I suppose that we all record in our own way. I was born in North Yorkshire. It changed to Teesside It changed to Cleveland It is now Middlesbrough, with no county as it is classed as a County Town. All of my records are listed as Middlesbrough, North Yorkshire to give consistency. I address all of my mail in the same manner. I list Sculcoates as "Sculcoates, Hull" for the same reason, consistency, whether right or wrong. Incidentally, how about York? Most put York, Yorkshire, I put York, England as it is similar to Middlesbrough a place within itself. Lancelot Middlesbrough

Oh my, I never even gave Humberside a passing thought, although that is of course how I address mail to my aunts and uncles and cousins, etc. Won't use that. In a message dated 3/31/2016 7:03:06 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, yorksgen@rootsweb.com writes: I always use the Geographical location for addresses and have had assurances from the Post Office that these are still valid.I was born in the East Riding of Yorkshire, and that is what I use, I refuse to change it to "Humberside"or East Yorkshire.The "original" Geographical divisions DO still exist. The "New" designations are purely for administrationpurposes. Pam To: pjrich.ntl@googlemail.com; yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 11:05:56 +0100 > Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Sculcoates > From: yorksgen@rootsweb.com > > What do you mean, Peter, by 'after the Ridings disappeared'? > They have not disappeared. > > As you point out, 'South Yorkshire' is classed as a metropolitan county &, > to many > people this causes frustration ---- not only from a genealogical point of > view, but in > modern day activities, too. As, of course, does the use of the much hated > 'Humberside' > which only exists for Police etc., though the Post Office still clings to it > 20 years after > its abolition! > > Janet > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter J Richardson via > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 8:25 AM > To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Sculcoates > > Hello Kathryne, > > I try to record the information that was correct at the time that the event > was recorded. My great great great grandfather married there in 1816 and I > have recorded it as being Sculcoates, Yorkshire East Riding. If I had an > event to record after the Ridings disappeared that would mean that > Sculcoates would be recorded non-uniformally. > > Another example that occurs in my family is some of the areas of southern > Sheffield. Back in the 1840s they were in Derbyshire, then they became part > of Yorkshire West Riding, then the metropolitan country of South Yorkshire. > I would try to use the one that was relevant to the event being recorded. > > Regards > Peter > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I always list it as Sculcoates, East Yorkshire, England Sculcoates covers the places outside Kingston Upon Hull. Places like Cottingham, Willerby, Hessle, Anlaby and it is the registration area for these places. To get the full list of places covered go to http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/sculcoates.html Sculcoates Registration district was in use between 1837 to March 1937. That link also shows the areas 'lost' after that date. That is when there were changes in the registration districts Victor On 31/03/2016 2:42 AM, MomNat via wrote: > Hello All, > In looking over my records (I am using FTM 16), I find that I have listed > Sculcoates in different ways. I want it to be listed uniformly of course, > right? but which is most accurate? I realize that Sculcoates is pretty much > just part of Hull now, but that this was not always the case. And, shouldn't > I always say England? > I have: > Sculcoates, East Yorkshire, England > Sculcoates, Kingston-upon-Hull, Yorkshire > Sculcoates, Yorkshire > > My father was big on saying East Yorkshire. > > Thanks for any suggestions. > Kathryne > New York USA > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Kathryne, I try to record the information that was correct at the time that the event was recorded. My great great great grandfather married there in 1816 and I have recorded it as being Sculcoates, Yorkshire East Riding. If I had an event to record after the Ridings disappeared that would mean that Sculcoates would be recorded non-uniformally. Another example that occurs in my family is some of the areas of southern Sheffield. Back in the 1840s they were in Derbyshire, then they became part of Yorkshire West Riding, then the metropolitan country of South Yorkshire. I would try to use the one that was relevant to the event being recorded. Regards Peter -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MomNat via Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 02:42 To: YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] Sculcoates Hello All, In looking over my records (I am using FTM 16), I find that I have listed Sculcoates in different ways. I want it to be listed uniformly of course, right? but which is most accurate? I realize that Sculcoates is pretty much just part of Hull now, but that this was not always the case. And, shouldn't I always say England? I have: Sculcoates, East Yorkshire, England Sculcoates, Kingston-upon-Hull, Yorkshire Sculcoates, Yorkshire My father was big on saying East Yorkshire. Thanks for any suggestions. Kathryne New York USA

