In a message dated 23/07/2012 11:06:15 GMT Daylight Time, martin@mbriscoe.me.uk writes: English High Tea would be a light snack of cakes and tea but it used to be quite common for Scottish hotels to do a High Tea between about 1700h (perhaps earlier) and 1800h (or later) with Dinner starting some time after 1900h. The menu would have a range of simple cooked dishes like sausage and chips, fish and chips etc which were served with plenty of toast then followed by a range of cakes and jam for the toast. Often the cooked dish would be similar of the same as those on the main Dinner menu so it could be cheaper alternative to Dinner without all the pomp. There would obviously be a big pot of tea or coffee as well. Martin Briscoe Fort William martin@mbriscoe.me.uk -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JJupar@aol.com Sent: 23 July 2012 10:45 To: kessie3@online.de; YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] High Teas In a message dated 23/07/2012 09:30:32 GMT Daylight Time, kessie3@online.de writes: When I asked my mother what a "High Tea" was she told me it's when you stand up and eat your tea off the shelf...... (mining humour...all her family were miners).Rita in Germany Hi, When you look at other peoples High Teas they seem to vary between countys. However it seems to vary a bit. The working and middle class families have a big High Tea but the upper classes have a lighter afternoon tea with sandwiches and littler cakes because they are going to have another meal later. I am not class conscious but and I didn't know how to explain it otherwise. JUDY ELKINGTON [North Derbyshire] www.elkingtonfamily.com Elkington@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

From: JJupar@aol.com > In a message dated 23/07/2012 11:06:15 GMT Daylight Time, > martin@mbriscoe.me.uk writes: > English High Tea would be a light snack of cakes and tea but it used to be > quite common for Scottish hotels to do a High Tea between about 1700h > (perhaps earlier) and 1800h (or later) with Dinner starting some time after > 1900h. > > The menu would have a range of simple cooked dishes like sausage and chips, > fish and chips etc which were served with plenty of toast then followed by > a > range of cakes and jam for the toast. Often the cooked dish would be > similar of the same as those on the main Dinner menu so it could be cheaper > alternative to Dinner without all the pomp. > > There would obviously be a big pot of tea or coffee as well. > > > Martin Briscoe > Fort William > martin@mbriscoe.me.uk > > > -----Original Message----- > From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of JJupar@aol.com > Sent: 23 July 2012 10:45 > To: kessie3@online.de; YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] High Teas > > In a message dated 23/07/2012 09:30:32 GMT Daylight Time, > kessie3@online.de > writes: > When I asked my mother what a "High Tea" was she told me it's when you > stand up and eat your tea off the shelf...... (mining humour...all her > family were miners).Rita in Germany > > Hi, > > When you look at other peoples High Teas they seem to vary between > countys. However it seems to vary a bit. The working and middle class families > have a big High Tea but the upper classes have a lighter afternoon tea > with sandwiches and littler cakes because they are going to have another meal > later. > > I am not class conscious but and I didn't know how to explain it > otherwise. > > JUDY ELKINGTON > [North Derbyshire]> All this talk of High Teas with sausage and chips, cakes and sandwiches, etc, is making me wonder what sort of childhood and upbringing listers had. When I were nobbut a kid in'th' wartime we were lucky to get a piece of stale bread with pork dripping for 'us tea! What's more, because our parents couldn't afford to buy us shoes we were sent to school with more pieces of hard, stale bread strapped to 'us feet. Cue Monty Python's wonderful Five Yorkshiremen sketch.....! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

