Libe,   There is another possibility.  Do you know who the biological father of Margaret Spencer is?  My grandmother used her biological father's name when she married and as a maiden name on the birth certificates of her children, but her parents were never married and her father died 10 years before she married.   If Margaret knew who her biological father was she may have used his surname to give the impression her mother was married, and thus avoid the associated disgrace of being born to an unwed woman.   Just an idea worth investigating if you don't know the father's name.   Steve Hardicre ________________________________ From: "yorksgen-request@rootsweb.com" <yorksgen-request@rootsweb.com> To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 27 August 2012, 8:01 Subject: YORKSGEN Digest, Vol 7, Issue 391 Today's Topics:   1. Re: registration information (libe)   2. Re: registration information (Kim Groothuis)   3. Re: Free BMD (Carole Edwards Caruso)   4. Re: Free BMD (Nivard Ovington)   5. Dunn & Witt in Cleveland, Cuyahoga Co, OH, USA (Lin)   6. Re: Dunn & Witt in Cleveland, Cuyahoga Co, OH, USA (Lin)   7. Re: Dunn & Witt in Cleveland, Cuyahoga Co, OH, USA       (Nivard Ovington) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 09:24:44 +0100 From: "libe" <libehast@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] registration information To: <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <ED3C8E69B3B4465B8B19C2D2E30D8175@JohnandPamPC> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="Windows-1252" Hello everyone, My query is regarding registration details not necessarily Yorkshire but it may have implications for any area. I wonder if any one can explain/confirm why this situation has arisen. This information is regarding a ?living? family therefore I do not want to give their actual names on site, so I have changed them On Ancestry.co.uk - I have a person born Margaret Spencer (mother?s maiden name Spencer) 19 years later she gets married to Andrew Chase. However there are two marriage registrations for Andrew Chase, in the same area, year and quarter One marries a Margaret Spencer and one a Margaret Light. There are  then  3 children born the eldest born to  Chase maiden name Spencer, the next two to  Chase maiden name Light ( I do know for certain that these children are from the same parents) Following a marriage split Margaret then reverts  to the last name Spencer. I am assuming rightly or wrongly that when Margaret was born her own mother was unmarried and either went on to marry a Light (although I cannot find a marriage) or that Margaret was adopted by the Light family, are there any other suggestions? Also does anyone  know why she was recorded as been married twice under different last names, is this common practice, plus why were two maiden names used for her own children. Has anyone come across this before, my concern is  that this could have real implications for people like me who search for marriages and  children using actual and maiden names. Because if I had used only the names Spencer and Chase I would not have found the other two children and vice versa Libe Hast ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 12:02:06 +0100 (BST) From: Kim Groothuis <kimsfamilyhistory@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] registration information To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com, libe <libehast@googlemail.com> Message-ID:     <1345978926.22175.YahooMailClassic@web171602.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Libe I agree with your assumption about Margaret's surname (became the stepchild or adopted child of a Light). If there was more than one name she could be known by, her marriage to Andrew Chase would be registered in both names, using words such as 'Margaret Spencer otherwise Light'.? I have seen two similar examples within the last 20 years. The childrens' births could well have used the same or similar words, and been transcribed differently (if you are looking at a transcription), ie different transcribers made different choices about what is the maiden name.? Alternatively Margaret could have given different maiden names and the certificates could have different maiden names; for example if she was answering different questions ('what was your name before you were married' or 'what was your name at birth'). Kim? --- On Sun, 26/8/12, libe <libehast@googlemail.com> wrote: On Ancestry.co.uk - I have a person born Margaret Spencer (mother?s maiden name Spencer) 19 years later she gets married to Andrew Chase. However there are two marriage registrations for Andrew Chase, in the same area, year and quarter One marries a Margaret Spencer and one a Margaret Light. There are? then? 3 children born the eldest born to? Chase maiden name Spencer, the next two to? Chase maiden name Light ( I do know for certain that these children are from the same parents) Following a marriage split Margaret then reverts? to the last name Spencer. I am assuming rightly or wrongly that when Margaret was born her own mother was unmarried and either went on