2nd husband). Frances was not lucky, her first husband died at 24 and her second at 29. 3) ELIZABETH RUSSELL (d 1733) = Sir THOMAS FRANKLAND, 2nd Baronet of Thirkleby 4) MARY FRANKLAND (d 1722, before her mother) = THOMAS WORSLEY (1686-1750) of Hovingham, Yorkshire 5) THOMAS WORSLEY (1720-1778) = ELIZABETH LISTER (c1721-1809) 6) Rev GEORGE WORSLEY, Rector of Scawton & Stonegrave (1761-1815) = ANNE CAYLEY (1732-1792) 7) Sir WILLIAM WORSLEY, 1st Baronet of Hovingham (1792-1879) = SARAH PHILADELPIA CAYLEY (1803-1885, presumably a relative of the above Anne) 8) ARTHINGTON WORSLEY (1830-1861, died aged 31) = MARIANNE HELY-HUTCHINSON 9) Sir WILLIAM HENRY WORSLEY, 3rd baronet of Hovingham (1861-1936) = AUGUSTA MARY BOWERS 10) Colonel Sir WILLIAM WORSLEY, 4th baronet (1890-1973) = JOYCE MORGAN BRUNNER 11) KATHARINE LUCY MARY WORSLEY (b 1933) = EDWARD DUKE OF KENT -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/NewAERbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Surely Charles I was not HM's 9xgreat-grandfather but her 8xgreat grand uncle as HM is a direct descendent of his sister Elizabeth Stuart who married Frederick V, Elector of Palantine? Katharine Worsley (Duchess of Kent) is not the Queen's first cousin but is married to her first cousin, Prince Edward, Duke of Kent. Lin . >> > > I am aware for certain of only one, the Yorkshirewoman Katharine Worsley, the Duchess of > Kent (and of course her children), who was born at Hovingham Hall, Hovingham, North > Yorkshire, in 1933 . She is the 8x-great-granddaughter of Oliver Cromwell via one of his > daughters, the aforementioned Frances. Ironic, is it not, that she is the Queen's first cousin, > yet it was her ancestor who was responsible for the execution of HM's 9x-great-grandfather > in 1649? I wonder if they ever discuss it over afternoon tea! > > Cromwell and his wife Elizabeth Bourchier had nine children of whom six survived to > adulthood but only three produced descendants. > > I wonder whether we have any Cromwell descendants on this list??? Personally, I wish I were > one but no such luck! > > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message