Hi Michael A gedcom being a small file there should be no problem in either moving or copying it to any other form of device / CD / DVD or memory stick Right click on it and select copy or cut and go to the device and paste Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) Help Please Can anyone enlighten me as to the possibility of downloading a Gedcom File to a CD or Memory stick. Mike in York

Help Please   Can anyone enlighten me as to the possibility of downloading a Gedcom File to a CD or Memory stick.   Mike in York

So said the pot, to the kettle. On May 29, 2012, at 1:03 PM, roy.stockdill@btinternet.com wrote: > I get a little tired of these occasional personal attacks on me.

____________________________________ From: Tsbrett@aol.com To: YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: 5/12/2012 12:07:26 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time Subj: Fwd: From Denver Colorado I am forwarding this email re Bretts of Middlesbrough. Please email me _tsbrett@aol.com_ (mailto:tsbrett@aol.com) Of the eight children of Michael and Catherine Corcoran Brett. Mary Ann Wray wife of Patrick Brett came to Chicago with her two sons Thomas and James. Elizabeth "Lizzie" Bret married Manus Conway and they came Chicago with children Parrick Joseph and Thomas Patrick and later had 4 more children in US. Catherine Brett ma John McGuone had three chilren and died in 1916 and John married her sister Hannah Brett. William and Daniel Brett I believe stayed and died in Middlesbrough unmarried. Mary Brett m David Cavanagh they had 7 children between 1892 and 1910. They may have come to US. Margaret m Thomas Finn. Thank you Tomme Brett Kadotani ____________________________________ From: Tsbrett@aol.com To: moderatorofthecuria@dioceseofmiddlesbrough.co.uk Sent: 5/12/2012 11:46:43 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time Subj: From Denver Colorado To whom it may concern, My name is Tommie Brett Kadotani and I am the grandaughter of Patrick Brett b 1 Dec 1870 Middlesbrough and Mary Ann Wray b 9 Jun 1877 West Hartlepool. Their son Patrick Brett b 4 Jan 1902 Middlesbrough is. my father. On an earlier trip to Middlesbrough I visited the Archives in Middlesbrough where they had parish records from St. Mary's Parish and St. Peters Parish. I obtained a lot of information on this trip but did not realize extent of the material and the relationship to my research. I anticipate being in Yorkshire next January probably the 6th and 7th of January. I would like to revisit the repository of this material but do not have the information necessary to contact them. I can find no record of my grandfather death. . His last child James Brett was born 28 Sep 1905. Mary Ann Wray Brett arrived in the US at NY on the "Caronis" out of Liverpool on the 31 of July 1910. She is a Widow and is bound for Chicago, Illinois. I can find no record of the death of my grandfather. Patrick Brett b 22 Sep 1871 is the st cousin of my Patrick Brett and the former I believe died in Middlesbrough Dec of 1934. I mention this due to the closeness of birthdates. Do you have a record of the death of a Patrick Brett between 1905 and 1910. Thank you for your kind attention to this matter. If necessary you may forward this email to whomever might be able to provide an answer to my query. Tommie Brett Kadotani Denver, Colorado

It is now part of Sheffield in South Yorkshire See http://www.sheffieldpub.co.uk/pubs/hackenthorpe/ The pub you are looking for is not listed but it could have changed it's name. There is a forum where you can ask at http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=16452 Victor On 29/05/2012 4:44 AM, Coral Thacker wrote: > I wonder if anyone on the list knows if 'The Boot and Shoe Inn' Hackenthorpe Derbyshire still exists. It was there in 1871 and 1881. I think it may now be part of Yorkshire. Any pointers would be gratefully received > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I wonder if anyone on the list knows if 'The Boot and Shoe Inn' Hackenthorpe Derbyshire still exists. It was there in 1871 and 1881. I think it may now be part of Yorkshire. Any pointers would be gratefully received

