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    1. Re: [YORKSGEN] Nursing records
    2. CHRISTINE WILLOTT
    3. Hi Bob, You need to do some background reading on the history of women carers. Off the top of my head Barbara Ehrinreich's writing may be of help. You cannot put today's interpretation of the word 'nurse' onto the mid 19th century. Simplistically - in the past most people could not afford a doctor so a tradition of women carers arose whereby knowledge was passed down by word of mouth from mother to daughter. Hence the term 'old wives tales'.  Remember medical knowledge at the time was often not much better! Often the woman who delivered the babies also laid out the dead.  As far as 'professional' nursing in the UK goes, Florence Nightingale took her experiences and what she had learned in Germany in the 1850s to the Crimea. The Nightingale school of nursing was founded at St Thomas' in London in 1860. She was amongst the first in establishing professional nursing in the UK. You do not tell us if you think the photos are taken in Australia or the UK. You say there is a red cross on the 'veil'. This makes me wonder if the uniform comes from the time of the first world war. By the way, the original purpose of the nurses' cap was to prevent the wearer catching lice from the patient. You also have to remember the context of 19th century healthcare.  Essentially the levels were; If you were wealthy the doctor came to you at home. Even surgery was conducted in a patient's home Then there were the voluntary hospitals. Admission to these was controlled by people who had contributed financially to the hospital and could therefore nominate patients. If discharged as incurable, the patient was not allowed to be readmitted. Bottom of the heap was the workhouse hospital. Care was usually given by the workhouse inmates. The Royal College of Nursing in London have a history section.  http://www.rcn.org.uk/development/communities/specialisms/history_of_nursing They may be able to help you with identifying the uniform. I am inclined to think your Nurse Jackson  was a woman carer or that the date is later. HTH Chris ________________________________ From: Bob May <tpibob44@bigpond.com> To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 21 May 2012, 8:40 Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Nursing records My mystery deepens when I unpacked a case of photos today. Among them are some dura type (on glass photos) and on the back of one is Nurse Jackson 1854 Died 1860 (this is the alleged date of birth of Alice below - did she die in child birth - but also Alice was a Nurse + midwife) then two other names Alfred 1854 (son I am guessing) and I think it is Shirley 1857 (dau?) then To Edith May 9 1907 There is another that could have been the same woman at a younger age or could be a daughter and another of three women, the centre one, I believe is the said nurse and of the other two, one dress in dark clothing like her maybe a sister and the other in white maybe a younger sister or niece. There is also a male - is it the Alfred above or her husband? On all these there is a familial likeness. Two other photos are definitely different. One of them is a Marrett as it matches another photo I have and the other may be a Richards as it fits into the families that are connected and a likeness to a descendant. The Marrett photos are possibly John c 1820-1892 Modbury and or Samuel c 1859-1929 Dry Creek/Gilles Plains. Also a photo of a group of ladies in white uniform with a cross at the front of the veil and a sigh Modbury Circle top and bottom of a circle with a cross in the centre. Standing slightly separate as you would expect a matron is a woman who looks very much like the Nurse Jackson above. Bob DNA Projects I2*, ISOGG new I2b, I2c HG & Tyler Surname and ISOGG YTree  A Fair Deal for Members of the Defence and Ex Service Community. From: Bob May <tpibob44@bigpond.com> To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 20 May 2012, 12:29 Subject: [YORKSGEN] Nursing records Hi all Any hints of where to look for records for a Nursing Sister married in SA 26 Apr 1881 St Luke Church Adelaide South Australia She was born in Yorkshire c 1860 and according to the information on her death certificate she was in Australia from c 1874 so would estimate she was 14 when she moved. With or without her family? Also because of her age she trained in Australia, but could she have been in service to a Doctor who emigrated and she went as well? Her name Alice (Ann on some certificates and not on others) Jackson father John Some hint of a family story that she went with her brother searching for their father, so suspect mother dies around this time. No real help from census records to date as the likely ones by name can all be found by marriage or 1881 census still in UK. Bob DNA Projects I2*, ISOGG new I2b, I2c HG & Tyler Surname and ISOGG YTree  A Fair Deal for Members of the Defence and Ex Service Community. ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/21/2012 03:52:36
    1. Re: [YORKSGEN] Nursing records
    2. Bob May
    3. Christine Thanks for the references. I have had a breakthrough with this photo. It is taken during WW1 most probably in Adelaide SA and I have had the sixth person from left in rear row identified as Rosa Simcock nee Marrett. And they are Red Cross ladies. The photo graph I have of Nurse Jackson would seem to be taken in Yorkshire and she would appear to be the mother of Alice Jackson b 1860 who I am informed was also a nurse. Alice would have arrived in Australia about 1874 age 14 and was married in Adelaide in 1881 to James Richards (b Somerset) and d Norwood 1932 Bob DNA Projects I2*, ISOGG new I2b, I2c HG & Tyler Surname and ISOGG YTree A Fair Deal for Members of the Defence and Ex Service Community. From: CHRISTINE WILLOTT [mailto:christine.willott@btopenworld.com] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 6:53 PM To: Bob May; yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Nursing records

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