Hi Jane, Robert is mentioned in passing of this article of the origin of Weldrake. It mentions a John and Barbary Weldrake and I thinkit was a Judith, daughter of robert Weldrake being baptised. http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Weldrake I was wondering if it is possible that you may need to look for a spinster birth. I was wondering if maybe Barbary,tough that may not be correct. the reason I mention it is,I had my brothers ydna done a few years back and was disappointed to find that he didnt match, two descendants of brothers either side of my great grandfather. I am left with wondering whether one of my great grannies did the wrong thing while their man was away in service or whether my 2nd great gf sisters or grand daughters had a child out of wedlock and was passed of as the child of my great great or great grandparents. I do have two daughters of my 3rd Great Grandfather missing, they were born 1840's so who knows if they went away to give birth. it is hard to know,though at nearly 72, I am not going to worry too much about it as the PLACE family is the family I have always belonged to. I do feel whoever the child who started my brothers ydna off was part of the family though, either by the fem! ale line or a great granny by marriage. Still cannot find the right line (what ever that surname will be as there is no surname that stands out a lot.) and seem to be related to every man and his dog. I have stopped looking at the results, as none match my maiden surname. No doubt my fathers child as we also had a nephew tested who matches my brothers, and he looks like my dad a bit (out of the country at time of conception Ha Ha) so pretty much means it is correct. I am sure your Robert will turn up. I always like to look outside of the box. Have you looked in Ireland? I do beleive too, that it was not essential to be baptised and if a spinster birth, she may not have broadcast the fact. Frowned on in those days. Edie Tasmania ------------------------------------------ From: Jane Woodall via <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> To: Nancy Magnusson <nancie451@gmail.com>; "Yorksgen@rootsweb.com" <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, 12 January 2016, 4:53 Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] A word of encouragement but not Yorkshire I wish mine would shout up. Robert Weldrake arrived in Birstall, West Yorkshire 1780 with wife Susannah - give me a clue where you were married or born!! I've searched everywhere....! Pleased for your discoveries, but so envious!! Jane Chasing W(h)eldrake/drick - any variation, anytime, anywhere (Mars also considered...!) Happy hunting folks -----Original Message-----

thanks very much Edie and everyone who has offered ideas. First off - yes I mistyped. Robert and Susannah had their son John baptised in Birstall parish church in 1708. Barbary was Robert and Susannah's daughter born 1713. She married John Brearley, clothier, of Cleckheaton in 1740 but it looks as if she died young. In 1762 John Brearley, widower, of Cleckheaton married Mary Scholes. So if anyone has the death date of Barbary Brearley, that would be wonderful. Another little gap closed. Judith was Barbary's niece by her younger brother Robert (son of Robert and Susannah.) There were people using the Wheldrake surname (or Queldric - one of the medieval variations) well before 1272 in and near to York (close to Wheldrake where it comes from.) I've tried researching all the Wheldrake families (with 42 spelling variations) that I can find pre 1700 just to see if I can find Robert since I started this hobby in 1991. Still no luck! I've mapped the parishes where the surname is found so next step is to try adjoining ones to see if they were there. I'll keep going... he's out there somewhere! Interestingly there is an Irish line - John Weldrake 1694, brewer in Dublin (must have gone over from Yorkshire, maybe with the army or something) and there are still Weldricks there today. Not found John either to link him into my families..... anyone missing a brewer?! I'm sure a lot of children were raised never knowing their big sister was actually their mum or that their dad wasn't really their dad - but were loved just as much anyway. Best wishes Jane -----Original Message----- From: eamca@bigpond.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 3:44 AM To: jane.woodall@virgin.net ; yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: RE:Re: [YORKSGEN] A word of encouragement but not Yorkshire Hi Jane, Robert is mentioned in passing of this article of the origin of Weldrake. It mentions a John and Barbary Weldrake and I thinkit was a Judith, daughter of robert Weldrake being baptised. http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Weldrake I was wondering if it is possible that you may need to look for a spinster birth. I was wondering if maybe Barbary,tough that may not be correct. the reason I mention it is,I had my brothers ydna done a few years back and was disappointed to find that he didnt match, two descendants of brothers either side of my great grandfather. I am left with wondering whether one of my great grannies did the wrong thing while their man was away in service or whether my 2nd great gf sisters or grand daughters had a child out of wedlock and was passed of as the child of my great great or great grandparents. I do have two daughters of my 3rd Great Grandfather missing, they were born 1840's so who knows if they went away to give birth. it is hard to know,though at nearly 72, I am not going to worry too much about it as the PLACE family is the family I have always belonged to. I do feel whoever the child who started my brothers ydna off was part of the family though, either by the female line or a great granny by marriage. Still cannot find the right line (what ever that surname will be as there is no surname that stands out a lot.) and seem to be related to every man and his dog. I have stopped looking at the results, as none match my maiden surname. No doubt my fathers child as we also had a nephew tested who matches my brothers, and he looks like my dad a bit (out of the country at time of conception Ha Ha) so pretty much means it is correct. I am sure your Robert will turn up. I always like to look outside of the box. Have you looked in Ireland? I do beleive too, that it was not essential to be baptised and if a spinster birth, she may not have broadcast the fact. Frowned on in those days. Edie Tasmania ------------------------------------------ From: Jane Woodall via <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> To: Nancy Magnusson <nancie451@gmail.com>; "Yorksgen@rootsweb.com" <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, 12 January 2016, 4:53 Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] A word of encouragement but not Yorkshire I wish mine would shout up. Robert Weldrake arrived in Birstall, West Yorkshire 1780 with wife Susannah - give me a clue where you were married or born!! I've searched everywhere....! Pleased for your discoveries, but so envious!! Jane Chasing W(h)eldrake/drick - any variation, anytime, anywhere (Mars also considered...!) Happy hunting folks -----Original Message-----