From: roy.stockdill@btinternet.com I wrote...... > Asking others to send you images from any census is a form of theft, a bit like begging a > cup of tea at railway stations. If you are that desperate, then you should either take out a > subscription or find another hobby.< Yes, I wrote that and I happen to believe it 100 per cent! Asking others who have paid out of their own pockets to buy subscriptions to Ancestry, Findmypast and other data providers is, in my opinion, like begging for cups of tea or asking strangers for small change at railway stations. Surely we do not do that in this great hobby of ours? We pay our way and those who want to cllimb on our backs, muscle in and get something for nothing by using our subscriptions are cheap and despicable. Would you ask a friend to lend you his expensive camera to take pictures on your holiday? Discsus for homework! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

From: Jane Hansen <melmrby@yahoo.com> > I wonder if some kind person with access to FindMyPast could send me > the image from the 1911 census with the district, subdistrict, > household ID number for James Shaw WALKER, age 75 born in > Almondbury, Yorks. Tailor and outfitter. > > I believe he was in the Ormskirk district with his wife Jane WALKER, > age 67, born 1844 Preston, and a son Herbert Shaw WALKER born 1867 > in Preston. There may be others at the same address. This is a > family that I cannot find on Ancestry yet they are clearly there on > Find My Past. > > In 1901 the family were at 129 Hampton Rd, Southport, Lancs and > included two younger children Edith E (b 1872) and Harold (b 1880) > > Many thanks, > Jane> I must point out that passing on images and information from any census is a breach of the licence everyone takes out with the data provider when they sign up. Check the small print on their websites if you don't believe me. You are allowed to use the data for your own personal use only and not send it to third parties. People seem to disregard this and think this is not important, but it is! You ignore it at your peril. Companies like Ancestry and Findmypast have paid out millions of pounds to purchase exclusive rights to bring the information to us and have a right to protect their investment. I happen to know that FMP in particular have removed people from their books for breaching the agreement. Asking others to send you images from any census is a form of theft, a bit like begging a cup of tea at railway stations. If you are that desperate, then you should either take out a subscription or find another hobby. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hi Jane Just put in Herbert Shaw as forenames leaving out the surname and he is there on Ancestry as WACKER. Simples :) Ref is RG14/22891 Lin A true friend walks in when the world walks out > Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 13:33:35 -0700 > From: melmrby@yahoo.com > To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [YORKSGEN] 1911 census lookup for James Shaw WALKER on FindmyPast > > I wonder if some kind person with access to FindMyPast could send me the image from the 1911 census with the district, subdistrict, household ID number for James Shaw WALKER, age 75 born in Almondbury, Yorks. Tailor and outfitter. > > I believe he was in the Ormskirk district with his wife Jane WALKER, age 67, born 1844 Preston, and a son Herbert Shaw WALKER born 1867 in Preston. There may be others at the same address. This is a family that I cannot find on Ancestry yet they are clearly there on Find My Past. > > In 1901 the family were at 129 Hampton Rd, Southport, Lancs and included two younger children Edith E (b 1872) and Harold (b 1880) > > Many thanks, > Jane > > > > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to those helpful people who found James Shaw WALKER on Ancestry as James Shaw WACKER. In reply to Roy, I should perhaps have asked for the reference information only from FindMyPast that would have allowed me to find the image on Ancestry, for which I do have a fully paid up subscription. Some of us find paying for two subscriptions a little pricey but I will bear in mind your comment about finding another hobby - I guess genealogical research is just for the wealthy in your books. And I won't even go into the volunteer hours I spent indexing pieces of census records in the past, long before Ancestry or Find My Past had them, so that other people could look up their ancestors. By networking via this list and having people with a subscription to one service help others who have a subscription to another service and thereby correcting information that is in error seems a service to genealogy in general. Cheap and despicable, Jane

Hi all More contributions on the topic but unfortunately nothing re the origin of the name. Denis has quoted information from John Sykes, grandson of his names sake who bought the Farnley Tyas estate from the Earl of Dartmouth in 1968. Click on the link to read the article. http://www.examiner.co.uk/views-and-blogs/columnists/denis-kilcommons/2012/05/28/denis-more-on-mollicar-woods-history-86081-31057564/   Regards Roger Family History Research: GILL, BERRY, CHARLESWORTH, ROBINSON and many others in the Holme Valley, south of Huddersfield. http://www.roger.d.gill.btinternet.co.uk/index1gen.htm http://rogergill.me.uk