to marry a Light (although I cannot find a marriage) or that Margaret was adopted by the Light family, are there any other suggestions? Also does anyone? know why she was recorded as been married twice under different last names, is this common practice, plus why were two maiden names used for her own children. Libe Hast ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 09:25:01 -0400 From: "Carole Edwards Caruso" <carolec@stny.rr.com> Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Free BMD To: <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <190276F20EDE48798E5369AA68074C73@Blackie> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";     reply-type=original >I have a problem viewing the final image on Free BMD. >My problem is that when I click the spectacles  icon to >view the image, >it just shows a blank white page. I, too, am having a problem viewing the final image on Free BMD. I am using W7, 64 bit, Firefox vers. 14.0.1, which, I think, is the latest update. I think the problem started when I updated Firefox. Everything works fine with XP and an older version of Firefox. So where do we go from here? Carole ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 14:56:09 +0100 From: Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Free BMD To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <503A2AF9.8030205@sky.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi Carole I have a laptop with W7 64bit and both IE and Firefox with latest updates work just fine so its not either browser as such but could be a setting in the browser I wonder what anti virus you use? Norton or McAfee by any chance ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > I, too, am having a problem viewing the final image on Free > BMD. > > I am using W7, 64 bit, Firefox vers. 14.0.1, which, I think, > is the latest update. > > I think the problem started when I updated Firefox. > > Everything works fine with XP and an older version of > Firefox. > > So where do we go from here? > > Carole ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 17:08:10 +0100 From: Lin <dml5481@hotmail.com> Subject: [YORKSGEN] Dunn & Witt in Cleveland, Cuyahoga Co, OH, USA To: YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP326A18C36FE63BA6DBE9030A2A30@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Can anyone tell me what industry Dunn and Witt were involved with? Thanks Lin -- PLEASE REMOVE NAMES & email ADDRESSES BEFORE FORWARDING. USE THE Bcc BOX FOR YOUR NAMES & ADDRESSES WHICH WILL HELP ELIMINATE UNWANTED EMAILS ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 17:46:07 +0100 From: Lin <dml5481@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Dunn & Witt in Cleveland, Cuyahoga Co, OH, USA To: Mlou1173@aol.com, YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP75D2FAA011A9E9212EB74EA2A30@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Hi Mary Lou I'm afraid I've no idea. I just came across a possible family member in the City Directory - just gave his name, with 'wks Dunn and Witt'.  Knowing what Dunn and Witt did would hopefully tell me if  I have a match. Lin PLEASE REMOVE NAMES & email ADDRESSES BEFORE FORWARDING. USE THE Bcc BOX FOR YOUR NAMES & ADDRESSES WHICH WILL HELP ELIMINATE UNWANTED EMAILS On 26/08/2012 17:41, Mlou1173@aol.com wrote: > Hi Lin......they "may" have been involved in street cars. Does that fit? > mary lou > In a message dated 8/26/2012 10:10:56 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, > dml5481@hotmail.com writes: > >    Can anyone tell me what industry Dunn and Witt were involved with? > >    Thanks > >    Lin >    -- >    PLEASE REMOVE NAMES & email ADDRESSES BEFORE FORWARDING. USE THE >    Bcc BOX >    FOR YOUR NAMES & ADDRESSES WHICH WILL HELP ELIMINATE UNWANTED EMAILS >    ..... >    Ancestors in Yorkshire? >    http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; >    www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; >    www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > >    ------------------------------- >    To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >    YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >    the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 18:46:07 +0100 From: Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Dunn & Witt in Cleveland, Cuyahoga Co, OH, USA To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <503A60DF.8080307@sky.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi Lin If you go to Archive.org and enter Cuyahoga you will find several books on the County The 1879 History lists a WITT but not a DUNN & WITT but other books may help you The 1870 WITTs in Cuyahoga are either a labourer, a carpenter and a Blacksmith all the older males were from Prussia Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 26/08/2012 17:08, Lin wrote: > Can anyone tell me what industry Dunn and Witt were involved with? > > Thanks > > Lin > ------------------------------ To contact the YORKSGEN list administrator, send an email to YORKSGEN-admin@rootsweb.com. 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