i personally thought it was the worst ever episode of who do you think youare, i know we like to fleshout the bones of ourancestors but that wasn't family history research at all it was just a documentary about patrick stewart's dad. i was really looking forward to it too as i'm a bit of a trekkie!! trace ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Tetley" <richard.tetley@virgin.net> To: <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] WDYTYA? Patrick Stewart > Roy, > > Although I enjoyed the programme, I found myself criticising them for > jumping to conclusions. > > From a newspaper report saying that he was suffering from shell shock > in 1940, they seemed to conclude that the reason he was a wife-beater > was all down to that. > > However, he went on to have much further involvement in the war, indeed > he volunteered for the paras and was promoted to RSM. That doesn't sound > like a man who was suffering from shell shock, post traumatic stress or > whatever you like to call it these days. > > I think it is entirely possible that he was in a marriage that he didn't > really want to be in (he initially joined the army to try to escape his > responsibilities), and that he was happier in the army than out of it. I > think it's true that many men who fought in WW2 just couldn't adapt to > civilian life after all the excitement of wartime service. (Some of them > actually got a buzz out of fighting, and the camaraderie of being > amongst men). A man who had risen to the rank of RSM would be accustomed > to men jumping at his every command. Maybe he couldn't cope with a wife > and kids who didn't blindly obey him. > > I don't think that the programme actually drilled down enough to find > the character of his father (which is really what it was about). > > As with many of these programmes, I was left wanting to know more! I > know that they can only fit so much into an hour, and there are > limitations to how much research they can do with the resources > available. Nevertheless, to jump to a handy conclusion is against my > instincts. > > regards > Richard > > > On 29/08/2012 22:20, roy.stockdill@btinternet.com wrote: >> I have just watched tonight's episode of Who Do Think You Are? about the >> actor Patrick >> Stewart, born at Mirfield in 1940. >> >> I don't think I have ever seen such a superb and moving programme in this >> entire series > > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I agree with Trace on this.    I was very disappointed with this particular "episode".   Takes all kinds I suppose! (VBG!)   Mollie ________________________________ From: Spring Flower <spring.flower@polomint.plus.com> To: Richard Tetley <richard.tetley@virgin.net>; yorksgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 31 August 2012, 14:39 Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] WDYTYA? Patrick Stewart i personally thought it was the worst ever episode of who do you think youare, i know we like to fleshout the bones of ourancestors but that wasn't family history research at all it was just a documentary about patrick stewart's dad.  i was really looking forward to it too as i'm a bit of a trekkie!! trace ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Tetley" <richard.tetley@virgin.net> To: <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] WDYTYA? Patrick Stewart > Roy, > > Although I enjoyed the programme, I found myself criticising them for > jumping to conclusions. > > From a newspaper report saying that he was suffering from shell shock > in 1940, they seemed to conclude that the reason he was a wife-beater > was all down to that. > > However, he went on to have much further involvement in the war, indeed > he volunteered for the paras and was promoted to RSM. That doesn't sound > like a man who was suffering from shell shock, post traumatic stress or > whatever you like to call it these days. > > I think it is entirely possible that he was in a marriage that he didn't > really want to be in (he initially joined the army to try to escape his > responsibilities), and that he was happier in the army than out of it. I > think it's true that many men who fought in WW2 just couldn't adapt to > civilian life after all the excitement of wartime service. (Some of them > actually got a buzz out of fighting, and the camaraderie of being > amongst men). A man who had risen to the rank of RSM would be accustomed > to men jumping at his every command. Maybe he couldn't cope with a wife > and kids who didn't blindly obey him. > > I don't think that the programme actually drilled down enough to find > the character of his father (which is really what it was about). > > As with many of these programmes, I was left wanting to know more! I > know that they can only fit so much into an hour, and there are > limitations to how much research they can do with the resources > available. Nevertheless, to jump to a handy conclusion is against my > instincts. > > regards > Richard > > > On 29/08/2012 22:20, roy.stockdill@btinternet.com wrote: >> I have just watched tonight's episode of Who Do Think You Are? about the >> actor Patrick >> Stewart, born at Mirfield in 1940. >> >> I don't think I have ever seen such a superb and moving programme in this >> entire series > > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 14:39:14 +0100 "Spring Flower" <spring.flower@polomint.plus.com> wrote: Hello Spring, >i was really looking forward to it too as i'm a bit of a >trekkie!! What were you expecting? Sir Patrick to be related to Worf somehow? Or Data, perhaps? :-)) -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" I'm surfing on a wave of nostalgia for an age yet to come Nostalgia - Buzzcocks