Roy has reminded us that this July markes the 368th anniversary of the Battle of Marston Moor. Here's a tidbit from my own family tree that should warm the cockles of Roy's parliamentarian heart! :-) My family Parliamentarians? I shudder at the thought! No offense meant, Roy. This is my only, albeit direct, connection with Yorkshire. Except for one very early ancestor who, as a Don in Oxford, was expelled to the colonies for repeatedly writing nasty ditties about his fellow dons and his intemperate behaviour, the remainder of my colonial ancestors were from Norfolk and the South of England and were solid Puritans. I prefer this lot. William BOYNTON is my 8 x great grandfather. I am descended, in NH, from his great-granddaughter Martha's marriage to Timony Tilton on 25 December 1746. William died 8 December 1686 in Rowley, Essex, Massachusets, which is where he and most of the family actually lived. William Boynton and his brother John were part of the group of Yorkshire families who sailed to America in 1637, arriving in Boston in 1638 and later, in 1639, founding fathers of Rowley. Also according to these researchers, William and John were supported in this by Sir Mathew Boynton, Sheriff of Scarborough, who supported Cromwell although two of Sir Mathew's sons remained faithful to the King and were killed at Marston Moor. Were my William and John supporters of the king, which is why they went to America in the first place? Perhaps, as they did not do so for monetary reasons as the group of families who sailed are said to have been wealthy, yet there is the fact that both were apparently funded in their venture by Sir Mathew, an avowed Parliamentarian. Did they also support Cromwell? Perhaps. You will note the above TILTON-BOYNTON connection. One of Timothy Tilton's great great-uncles, who by 1638 had arrived in Saugus, Lynn, MA with their father William, later gave refuge to one of the judges who had condemned Charles I to death and who had fled England after the restoration of the monarchy. That judge is said to have been hidden in this Tilton's house for several years after his arrival in America as most colonials at the time were royalist and it was not safe for them to go out. No amount of research that I have been able to carry out in Yorkshire establishes the nature of the relationship between Sir Mathew, of Burton Agnes in Yorkshire, and William and John - other than their bearing the same surname. But then, the entire Boynton pedigree, as it is published online, purporting to go back to the 900s, is "remarkable" to say the least and the further back one goes, the more questions/doubts that I have. In fact, what appears online is a prime example of how not to do family research in this day and age. Just look at Ancestry and there is a plethora of BOYNTON/BYINGTON family trees that appear to cross-reference each other as sources, sometimes in contradiction with the facts they give. They can't even get together on the spelling of places - we have Sudbury/Sedbury/Sadbury - all for the same individuals and sometimes for several individuals in a same tree. One just does not know what to believe. Obviously a serious topic of research at the Borthwick if I ever manage to get back to Yorksgen. Perhaps next year? I would love to contact other BOYNTON relatives who might be able to establish the William/John - Sir Mathew of Burton Agnes connection. Magdalena -- *MAGDALENA GORRELL GUIMARAENS* *Member of Council for the Portugal Region* *AIIC* *- International Association of Conference Interpreters* www.aiicportugal.pt prt-region-councilmembers@aiic.net<http://prt-region-councilmembers.aiic.net/> *MGG *m.gorrell@aiic.net http://www.mgorrell.eu tiltonpt@gmail.com *Membro da Direcção Nacional do SNATTI* Sindicato Nacional da Actividade Turística Tradutores e Intérpretes http://www.snatti.org AIIC Mail - A service provided by the International Association of Conference Interpreters --- http://aiic.net

Magdalena I found reading this of great interest because I do have a number of BOYNTON namers on my tree. This includes William b 1605 East Yorkshire and died 1686 Ipswich, Essex, Mass. I don't have his parents nor his brothers name. William married Elizabeth Jackson in Utah in 1830. I haven't all their children listed but do have Caleb BOYNTON b 1650 whose second wife is Hannah Harriman m 1674 Hannah's 3 x great niece married Christopher FORD (b 1800 Bridlington) who is the brother of my 3 x great grandmother Rachel FORD Before I go any further I just want to check if these are the same names on your tree? I am off to Canada on Tuesday to meet the descendants of Christopher FORD. Victor On 24/05/2012 12:00 PM, Magdalena GORRELL GUIMARAENS wrote: > Roy has reminded us that this July markes the 368th anniversary of the > Battle of Marston Moor. Here's a tidbit from my own family tree that > should warm the cockles of Roy's parliamentarian heart! :-) My family > Parliamentarians? I shudder at the thought! No offense meant, Roy. This > is my only, albeit direct, connection with Yorkshire. Except for one very > early ancestor who, as a Don in Oxford, was expelled to the colonies for > repeatedly writing nasty ditties about his fellow dons and his intemperate > behaviour, the remainder of my colonial ancestors were from Norfolk and the > South of England and were solid Puritans. I prefer this lot. > > William BOYNTON is my 8 x great grandfather. I am descended, in NH, from > his great-granddaughter Martha's marriage to Timony Tilton on 25 December > 1746. William died 8 December 1686 in Rowley, Essex, Massachusets, which is > where he and most of the family actually lived. > > William Boynton and his brother John were part of the group of Yorkshire > families who sailed to America in 1637, arriving in Boston in 1638 and > later, in 1639, founding fathers of Rowley. Also according to these > researchers, William and John were supported in this by Sir Mathew Boynton, > Sheriff of Scarborough, who supported Cromwell although two of Sir Mathew's > sons remained faithful to the King and were killed at Marston Moor. > > Were my William and John supporters of the king, which is why they went to > America in the first place? Perhaps, as they did not do so for monetary > reasons as the group of families who sailed are said to have been wealthy, > yet there is the fact that both were apparently funded in their venture by > Sir Mathew, an avowed Parliamentarian. Did they also support Cromwell? > Perhaps. You