Hi Lin, Yes I have the daughters baptisms from that site. A lot more records going online for Ireland now. As you can see by the record they have only Elizabeth as mother no surname. Like you the middle name Lee in my 2nd Great Grandfather was mentioned on my 3rd Great Grandfathers second marriage and that is the only time I have ever seen it mentioned. I have alsoseen marriages for Caroline and Amelia one in Scotland and one in Ireland and nothing yet for the eldest girl Katherine. there is also no baptism for George Place the portrait painter and that is why I am still hoping to find my Alexander as a son to Alexander PLACE the linen draper in some other Church. the reason why I haven't thought that maybe his was a spinster birth to a woman named LEE is because as I mentioned in my posting several days ago is that my great grandfather had two brothers, one either side of him in age. both those brothers have a descendant who has tested their ydna and they match with other ea! rlier PLACE families in the 1600's , so I know , Alexander was a PLACE,but don't as yet know where the LEE comes from. We do think it possible we are on the right track in Ireland, thugh the marriage may not have taken placein Dublin, he was there as early as 1775 when his Haberdashery business took off. I have seen the newspapers where he is mentionedi n ads. And possibly LEE was the surname of Elizabeth the wife of Alexander PLACE. If only we could find the marriage It is hard when you do live so far away. Most records can be seen in a subscription or online, but occasionally there are documents that can only be viewed in the Archives. I was told there was a pedigree chart with the marriage of Alexander PLACE to Elizabeth LEE but I have never seen it first hand. As you know we have to confirmed everything, you cannot do that if you haven't seen the article with your own eyes. It was a LEE pedigree not a PLACE one. I have many of them for Yorkshire etc. Thanks Lin for responding Edie Tasmania ------------------------------------------ From: Lin <dml5481@hotmail.com> To: eamca@bigpond.com; yorksgen@rootsweb.com; Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Robert Weldrake/Weldrich etc and variants Edie Have you looked at this site? http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/ Could see two baptism transcript for Alexander's daughter's but sadly no image as yet. I was lucky to find my elusive 2x great grandfather's baptism on this site and from that was able to locate his death in Hull. He was given the middle name Richard which he only ever used on one of his children's marriage certificate. After fruitless searches in Hull there was one with that middle name so sent for the certificate and it turned out to be the correct one. Lin On 13 January 2016, at 23:09, eamca via <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: Jane, I was interested in your case as I too have an elusive ancestor who was married and died in Halifax, West Riding. I have no idea where he was born or to whom like your Robert. Though yours wasnt from the same part of Yorkshire. Ireland became a contender to look for me, when I discovered the baptism of a Alexander PLACE, too early for mine but a good father for him , this one was baptised in North Molton, Devon 1735 to George and Mary. Then nothing else for him there or his parents. George being a prominent name in my family early on. Alexander and Georges used as first and second names. Then in the National Archive, I found a Contract between a Alexander PLACE, linen draper, Dublin and three English men to find minerals to be used in art, in County Cavan. So the search has been on ever since to find the marriage of this Alexander Place, who baptised three daughters at St Johns in Dublin where he was a Church Warden and his wife Elizabeth, there is no surname for her but it is possibly Lee as my confirmed Alexander Place gave Lee as a second name to his son Alexander Lee Place born Halifax wry in 1821, he died aged 15 in 1837 before registration. So I know your frustration and many other fo! lk too. With my known Alexander I have seen quite a few adverts in the paper. I have two burial ages, in 1835, 51/57, so one might think that neither are right. I do not have the Irish Linen Drapers death date either, but it should be before 1835 as that would be a hundred years if it is the Devon Alexander PLACE. I have this hunch that since I cannot find the linen draper s marriage or death, it could have been in the Catholic Church, St Johns where the daughters are baptised is Church of Ireland. He might have married a Catholic lady and there may be some sons baptised there, named Alexander. I know he had one son George Place the miniature portrait painter as I have seen Georges death notice that says he was son of a Linen Drape,r 2 Essex Street Dublin, which is the address of Alexander, so dont give up on Ireland as yet as maybe we will both find our ancestor there. I have yet to see another linen draper who lived in 2 Essex street with a surname PLACE, so at the moment Al! exander is the only linen draper in Dublin with that surname, but he may have had brothers that havent surfaced. Edie ------------------------------------------ From: Jane Woodall <jane.woodall@virgin.net> To: eamca@bigpond.com; yorksgen@rootsweb.com; Subject: Re: RE:Re: [YORKSGEN] A word of encouragement but not Yorkshire thanks very much Edie and everyone who has offered ideas. First off - yes I mistyped. Robert and Susannah had their son John baptised in Birstall parish church in 1708. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message