Hello All, In looking over my records (I am using FTM 16), I find that I have listed Sculcoates in different ways. I want it to be listed uniformly of course, right? but which is most accurate? I realize that Sculcoates is pretty much just part of Hull now, but that this was not always the case. And, shouldn't I always say England? I have: Sculcoates, East Yorkshire, England Sculcoates, Kingston-upon-Hull, Yorkshire Sculcoates, Yorkshire My father was big on saying East Yorkshire. Thanks for any suggestions. Kathryne New York USA

I have an ancestor who’s will was proved at Wakefield in 1860. This is too late for the full text on Ancestry so I wonder if anybody knows if there is any way to see more details online than is given in the national probate calendar. Thanks Peter Sainte Mondane, France Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Hi Peter You would have to buy the will unless by chance someone else has already done so You might find a mention in the newspapers but usually only large estates or a very brief report of it (ie the value) From 1858 onwards all wills were under the civil system, beforehand they were under ecclesiastical courts Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30/03/2016 09:38, Peter Lee via wrote: > I have an ancestor who’s will was proved at Wakefield in 1860. This is too late for the full text on Ancestry so I wonder if anybody knows if there is any way to see more details online than is given in the national probate calendar. > > Thanks > Peter > Sainte Mondane, France --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

On 28/03/2016 18:12, Ruth Appleby via wrote: > Is anyone aware of an online index to Prerogative Court of York wills ? > > Ruth > > Sent from my iPhone > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > There were available on British Origins, so I imagine they will be now on Find My Past, who took over Origins. Colin --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

My thanks to everyone who pointed me in the direction of FMP. Ryth Sent from my iPad

*Prerogative & Exchequer Courts Of York Probate Index, 1688-1858* *York Medieval Probate Index, 1267-1500* *York **Peculiars** Probate Index, 1383-1883* All these can be found on FindMyPast Depends on your dates Ruth. Find my Past has 1267 - 1500 & 1688 - 1858 I think most of the missing gap can be filled via YAS volumes, some of which are available on Internet Archive Dave -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ruth Appleby via Sent: 28 March 2016 17:12 To: Mike Johnson; yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] PCY Wills Is anyone aware of an online index to Prerogative Court of York wills ? Ruth Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ruth Findmypast list Prerogative & Exchequer Courts of York Probate Index 1688 - 1858 And York Peculiars Probate Index 1383 - 1883 And York Medieval Probate Index 1267 - 1500 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 28/03/2016 17:12, Ruth Appleby via wrote: > Is anyone aware of an online index to Prerogative Court of York wills ? > > Ruth --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Depends on your dates Ruth. Find my Past has 1267 - 1500 & 1688 - 1858 I think most of the missing gap can be filled via YAS volumes, some of which are available on Internet Archive Dave -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ruth Appleby via Sent: 28 March 2016 17:12 To: Mike Johnson; yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] PCY Wills Is anyone aware of an online index to Prerogative Court of York wills ? Ruth Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

They may be on FindMyPast, as they were part of the data held by Origins who have now been bought out by FindMyPast On 28 Mar 2016 5:14 p.m., "Ruth Appleby via" <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Is anyone aware of an online index to Prerogative Court of York wills ? > > Ruth > > Sent from my iPhone > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Is anyone aware of an online index to Prerogative Court of York wills ? Ruth Sent from my iPhone

Hi Lin, Thank you for the suggestion, will try that later today (Australian time), happy hunting, AnnetteAt 11:31 AM 28/03/2016, you wrote: >-------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] New West Yorkshire Archives > From: Lin <dml5481@hotmail.com> > Sent: Monday, 28 March 2016 00:26 > To: Annette Watson <annete@aapt.net.au>,Nivard Ovington > <ovington.one@gmail.com>,yorksgen@rootsweb.com > CC: > >Hi Annette > >I've just tried those the records on my kindle using a registered >guest account and silk browser and had no problem viewing the images. > >Have you tried registering as a guest user to see if you can view the images? > >Lin > >On 28 March 2016, at 00:09, Annette Watson via <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >Hi Nivard, > >I have checked on Ancestry, Australian Electoral Rolls (for me), 1841 >Census for >Darton, Yks and West Yorkshire BMDs, all images appear as usual, have checked >the Quarter Sessions Records - no image, just a message to upgrade to >World sub, >I used the names of Richard EASTWOOD, William FRANCE and Peter TAYLOR, >tried the first listed of each name. > >Happy hunting, >Annette > > > >At 11:09 PM 27/03/2016, you wrote: > >Hi Martin & Annette > > > >There have been the odd incorrectly linked images or wrongly assigned > >datasets but in this case I don't think that is the case > > > >The dataset comes up under UK records and I can access it via an account > >that only has UK records access > > > >So it appears to me to be something on Annettes computer stopping the > >access > > > >Annette, do you have any problems with other images? or just the > >Yorkshire quarter sessions, and is it all images in that dataset or just > >a few > > > >Do you have a sample for me to try? > > > >Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > >On 27/03/2016 10:44, Martin Briscoe (W10 laptop) via wrote: > > > I was wondering whether Ancestry has made some sort of mistake in the way > > > they flag access to those particular records, it has been known to happen > > > previously and can take some time to get them to correct. > > > > > > I have a separate Ancestry free account that I sometimes use > when they have > > > these free offers to check what is available so I can pass on details to > > > friends who are not Ancestry subscribers. > > > > > > Martin Briscoe > > > Fort William > > > martin@mbriscoe.me.uk > > > >--- > >This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > >https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