will note the above TILTON-BOYNTON connection. One of > Timothy Tilton's great great-uncles, who by 1638 had arrived in Saugus, > Lynn, MA with their father William, later gave refuge to one of the judges > who had condemned Charles I to death and who had fled England after the > restoration of the monarchy. That judge is said to have been hidden in this > Tilton's house for several years after his arrival in America as most > colonials at the time were royalist and it was not safe for them to go out. > > No amount of research that I have been able to carry out in Yorkshire > establishes the nature of the relationship between Sir Mathew, of Burton > Agnes in Yorkshire, and William and John - other than their bearing the > same surname. But then, the entire Boynton pedigree, as it is published > online, purporting to go back to the 900s, is "remarkable" to say the least > and the further back one goes, the more questions/doubts that I have. In > fact, what appears online is a prime example of how not to do family > research in this day and age. Just look at Ancestry and there is a plethora > of BOYNTON/BYINGTON family trees that appear to cross-reference each other > as sources, sometimes in contradiction with the facts they give. They can't > even get together on the spelling of places - we have > Sudbury/Sedbury/Sadbury - all for the same individuals and sometimes for > several individuals in a same tree. One just does not know what to believe. > Obviously a serious topic of research at the Borthwick if I ever manage to > get back to Yorksgen. Perhaps next year? > > I would love to contact other BOYNTON relatives who might be able to > establish the William/John - Sir Mathew of Burton Agnes connection. > > Magdalena >

Magdalena I can't help you with Boynton connections to your family (I don't think) - but I do have an interesting snippit! My ancestors (Batman) lived in the village of Copmanthorpe adjoining the battlefield at Marston Moor at the time of the battle - the lords of the manor of Copmanthorpe were the Boynton family, owning large acreage around the battlefield. Phil Batman -----Original Message----- From: Magdalena GORRELL GUIMARAENS <m.gorrell@aiic.net> To: yorksgen rootsweb <YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, 24 May 2012 12:02 Subject: [YORKSGEN] BOYNTON and Marston Moor Roy has reminded us that this July markes the 368th anniversary of theBattle of Marston Moor. Here's a tidbit from my own family tree thatshould warm the cockles of Roy's parliamentarian heart! :-) My familyParliamentarians? I shudder at the thought! No offense meant, Roy. Thisis my only, albeit direct, connection with Yorkshire. Except for one veryearly ancestor who, as a Don in Oxford, was expelled to the colonies forrepeatedly writing nasty ditties about his fellow dons and his intemperatebehaviour, the remainder of my colonial ancestors were from Norfolk and theSouth of England and were solid Puritans. I prefer this lot.William BOYNTON is my 8 x great grandfather. I am descended, in NH, fromhis great-granddaughter Martha's marriage to Timony Tilton on 25 December1746. William died 8 December 1686 in Rowley, Essex, Massachusets, which iswhere he and most of the family actually lived.William Boynton and his brother John were part of the group of Yorkshirefamilies who sailed to America in 1637, arriving in Boston in 1638 andlater, in 1639, founding fathers of Rowley. Also according to theseresearchers, William and John were supported in this by Sir Mathew Boynton,Sheriff of Scarborough, who supported Cromwell although two of Sir Mathew'ssons remained faithful to the King and were killed at Marston Moor.Were my William and John supporters of the king, which is why they went toAmerica in the first place? Perhaps, as they did not do so for monetaryreasons as the group of families who sailed are said to have been wealthy,yet there is the fact that both were apparently funded in their venture bySir Mathew, an avowed Parliamentarian. Did they also support Cromwell?Perhaps. You will note the above TILTON-BOYNTON connection. One ofTimothy Tilton's great great-uncles, who by 1638 had arrived in Saugus,Lynn, MA with their father William, later gave refuge to one of the judgeswho had condemned Charles I to death and who had fled England after therestoration of the monarchy. That judge is said to have been hidden in thisTilton's house for several years after his arrival in America as mostcolonials at the time were royalist and it was not safe for them to go out.No amount of research that I have been able to carry out in Yorkshireestablishes the nature of the relationship between Sir Mathew, of BurtonAgnes in Yorkshire, and William and John - other than their bearing thesame surname. But then, the entire Boynton pedigree, as it is publishedonline, purporting to go back to the 900s, is "remarkable" to say the leastand the further back one goes, the more questions/doubts that I have. Infact, what appears online is a prime example of how not to do familyresearch in this day and age. Just look at Ancestry and there is a plethoraof BOYNTON/BYINGTON family trees that appear to cross-reference each otheras sources, sometimes in contradiction with the facts they give. They can'teven get together on the spelling of places - we haveSudbury/Sedbury/Sadbury - all for the same individuals and sometimes forseveral individuals in a same tree. One just does not know what to believe.Obviously a serious topic of research at the Borthwick if I ever manage toget back to Yorksgen. Perhaps next year?I would love to contact other BOYNTON relatives who might be able toestablish the William/John - Sir Mathew of Burton Agnes connection.Magdalena-- *MAGDALENA GORRELL GUIMARAENS**Member of Council for the Portugal Region**AIIC* *- International Association of Conference Interpreters*www.aiicportugal.ptprt-region-councilmembers@aiic.net<http:/ /prt-region-councilmembers.aiic.net/>*MGG*m.gorrell@aiic.net http://www.mgorrell.eu tiltonpt@gmail.com*Membro da Direcção Nacional do SNATTI*Sindicato Nacional da Actividade Turística Tradutores e Intérpreteshttp://www.snatti.orgAIIC Mail - A service provided by the International Association of Conference Interpreters--- http://aiic.net .....Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html;www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk;www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk;-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message