These Marriages are on Ancestry, West Yorkshire Records. William Barker aged 46 widower & Mary Helm (nee Burdon?) aged 39 widow were married at St Andrews Church Ferry Fryston. They both list their abode as New Fryston, so they did not live in Doncaster or anywhere near, William is a Miner and he was possibly working at Fryston Colliery. Sharon -------------------------------------------------- From: "harold" <olddivi@talktalk.net> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 8:52 PM To: <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com>; <Yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] info > Hello Roy > many thanks for all the info > > I was in a dilemma as she lived south of Doncaster so it was a surprise > they > were married at Ponti they had a child in 1917 > so why go to Ponti to get married maybe they were living over the brush > and > did not want locals to know that > > William was the second husband and after him was another when she was i > think 77 > liked wedding cake i guess > I recall that event caused a few raised words when she told my mum she was > getting married at that age > and buy a cert well thats what i will do now i know it is her > as you will know we have short arms and deep pockets in Donny > > Edwin Helm was a farmer and inn keeper he died in N.Yorkshire and so they > were pretty well off we were told as kids but on the death of Edwin > she moved to Sunny Donny and as to why > thats another question we will never get a answer to > > when she died she had willed her body to research i believe in Newcastle > so > not burial cert > Many thanks for your help > regards Harold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> > To: <Yorksgen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 6:54 PM > Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] info > > >> From: "harold" <olddivi@talktalk.net> >> >>> i am trying to find out the marriage date of >>> >>> William Barker to Mary Helm about 1917 i have looked on BMD and found it >>> may be Pontefract >>> seems strange as they were living in the Doncaster area so why go to >>> ponti also looking for his William Barker death date and burial info >>> >>> also cant find where Christopher Burdon is Buried he died 25 >>> December 1935 and is death cert is registered in Bawtry Tickill >>> district 2 Jan 1936 >>> he is my G/G/father >>> Thanks for reading this >>> regards Harold > >> >> Actually, there is only one marriage that fits and it was in the >> Pontefract registration district in >> the September quarter of 1919, vol 9c page 274. >> >> If I may point it out, you are making a mistake in assuming that because >> the marriage took >> place in Pontefract RD it must have been at Pontefract itself. Not >> necessarily so! >> >> If you click on the underlined blue link of Pontefract at FreeBMD it >> takes >> you to another >> screen from which by clicking on yet another link - the word "here" - you >> will get a long list of >> all the sub-districts, places and parishes that were in the Pontefract >> registration district. The >> marriage could have been in any of these places and some of them may lie >> midway between >> Pontefract and Doncaster. You would have to study a map closely to see >> where the >> possibilities could be. I would start by assuming the marriage was in the >> bride's parish >> (though this is by no means always the case) and then study the 1911 >> census and see if you >> can find a Mary Helm who might fit the bill, since her is the more >> uncommon of the two >> names. >> >> Failing that, you could always buy the certificate! >> >> -- >> Roy Stockdill >> Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer >> Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ >> >> "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, >> and that is not being talked about." >> OSCAR WILDE >> >> >> >> >> ..... >> Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; >> www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; >> www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message