I read that article Victor.. I think it depends on what rules are set at the beginning. We have a lawn cemetery close by and the plaques are quite uniform with room for flowers, lawns are kept neat. I think sometimes Teddy bears, or some other item that meant something to the deceased is put there and I think it is an emotional time and doesnt hurt at the time of the funeral.. It depends on the condition of the adornment, it is up to the person who put it there to make sure it is taken away if it becomes an eyesore after the elements have got to it, I think. Most of the old graveyards have a variety of adornments in the way of Angels etc. Definitely the council or which body manages the cemetery should be in touch with the family if any alive and give them the choice of either tidying up or having it removed. At least find out if there are any family members alive who can deal with it. I dont think we have seen the problem over here where you havent got a choice of wh! at you want on your loved ones grave. You must admit some headstones, broken peices here and there are an eyesore and just plain neglected. Some folk it is a matter of not having the funds to fix up. Up to the family to tidy up or have items not in good repair removed, I guess. Edie ------------------------------------------ From: Victor Markham via <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> To: Yorksgen@rootsweb.com; Subject: [YORKSGEN] Cemetery adornments I know this is not Yorkshire but I am sue the problem happens in other cemeteries around the country if not the world. How would we deal with this if it was your local cemetery? http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/news/17773/This-graveyard-is-not-a-fairground.html Victor ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi board, Really struggling to find out where the following records relating to York Union Workhouse are kept. (1) Admissions and discharges for the period 1900-1912; (2) The Guardians' Minutes for the same years; and (3) Outdoor Relief application and report books for 1837-1929. In the first two cases, what I'm looking for in particular, are any records relating to York Union Workhouse Infirmary between 1900 and the end of 1912. According to Pete Higgingbotham's Workhouse site, they should be stored at York City Archives. Unfortunately, since the re-organisation, the place is in a pretty chaotic state, due to only around 20%+ of the their holdings being re-catalogued and a lack of local knowledge from the two archivists: the one that I've spoken to, by telephone and email had no knowledge of them or their whereabouts. Any help/tips would be very welcome. Thanks Mike
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Its disgraceful that people cannot mourn in the way they want to, within reason of course So many graves are never visited yet those that are get this treatment Scandalous There has to be guidelines but cut flowers only? no I will bet the same councillors don't have loved ones buried there Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 03/04/2016 17:39, Victor Markham via wrote: > I know this is not Yorkshire but I am sue the problem happens in other > cemeteries around the country if not the world. > > How would we deal with this if it was your local cemetery? > > http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/news/17773/This-graveyard-is-not-a-fairground.html > > Victor --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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I know this is not Yorkshire but I am sue the problem happens in other cemeteries around the country if not the world. How would we deal with this if it was your local cemetery? http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/news/17773/This-graveyard-is-not-a-fairground.html Victor
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Looking for anyone with any connection or knowledge of the following family. Martha Ann WAKEFIELD, b 1891, married Fred BARRACLOUGH, 21 July 1917 St Mary's Church, Barnsley. I know of only one child born to them. Lois I. BARRACLOUGH was born 3 Jan 1918, Barnsley. I believe she married in 1939 to a POTTER. In the 1939 Register I find Fred and Martha living on Albert Street, Barnsley. Also in the home is their daughter Lois I. BARRACLOUGH/POTTER and a Ronald WAKEFIELD, b 22 July 1915. There is a birth of Ronald D. Wakefield, 1915, mother's maiden name WAKEFIELD, registered in Doncaster. Does anyone have any knowledge of this Fred BARRACLOUGH and the daughter Lois? Does Ronald D. WAKEFIELD appear in anybodies tree that may give me a clue as to weather he was an illegitimate child of Martha's or a child of a WAKEFIELD relative? Any little tidbits would be greatly appreciated. Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada
63 of James Charles' paintings are on the Art UK website but not the two mentioned in the sale. Art UK used to be BBC Your Paintings and has a wide range of paintings, all searchable by title and subject. http://artuk.org/discover/artworks/search/actor:charles-james-18511906/page/ 4 You will have to register. "Welcome to Art UK, the online home for art from every public collection in the United Kingdom. Art UK, previously called the Public Catalogue Foundation, is a small charity. We work in partnership with 3,000 public collections, the BBC and other organisations to showcase the art the UK owns. Art UK already features over 200,000 oil paintings by some 38,000 artists. These artworks are in museums, universities, town halls, hospitals and other civic buildings across the United Kingdom. Most of this art is not on public view." Martin Briscoe Fort William martin@mbriscoe.me.uk -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter Wood via Sent: 03 April 2016 09:48 To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] Bradford Local Knowledge - Auction Sale Hello everyone. Could anyone tell me where I might obtain a copy of the particulars of an auction sale?