 Thanks for the very helpful info on getting up the missing images from the search data.  My only problem was finding the last - image - number.  I was dealing with box 35, so the directions were very helpful getting to the right film, but finding the actual image was a nightmare.  Very few of the images had a readable bundle number, some of the images had nothing on them whatsoever, and I finally found the number I was looking for - 76 - at image 414, by which time I'd nearly given up!  I don't know any easier way to have found it, except just going through them and checking about every 5 or so to see if I was near the right date.  At least, they did seem to be going more or less in date order.  But what a nightmare! And I had trouble trying to save the images in any really readable format.  I ended up doing a "print screen" at the highest possible zoom, 3 or 4 times for each page, and otherwise saving into my picture files.  Does anyone have any better suggestion for saving?  Printing them out from the file doesn't give a very large image, not really readable at all.Diane  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave King via" <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> To: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington.one@gmail.com>; <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 5:17 AM Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Richmond wills on Ancestry > For anyone who has had difficulty With missing images in this new dataset > on Ancestry, I have had the following very helpful suggestion from West > Yorkshire Archives, and confirmation that the full set of images should be > there > > > " .. if you find any index only entries to probate records there is a way > to try to find the associated image.  If you make a note of the document > reference number there is a way to browse the records using that number. > Each of the Archdeaconry of Richmond probate records start with the > reference RD/AP1.  The next part of the reference number refers to the > boxes they are found in and the last part of the number is the individual > item number.  So, for instance, if you were to search for the records of > Bryan Pick you'll get an index card with the reference RD/AP1/157/126; the > number 157 refers to box 157 and the number 126 is the 126th bundle within > that box. > > The images do seem to be there but for some reason they're not linking to > the index pages. To find them, from the Ancestry home page, click on > 'Search' and then 'Card Catalog'.  Type 'Yorkshire Probate' into the > search box and this will provide a link directly to the probate records > from the West Yorkshire Archive Service. > >>From here, you'll see a drop down menu on the right hand side of the >>screen saying 'Browse this collection or Browse Individual Records in this >>Title. To browse this image set, select from the options below.' > This then should allow you to choose the relevant box number (see below). > You can then choose the exact box number and then click on that to browse > the image data set.  The records should have been filmed in number order. > It's also worth noting that the cover sheet for each of the wills contains > the reference number of the document so you are able to check you've got > the right one.  Bryan Pick's will is image 525 of 580 for instance. " > > Dave