It is South Wales rather than Yorkshire but I always recommend people read this book for a real eye opener on conditions within living memory Struggle or Starve Edited by Carol White and Sian Rhiannon Williams ISBN 9781870206259 It is a series of memories of women of their lives in South Wales between the two World Wars. One story always sticks in my memory. A girl who went with her father to visit an Uncle who lived some distance away. They could not afford the bus so walked, a milkman gave them a lift and she looked so starved that he gave her a bottle of milk - I think she wrote it was the first time she had milk but might have been the first time she had a whole bottle. The Uncle gave them the bus fare home but they agreed to walk to the next stop to save a penny or so. She had been given an apple and planned to take to share with her siblings but was still so hungry that she ate it - all of it including core and pips. When they got home her mother was ill in bed and the family had not eaten all day, the only food in the house was a bit of dripping in a jar so her brothers went down the street collecting empty jam jars to exchange at the shop for enough to buy half a loaf of bread. That was all they had for the whole family, a slice of bread with dripping on it. Her mother woke up and asked for some goose fat to rub on her chest - that was the "dripping" they had eaten. I suspect that parts of Yorkshire would be as bad. Incidentally, the book says that shoes (or more likely boots) were very important. Without them a child might not be able to get to school in Winter which would mean they might not get a square meal. So the Quakers had a man who went around repairing boots at schools and often a father would carry his child to school if they had no boots to wear to ensure they got a meal. Martin Briscoe Fort William martin@mbriscoe.me.uk -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of roy.stockdill@btinternet.com Sent: 23 July 2012 13:24 To: Yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] High Teas All this talk of High Teas with sausage and chips, cakes and sandwiches, etc, is making me wonder what sort of childhood and upbringing listers had. When I were nobbut a kid in'th' wartime we were lucky to get a piece of stale bread with pork dripping for 'us tea! What's more, because our parents couldn't afford to buy us shoes we were sent to school with more pieces of hard, stale bread strapped to 'us feet. Cue Monty Python's wonderful Five Yorkshiremen sketch.....! -- Roy Stockdill

High tea in the South West was served about 7pm - I stayed with a Dorset farming family while my parents were abroad and we always had high tea on Sundays cold meats, salads, bread & butter and puddings often blancmange served with very thin bread and butter. My Yorkshire family high teas were along the same lines - nothing cooked a 'cold collation' basically a fancy way of saying what handy that included cakes and pies from the last week's baking. My Grandmother followed a long line of cooks with wide reportoire and whose recipes echoed down the generations but it should perhaps be borne in mind that 3/4 of my great parents originated in Staffordshire so maybe this was actually a Midlands custom Wendy -----Original Message----- From: roy.stockdill@btinternet.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 1:24 PM To: Yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] High Teas From: JJupar@aol.com > In a message dated 23/07/2012 11:06:15 GMT Daylight Time, > martin@mbriscoe.me.uk writes: > English High Tea would be a light snack of cakes and tea but it used to > be > quite common for Scottish hotels to do a High Tea between about 1700h > (perhaps earlier) and 1800h (or later) with Dinner starting some time > after > 1900h. > > The menu would have a range of simple cooked dishes like sausage and > chips, > fish and chips etc which were served with plenty of toast then followed > by > a > range of cakes and jam for the toast. Often the cooked dish would be > similar of the same as those on the main Dinner menu so it could be > cheaper > alternative to Dinner without all the pomp. > > There would obviously be a big pot of tea or coffee as well. > > > Martin Briscoe > Fort William > martin@mbriscoe.me.uk > > > -----Original Message----- > From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of JJupar@aol.com > Sent: 23 July 2012 10:45 > To: kessie3@online.de; YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] High Teas > > In a message dated 23/07/2012 09:30:32 GMT Daylight Time, > kessie3@online.de > writes: > When I asked my mother what a "High Tea" was she told me it's when you > stand up and eat your tea off the shelf...... (mining humour...all her > family were miners).Rita in Germany > > Hi, > > When you look at other peoples High Teas they seem to vary between > countys. However it seems to vary a bit. The working and middle class > families > have a big High Tea but the upper classes have a lighter afternoon tea > with sandwiches and littler cakes because they are going to have another > meal > later. > > I am not class conscious but and I didn't know how to explain it > otherwise. > > JUDY ELKINGTON > [North Derbyshire]> All this talk of High Teas with sausage and chips, cakes and sandwiches, etc, is making me wonder what sort of childhood and upbringing listers had. When I were nobbut a kid in'th' wartime we were lucky to get a piece of stale bread with pork dripping for 'us tea! What's more, because our parents couldn't afford to buy us shoes we were sent to school with more pieces of hard, stale bread strapped to 'us feet. Cue Monty Python's wonderful Five Yorkshiremen sketch.....! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message