Leeds Times - Saturday 23 December 1899 Image C THE BRITISH LIBRARY BOARD. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Part of the collection of pictures belonging to Mr. John Maddocks, of Park Drive, Heaton, were sold by auction on Wednesday by Messrs. W. G. Stansfield and Co., Bradford. The catalogue contained 78 modern paintings, and there was considerable competition. The principal purchasers were Mr. Alfred Oddy, Mr. J. Roberts, Mr. J. Hill, Mr. Ryecroft, Mr. O. Rigg, and Mr. Horsfall, Keighley. The highest price realised was 120gs. for a farmyard scene by a Dutch artist. The works of James Charles also sold well, his "Gamekeeper's Boy" realising 85gs., whilst a similar price was given for "An Idle Hour," by the same artist. The rest of the prices varied from 12gs. to 50gs. -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter Wood via Sent: 03 April 2016 09:48 To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] Bradford Local Knowledge - Auction Sale Hello everyone. Could anyone tell me where I might obtain a copy of the particulars of an auction sale? The sale was of the first pictures sold out of the Maddocks Collection. The pictures were sold on 20th December 1899 by the firm of W.G. Stansfield & Co of 4 & 6 North Parade, Bradford. I am assisting in a project to try and trace oil paintings by the artist James CHARLES (1851-1906) many of which came up at this auction. A number of his patrons lived in Bradford. I have tried West Yorkshire Archives online but nothing appears for the firm called Stansfield. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Peter Wood Isle of Man ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello everyone. Could anyone tell me where I might obtain a copy of the particulars of an auction sale? The sale was of the first pictures sold out of the Maddocks Collection. The pictures were sold on 20th December 1899 by the firm of W.G. Stansfield & Co of 4 & 6 North Parade, Bradford. I am assisting in a project to try and trace oil paintings by the artist James CHARLES (1851-1906) many of which came up at this auction. A number of his patrons lived in Bradford. I have tried West Yorkshire Archives online but nothing appears for the firm called Stansfield. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Peter Wood Isle of Man
Dear all, When I set up the Genuki Yorkshire pages (1995) I thought long and hard about how to arrange things. My options were: 1. Set up by Ridings and the parishes that existed immediately before 1974. 2. Set up by Ridings and the Ancient parishes (pre compulsory civil registration) 3. Set up using the "plastic" counties of the post 1974 Yorkshire. 4. Set up using the registration districts. I decided to take option 2 and follow the ecclesiastical parishes pre 1830s when civil registration came in. My main reason for doing this is that most people can trace their ancestry back to the 1830s and then have problems due to not knowing which parish register a birth/death/marriage would be registered in. Setting up the parishes on Genuki and including all the places within the ancient parishes (which were reasonably stable for some 300 years before 1830) allows people to find the likely parish church (or chapel or ease) their ancestors would have used to register their B, D, or M in. Setting up the Genuki pages using the civil parishes would just have created confusion as not only did the borders of civil parishes change frequently, but there were none before the 1830s - have a look and see how the registration districts have changed over the past 100 years. Using the current counties of Yorkshire would have created confusion too, as for instance Great Mitton parish is now in Lancashire and Romaldkirk parish is now in County Durham and so someone finding their ancestors came from Romaldkirk would have gone to Genuki and found that there was no Romaldkirk in the Yorkshire pages. The current "East Riding of Yorkshire" is not the same area as the old East Riding, but the name was chosen in order to get rid of the hated "North Humberside" name. This was particularly hated by the people in the northern part of North Humberside for instance Bridlington which is some 30 miles from the Humber (you could just about drop the whole of Bedfordshire in the gap between the two). So, my recommendation is to use the ancient (ecclesiastical) parishes to place your ancestors as they have known fixed boundaries. Please don't confuse civil parishes or postal addresses (for instance, Great Smeaton, Northallerton) with ecclesiastical parishes. Hope this helps, Best wishes, Colin Hinson. In the village of Blunham in Bedfordshire U.K. Webmaster for the Genuki Yorkshire pages: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ The Yorkshire Surnames interest list: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/ Old and Rare Yorkshire Books on searchable CDroms: http://www.YorkshireCDbooks.com
