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    1. Re: [YORKSGEN] Name change by Deed Poll
    2. Wendy King
    3. In my experience this type of name change before marriage is nothing to do having been divorced. A divorced woman can return to her birth name and generally uses her decree nisi as evidence rather than make a name change by deed poll. Name change deed poll was a way of holding the same name as the partner you were living with before marriage. This meant that you appeared on official documents such as electoral registers, bank and personal records as though you were married. If you google name change by deed poll you will get links to the national archives (you have to visit to check dates etc. as the index is not on line) and a number of sites giving clear explanations of the process etc. I think you are confusing annulment with dissolution. Dissolution is the term used to indicate that a couple has severed all ties after a divorce : Divorce (or the dissolution of marriage) is the final termination of a marital union, cancelling the legal duties and responsibilities of marriage and dissolving the bonds of matrimony between the parties (unlike annulment, which declares the marriage null and void). As such it is not limited to any particular religious faith. Wendy -----Original Message----- From: Carol Lylyk Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:59 PM To: YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] Name change by Deed Poll My relative Pamela HALLERON, born 1948 in York married Roger Merchant (formerly Parker) in 1970. When I received the death certificate for her father who died in 1984 I noticed that informant was Pamela NICHOLSON, daughter. I found a marriage of a Kenneth Michael Nicholson and Pamela Nicholson on FreeBMD so sent for that certificate. It states that Pamela Nicholson (name changed by deed poll) and Kenneth Nicholson married in 1991 and that her marriage had been previously dissolved. I am wondering if there is any way of finding out when she had her name changed and why the marriage was dissolved. I thought at first that maybe they had been married in a Catholic church and that is why the term 'dissolved' was used but the first marriage was in a Church of England. The sad part of this saga is that she died 5 days later of cancer. I guess they decided to make it legal while there was still time. Carol Lylyk Calgary Canada ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/20/2012 04:20:44
    1. Re: [YORKSGEN] Name change by Deed Poll
    2. Carol Lylyk
    3. I am guessing that she was probably living with Kenneth Nicholson after (or maybe before) her divorce from Roger Merchant so I imagine that is when she changed her surname to Nicholson. Carol Lylyk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy King" <wendyking37@hotmail.com> To: "Carol Lylyk" <clylyk@telus.net>; <YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 3:20 AM Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Name change by Deed Poll > In my experience this type of name change before marriage is nothing to do > having been divorced. A divorced woman can return to her birth name and > generally uses her decree nisi as evidence rather than make a name change by > deed poll. Name change deed poll was a way of holding the same name as the > partner you were living with before marriage. This meant that you appeared on > official documents such as electoral registers, bank and personal records as > though you were married. > > If you google name change by deed poll you will get links to the national > archives (you have to visit to check dates etc. as the index is not on line) > and a number of sites giving clear explanations of the process etc. > > I think you are confusing annulment with dissolution. Dissolution is the term > used to indicate that a couple has severed all ties after a divorce : Divorce > (or the dissolution of marriage) is the final termination of a marital union, > cancelling the legal duties and responsibilities of marriage and dissolving > the bonds of matrimony between the parties (unlike annulment, which declares > the marriage null and void). As such it is not limited to any particular > religious faith. > > Wendy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carol Lylyk > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:59 PM > To: YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [YORKSGEN] Name change by Deed Poll > > My relative Pamela HALLERON, born 1948 in York married Roger Merchant > (formerly > Parker) in 1970. When I received the death certificate for her father who > died > in 1984 I noticed that informant was Pamela NICHOLSON, daughter. > I found a marriage of a Kenneth Michael Nicholson and Pamela Nicholson on > FreeBMD so sent for that certificate. > It states that Pamela Nicholson (name changed by deed poll) and Kenneth > Nicholson married in 1991 and that her marriage had been previously dissolved. > > I am wondering if there is any way of finding out when she had her name > changed > and why the marriage was dissolved. I thought at first that maybe they had > been > married in a Catholic church and that is why the term 'dissolved' was used but > the first marriage was in a Church of England. > > The sad part of this saga is that she died 5 days later of cancer. I guess > they > decided to make it legal while there was still time. > > Carol Lylyk > Calgary > Canada > > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5278 - Release Date: 09/19/12 >

    09/20/2012 03:18:05
    1. Re: [YORKSGEN] Name change by Deed Poll
    2. Wendy King
    3. That was my point - people often could not afford to divorce or the other partner refused an uncontested (ie cheaper) divorce. Therefore to live together with the appearance of being a married couple at work (social security number) and socially some women changed their name by deed poll. You would need to check when the divorce occurred - perhaps some time after they had started living together. If you can look at electoral rolls or find out when she changed her name you will get an idea of the sequence of events. Several of my friends in this position did not bother with marriage for years after the divorce - often in later life to tidy up the legal consequences of not being married to the spouse. Wendy -----Original Message----- From: Carol Lylyk Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 4:18 AM To: Wendy King ; YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Name change by Deed Poll I am guessing that she was probably living with Kenneth Nicholson after (or maybe before) her divorce from Roger Merchant so I imagine that is when she changed her surname to Nicholson. Carol Lylyk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy King" <wendyking37@hotmail.com> To: "Carol Lylyk" <clylyk@telus.net>; <YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 3:20 AM Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Name change by Deed Poll > In my experience this type of name change before marriage is nothing to do > having been divorced. A divorced woman can return to her birth name and > generally uses her decree nisi as evidence rather than make a name change > by deed poll. Name change deed poll was a way of holding the same name as > the partner you were living with before marriage. This meant that you > appeared on official documents such as electoral registers, bank and > personal records as though you were married. > > If you google name change by deed poll you will get links to the national > archives (you have to visit to check dates etc. as the index is not on > line) and a number of sites giving clear explanations of the process etc. > > I think you are confusing annulment with dissolution. Dissolution is the > term used to indicate that a couple has severed all ties after a divorce : > Divorce (or the dissolution of marriage) is the final termination of a > marital union, cancelling the legal duties and responsibilities of > marriage and dissolving the bonds of matrimony between the parties (unlike > annulment, which declares the marriage null and void). As such it is not > limited to any particular religious faith. > > Wendy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carol Lylyk > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:59 PM > To: YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [YORKSGEN] Name change by Deed Poll > > My relative Pamela HALLERON, born 1948 in York married Roger Merchant > (formerly > Parker) in 1970. When I received the death certificate for her father who > died > in 1984 I noticed that informant was Pamela NICHOLSON, daughter. > I found a marriage of a Kenneth Michael Nicholson and Pamela Nicholson on > FreeBMD so sent for that certificate. > It states that Pamela Nicholson (name changed by deed poll) and Kenneth > Nicholson married in 1991 and that her marriage had been previously > dissolved. > > I am wondering if there is any way of finding out when she had her name > changed > and why the marriage was dissolved. I thought at first that maybe they > had been > married in a Catholic church and that is why the term 'dissolved' was used > but > the first marriage was in a Church of England. > > The sad part of this saga is that she died 5 days later of cancer. I > guess they > decided to make it legal while there was still time. > > Carol Lylyk > Calgary > Canada > > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5278 - Release Date: 09/19/12 >

    09/21/2012 02:43:18