Is Joyce Render still out there on the listings? I went to school with your sister Doreen. In NZ it is Family History Month and this week our local family history group is having an open week. This morning a lady came in who I was involved with. She was a Yorkshire lady herself, and still had a lovely regional accent, she had RENDER ancestors in the Leeds/Bradford area. If these may be connected to your family can you let me know and I will then be able to put you in contact with her (she had masses of 'stuff'). All the best. Macha