Rod, I and others have mentioned that we record our ancestors place of birth etc the way it appeared at the time. just as important is to use an Atlas from that period, ie, the Phillimores Atlas, as it details little hamlets and towns no longer in existence or not mentioned in modern day times. Yorkshire is divided into Ridings in the Phillimore Atlas, and apart from that, it lists when events, such as Christenings, Weddings and burials took place in a Church and also when the Church was in existence, all these things are important when looking for say a baptism of someone who you knew to have been born in Tim Buck Too, you cannot automatically put they were baptised in Tim bucktoo as there may not have been a Church there at the time, so this is where the Phillimore Atlas is very useful. It will state whether or not there was a Church in existence and when the vents started as some Churches may have had say Baptisms but not weddings or burials at the time it was first buil! t. The Atlas also shows repositories for different records you may need.It comes on CD now and would have been updated from the Had copy. Not much point looking into a modern atlas for your ancestors movements becasue of all the baoundary changes, name changes, tha t have taken place since your ancestors time. Edie ------------------------------------------ From: Rod Moulding via <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> To: gwil_lee@msn.com; yorksgen@rootsweb.com; Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Sculcoates I've been watching this thread, which is (as Peter says) rather important. I've been surprised that no-one has enunciated the simple principle that so many of us follow: this is, record a place or address as it was at the time the event referred to happened.
I looked at Genuki first Nivard, but did a further search . Today Great Smeaton seems to come under Northhallerton, when you do a google search . Edie ------------------------------------------ From: Nivard Ovington via <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com; Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Sculcoates >From genuki The Ancient Parish of HORNBY [Transcribed information mainly from the early 1820s] "HORNBY, a parish in the wapentake of Hang East, and liberties of St. Peter's. and Richmondshire; 5 miles NW. of Bedale. Here is a church dedicated to St. Mary (see Churches for photograph); the living is a vicarage, in the patronage of the Dean and Chapter of York, and the Rev. J. Alderson, is the incumbent. Hornby castle one of the seats of His Grace the Duke of Leeds, is situated in this township. This mansion is a spacious structure of a mixed architecture, and the apartments are grand and superbly finished. The situation is commanding and from the battlements are seen to great advantage the rich and picturesque valley of Bedale, stretching up to the western moors and forming a grand and imposing contrast. Hornby castle was anciently the lordship and seat of the family of St. Quintin, from whom it passed to the Conyers, and ultimately to the Osbornes. Population, 102." And The Ancient Parish of GREAT SMEATON (in which there is) "HORNBY, in the parish of Great Smeaton, wapentake and liberty of Allertonshire; 1¼ miles NE. of Great Smeaton, 8 miles N. of Northallerton. The only place of worship in this village is a small Methodist chapel. The Grange in this township is the residence of Henry Howgill, Esq. Population, 238." Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 02/04/2016 12:33, eamca via wrote: > Graham, It looks to me if there is one Hornby but between two districts. Bedale and Great Smeaton in Northallerton. It appears to be much closer almost on the door step to Great Smeaton than Bedale though. Great Smeaton is in NorthallertonThere is a Hornby in Lancashire as well. I might even put, Hornby, nr, Great Smeaton, Northallerton, NRY, England > http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/place/multi_place_page.jsp?st=Hornby&c_id=0&c_type=0&expert=&sdx= > Edie --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Just one thing about the post office If you post a letter in Cottingham (East Yorkshire...there is one in Northamptonshire) it gets stamped with a Sheffield post mark! These days you have no idea where the letter came from. I spoke to my brother about this after he sent me a birthday card. I asked him why did he post it in Sheffield! He told me that if he posted a letter to someone living next door to him it will get a Sheffield post mark. That itself solved a mystery for me as for over a few years I had been received a Valentine card. As many of you may know sending such a card does not include the sender writing their name in it and the receiver had to guess who sent it. Well in my case looking at the postmark I had no knowledge of anyone living in that area. This happened for four years. I didn't get one this year so the sender must have thought I wasn't interested in her! To date I have no idea who sent it or who was 'desperate for me' (the words the sender wrote in the card). I still haven't a clue! Thanks to the post office I wonder who I have 'lost'! Victor On 02/04/2016 5:49 PM, Brad Rogers via wrote: > On Sat, 2 Apr 2016 16:07:40 +0100 > Janet Peacock via <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hello Janet, > > I knew it would happen (it always does)... > >> My