Jane, I was interested in your case as I too have an elusive ancestor who was married and died in Halifax, West Riding. I have no idea where he was born or to whom like your Robert. Though yours wasnt from the same part of Yorkshire. Ireland became a contender to look for me, when I discovered the baptism of a Alexander PLACE, too early for mine but a good father for him , this one was baptised in North Molton, Devon 1735 to George and Mary. Then nothing else for him there or his parents. George being a prominent name in my family early on. Alexander and Georges used as first and second names. Then in the National Archive, I found a Contract between a Alexander PLACE, linen draper, Dublin and three English men to find minerals to be used in art, in County Cavan. So the search has been on ever since to find the marriage of this Alexander Place, who baptised three daughters at St Johns in Dublin where he was a Church Warden and his wife Elizabeth, there is no surname for her but it is possibly Lee as my confirmed Alexander Place gave Lee as a second name to his son Alexander Lee Place born Halifax wry in 1821, he died aged 15 in 1837 before registration. So I know your frustration and many other fo! lk too. With my known Alexander I have seen quite a few adverts in the paper. I have two burial ages, in 1835, 51/57, so one might think that neither are right. I do not have the Irish Linen Drapers death date either, but it should be before 1835 as that would be a hundred years if it is the Devon Alexander PLACE. I have this hunch that since I cannot find the linen draper s marriage or death, it could have been in the Catholic Church, St Johns where the daughters are baptised is Church of Ireland. He might have married a Catholic lady and there may be some sons baptised there, named Alexander. I know he had one son George Place the miniature portrait painter as I have seen Georges death notice that says he was son of a Linen Drape,r 2 Essex Street Dublin, which is the address of Alexander, so dont give up on Ireland as yet as maybe we will both find our ancestor there. I have yet to see another linen draper who lived in 2 Essex street with a surname PLACE, so at the moment Al! exander is the only linen draper in Dublin with that surname, but he may have had brothers that havent surfaced. Edie ------------------------------------------ From: Jane Woodall <jane.woodall@virgin.net> To: eamca@bigpond.com; yorksgen@rootsweb.com; Subject: Re: RE:Re: [YORKSGEN] A word of encouragement but not Yorkshire thanks very much Edie and everyone who has offered ideas. First off - yes I mistyped. Robert and Susannah had their son John baptised in Birstall parish church in 1708.