Hi Nivard, I have checked on Ancestry, Australian Electoral Rolls (for me), 1841 Census for Darton, Yks and West Yorkshire BMDs, all images appear as usual, have checked the Quarter Sessions Records - no image, just a message to upgrade to World sub, I used the names of Richard EASTWOOD, William FRANCE and Peter TAYLOR, tried the first listed of each name. Happy hunting, Annette At 11:09 PM 27/03/2016, you wrote: >Hi Martin & Annette > >There have been the odd incorrectly linked images or wrongly assigned >datasets but in this case I don't think that is the case > >The dataset comes up under UK records and I can access it via an account >that only has UK records access > >So it appears to me to be something on Annettes computer stopping the >access > >Annette, do you have any problems with other images? or just the >Yorkshire quarter sessions, and is it all images in that dataset or just >a few > >Do you have a sample for me to try? > >Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >On 27/03/2016 10:44, Martin Briscoe (W10 laptop) via wrote: > > I was wondering whether Ancestry has made some sort of mistake in the way > > they flag access to those particular records, it has been known to happen > > previously and can take some time to get them to correct. > > > > I have a separate Ancestry free account that I sometimes use when they have > > these free offers to check what is available so I can pass on details to > > friends who are not Ancestry subscribers. > > > > Martin Briscoe > > Fort William > > martin@mbriscoe.me.uk > >--- >This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Annette I just tried the Richard EASTWOOD 1638 event Using my normal account with Firefox & Win7 the image opens with no problem Using Internet Explorer and a guest account with no subscription, the image opens with no problem Whilst I appreciate you have managed to open the images using the link, your problem will be when the free access period ends and you may not have access to those images that you are entitled to view So something is awry with your settings or retained cookies to my way of thinking Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 28/03/2016 00:08, Annette Watson wrote: > Hi Nivard, > > I have checked on Ancestry, Australian Electoral Rolls (for me), 1841 > Census for > Darton, Yks and West Yorkshire BMDs, all images appear as usual, have > checked > the Quarter Sessions Records - no image, just a message to upgrade to > World sub, > I used the names of Richard EASTWOOD, William FRANCE and Peter TAYLOR, > tried the first listed of each name. > > Happy hunting, > Annette --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] New West Yorkshire Archives From: Lin <dml5481@hotmail.com> Sent: Monday, 28 March 2016 00:26 To: Annette Watson <annete@aapt.net.au>,Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com>,yorksgen@rootsweb.com CC: Hi Annette I've just tried those the records on my kindle using a registered guest account and silk browser and had no problem viewing the images. Have you tried registering as a guest user to see if you can view the images? Lin On 28 March 2016, at 00:09, Annette Watson via <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hi Nivard, I have checked on Ancestry, Australian Electoral Rolls (for me), 1841 Census for Darton, Yks and West Yorkshire BMDs, all images appear as usual, have checked the Quarter Sessions Records - no image, just a message to upgrade to World sub, I used the names of Richard EASTWOOD, William FRANCE and Peter TAYLOR, tried the first listed of each name. Happy hunting, Annette At 11:09 PM 27/03/2016, you wrote: >Hi Martin & Annette > >There have been the odd incorrectly linked images or wrongly assigned >datasets but in this case I don't think that is the case > >The dataset comes up under UK records and I can access it via an account >that only has UK records access > >So it appears to me to be something on Annettes computer stopping the >access > >Annette, do you have any problems with other images? or just the >Yorkshire quarter sessions, and is it all images in that dataset or just >a few > >Do you have a sample for me to try? > >Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >On 27/03/2016 10:44, Martin Briscoe (W10 laptop) via wrote: > > I was wondering whether Ancestry has made some sort of mistake in the way > > they flag access to those particular records, it has been known to happen > > previously and can take some time to get them to correct. > > > > I have a separate Ancestry free account that I sometimes use when they have > > these free offers to check what is available so I can pass on details to > > friends who are not Ancestry subscribers. > > > > Martin Briscoe > > Fort William > > martin@mbriscoe.me.uk > >--- >This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Annette I've just tried those the records on my kindle using a registered guest account and silk browser and had no problem viewing the images. Have you tried registering as a guest user to see if you can view the images? Lin On 28 March 2016, at 00:09, Annette Watson via <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hi Nivard, I have checked on Ancestry, Australian Electoral Rolls (for me), 1841 Census for Darton, Yks and West Yorkshire BMDs, all images appear as usual, have checked the Quarter Sessions Records - no image, just a message to upgrade to World sub, I used the names of Richard EASTWOOD, William FRANCE and Peter TAYLOR, tried the first listed of each name. Happy hunting, Annette At 11:09 PM 27/03/2016, you wrote: >Hi Martin & Annette > >There have been the odd incorrectly linked images or wrongly assigned >datasets but in this case I don't think that is the case > >The dataset comes up under UK records and I can access it via an account >that only has UK records access > >So it appears to me to be something on Annettes computer stopping the >access > >Annette, do you have any problems with other images? or just the >Yorkshire quarter sessions, and is it all images in that dataset or just >a few > >Do you have a sample for me to try? > >Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >On 27/03/2016 10:44, Martin Briscoe (W10 laptop) via wrote: > > I was wondering whether Ancestry has made some sort of mistake in the way > > they flag access to those particular records, it has been known to happen > > previously and can take some time to get them to correct. > > > > I have a separate Ancestry free account that I sometimes use when they have > > these free offers to check what is available so I can pass on details to > > friends who are not Ancestry subscribers. > > > > Martin Briscoe > > Fort William > > martin@mbriscoe.me.uk > >--- >This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message