comment about the Post Office, Victor, reflects the fact that many >> postcodes in the East Riding of Yorkshire begin 'YO'. This, >> according to the Post Office puts them in North Yorkshire & I have had > Complete and utter drivel. > > You're making the same error many people make; That Post Codes have > some sort of significance beyond their intended purpose, which is to > facilitate the routing of post. Codes serve no purpose to anybody > except the Royal Mail(1). They do not have any political significance. > The leading letters (in this case YO) serve to indicate the main sorting > office through which post should be passed to reach its final > destination. Post Codes have nothing to do with county, city or other > boundaries. > > (1) Note: NOT the Post Office - they're separate businesses and have > been for many years. Nowadays RM create post codes, not the Post Office. > I will concede that the codes came into existence prior to the > dismantling of the (then) Post Office into two businesses. >
-----Original Message----- From: Janet Peacock [mailto:JanMPeacock@hotmail.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2016 16:08 To: Peter J. Richardson <pjrich.ntl@googlemail.com>; yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Sculcoates > Whatever cities or counties are called by the politicians & administrators, traditions & personal loyalties will remain & that, Peter, is not merely sentiment, but heredity & culture. .....Until we shuffle off this mortal coil at least I don't suppose my young nieces, when they are old enough to take an interest in geography, will remember their city as being anywhere other than South Yorkshire. Labels such as "West Riding" will no doubt make them think of that other large city 30 miles up the M1. Regards Peter
You obviously haven't been following very closely ;-) As thats exactly what I said much earlier I record it as found in the period or record Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 02/04/2016 21:26, Rod Moulding via wrote: > I've been watching this thread, which is (as Peter says) rather important. > I've been surprised that no-one has enunciated the simple principle that so > many of us follow: this is, record a place or address as it was at the time > the event referred to happened. This means using the data that was > available to our forebears, and recognising that contemporary readers may > need to do some mental adjustment. So, "Yorkshire" not "East Yorkshire" nor > "East Riding" nor (definitely not) "Humberside". It also means "Gold Coast" > not "Ghana", "Straits Settlements" not "Malaysia" or even "Malaya", > "Galicia, Austria" not "Poland" or "Ukraine", and so forth. Be historically > faithful, both to your sources and to your forebears. > > Rod Moulding --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Graham, It looks to me if there is one Hornby but between two districts. Bedale and Great Smeaton in Northallerton. It appears to be much closer almost on the door step to Great Smeaton than Bedale though. Great Smeaton is in NorthallertonThere is a Hornby in Lancashire as well. I might even put, Hornby, nr, Great Smeaton, Northallerton, NRY, England http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/place/multi_place_page.jsp?st=Hornby&c_id=0&c_type=0&expert=&sdx= Edie ------------------------------------------ From: Graham Pearey via <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com; Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Sculcoates Can I ask how people record a place name where there are two instances in the same county. I have family who lived in Hornby, near Great Smeaton in NRY; however, there is also a Hornby, near Bedale. At the moment, I am writing Hornby (near Great Smeaton), North Riding of Yorkshire, England. Many thanks Graham
I've been watching this thread, which is (as Peter says) rather important. I've been surprised that no-one has enunciated the simple principle that so many of us follow: this is, record a place or address as it was at the time the event referred to happened. This means using the data that was available to our forebears, and recognising that contemporary readers may need to do some mental adjustment. So, "Yorkshire" not "East Yorkshire" nor "East Riding" nor (definitely not) "Humberside". It also means "Gold Coast" not "Ghana", "Straits Settlements" not "Malaysia" or even "Malaya", "Galicia, Austria" not "Poland" or "Ukraine", and so forth. Be historically faithful, both to your sources and to your forebears. Rod Moulding -----Original Message----- From: Peter Lee via Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2016 8:08 PM To: Janet Peacock via ; Peter J. Richardson ; yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Sculcoates This is an important thread because it goes to the heart of why many of us do family history; to find out where we come from and what our inheritance is. However, at first I was very surprised by your statement Janet that you still pay your tax to the East Riding council. Surely, I thought, she can’t be right the East Riding was abolished in 1974! But I have just looked at Wikipedia and this is what they say: “The East Riding of Yorkshire, or simply East Yorkshire, is a ceremonial county<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceremonial_counties_of_England> of England<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England>. It is located in the region of Yorkshire and the Humber<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yorkshire_and_the_Humber>. It is a local government district<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-metropolitan_district> with unitary authority<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitary_authority> status. For ceremonial purposes the county also includes the city of Kingston upon Hull<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingston_upon_Hull>, which is a separate unitary authority. It is named after the historic<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_counties_of_England> East Riding<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riding_(country_subdivision)> of Yorkshire<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yorkshire> (one of three ridings alongside the North Riding<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Riding_of_Yorkshire> and West Riding<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Riding_of_Yorkshire>), which also constituted a ceremonial and administrative county<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_counties_of_England> until 1974. From 1974 to 1996 the area of the modern East Riding of Yorkshire constituted the northern part of the non-metropolitan county of Humberside<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humberside>. At the 2011 Census the Unitary Authority population was 334,179.[2]<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Riding_of_Yorkshire#cite_note-2>” I don’t think the same coincidence of name goes for the old West Riding , which is a shame. Wikipedia has good articles on the history, etc. Of Yorkshire. As for me, as I said in an earlier post; if the ancestor was born in the West Riding , that’s how I’ll record it! Peter in France (where they are reorganising the local government regions AGAIN!) Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Janet Peacock via<mailto:yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: 02 April 2016 17:09 To: Peter J. Richardson<mailto:pjrich.ntl@googlemail.com>; yorksgen@rootsweb.com<mailto:yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Sculcoates Sorry, Peter, but I can't let that one go, either ----- I live in the East Riding & pay my council tax to the East Riding of Yorkshire Council. And there is nothing 'sentimental' about that! So Local Government still acknowledges the use of the Ridings, even in the 21st century. My comment about the Post Office, Victor, reflects the fact that many postcodes in the East Riding of Yorkshire begin 'YO'. This, according to the Post Office puts them in North Yorkshire & I have had 'discussions' with Post Office staff who insist that Pocklington, Driffield, Market Weighton etc are in North Yorkshire not East Yorkshire. Many gazetteers stick to the same misconception & it is often impossible to change them manually. I suppose Kingston-on-Thames pre-dates Kingston-upon-Hull, being known originally as just 'Kingston'; whereas Kingston-upon-Hull was known as 'Wyke-on-Hull' until receiving its Royal Charter in the 13th century. What irritates my partner is when the media refer to the football team as 'Hull', instead of 'Hull City' ----- he's a fan of Hull FC, the rugby club! And we were both born in that fair city (with both birthdays coming up in April) Whatever cities or counties are called by the politicians & administrators, traditions & personal loyalties will remain & that, Peter, is not merely sentiment, but heredity & culture. Janet -----Original Message----- From: Peter J. Richardson via Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:06 PM To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Sculcoates Hello Janet On 31 March 2016 at 11:05, Janet Peacock <JanMPeacock@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > What do you mean, Peter, by 'after the Ridings disappeared'? If you look at any county map published after 1974 the word "Riding" does not appear. Whilst we might for sentimental reasons wish to retain the labels that existed when we were young there will come a time when there is nobody left in Yorkshire who was born before 1974, and unless the Ridings make a reappearance between now and then the label will pass into history. > They have not disappeared. > > As you point out, 'South Yorkshire' is classed as a metropolitan county &, > to many > people this causes frustration ---- not only from a genealogical point of > view, but in > modern day activities, too. As, of course, does the use of the much hated > 'Humberside' > which only exists for Police etc., though the Post Office still clings to > it > 20 years after > its abolition! As local government structures become more complicated and haphazard I am starting to wonder whether the whole concept of counties as we used to know them will pass into history. 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