Jane >From your email, it sounds like you have an Ancestry subscription.  If you do have an Ancestry subscription, you will find on Ancestry this James under James Shaw WACKER (not WALKER).  Obviously a mistranscription.  It looks like the person transcribing saw the "L" as a "C".  If you don't have a subscription, let me know, as Ancestry does email the image to a friend. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: Jane Hansen <melmrby@yahoo.com> To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Cc: Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 4:33:35 PM Subject: [YORKSGEN] 1911 census lookup for James Shaw WALKER on FindmyPast I wonder if some kind person with access to FindMyPast could send me the image from the 1911 census with the district, subdistrict, household ID number for James Shaw WALKER, age 75 born in Almondbury, Yorks. Tailor and outfitter. I believe he was in the Ormskirk district with his wife Jane WALKER, age 67, born 1844 Preston, and a son Herbert Shaw WALKER born 1867 in Preston. There may be others at the same address. This is a family that I cannot find on Ancestry yet they are clearly there on Find My Past. In 1901 the family were at 129 Hampton Rd, Southport, Lancs and included two younger children Edith E (b 1872) and Harold (b 1880) Many thanks, Jane ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I wonder if some kind person with access to FindMyPast could send me the image from the 1911 census with the district, subdistrict, household ID number for James Shaw WALKER, age 75 born in Almondbury, Yorks. Tailor and outfitter. I believe he was in the Ormskirk district with his wife Jane WALKER, age 67, born 1844 Preston, and a son Herbert Shaw WALKER born 1867 in Preston. There may be others at the same address. This is a family that I cannot find on Ancestry yet they are clearly there on Find My Past. In 1901 the family were at 129 Hampton Rd, Southport, Lancs and included two younger children Edith E (b 1872) and Harold (b 1880) Many thanks, Jane

Hi Mollie Just ignore those sort of disclaimers, more often than not the poster has no control over their automatic inclusion Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) in reply to tony's email. what's all that about the email being confidential etc? Not so. If you post to an open forum you can't enforce confidentiallity.

in reply to tony's email.  what's all that about the email being confidential etc?  Not so.  If you post to an open forum you can't enforce confidentiallity.  ________________________________ From: Anthony D Pink <adpink@ntlworld.com> To: YORKSGEN <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, 27 May 2012, 16:54 Subject: [YORKSGEN] Warning - potential scam! Hi all Just landed in my inbox, followed swiftly by the junk folder whilst still opened, some sort of begging letter about Cancer and offers of a free genealogy test (whatever one of those might be?). It smells decidedly fishy, and has the "forwarded" lines down the left side, so I would, with respect, suggest you follow my lead! Best wishes to all, Tony Upper Poppleton York This e-mail is confidential It may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the sender immediately by return E-mail. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely secure, error or virus-free.    The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions. ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all Just landed in my inbox, followed swiftly by the junk folder whilst still opened, some sort of begging letter about Cancer and offers of a free genealogy test (whatever one of those might be?). It smells decidedly fishy, and has the "forwarded" lines down the left side, so I would, with respect, suggest you follow my lead! Best wishes to all, Tony Upper Poppleton York This e-mail is confidential It may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the sender immediately by return E-mail. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely secure, error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions.

Hi All, I have been reading these messages and wondering where the problem lay having never come across it. I have just searched for 3 of the examples given and not met any problem. I might just be that I have selected different trees for that name than the people with the problem but I tried about 3 trees for each name. So I wonder if it is the type of subscription that is causing the problem. I have worldwide from the UK. Perhaps those with the problem would like to say what they have. Christine -----Original Message----- From: Martin Briscoe Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 3:54 PM To: YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Using numbers for locations I asked about this on a ROOTSWEB Ancestry board and got a reply from someone who has been complaining to Ancestry for years (without success of course!). I tried to find the records he sent by searching Ancestry Public Member Trees but can't find them so just retyped them here Name John Savage Birth 1844 in 1652233, Denbighshire, [county], Wales Name Gertrude Jones Birth 1894 in 1651600, Flintshire, , Wales Death 1953 in 1651600, Flintshire, , Wales Name Joseph Jones Birth 1868 in 1652233, Denbighshire, [county], Wales The appearance of the same numbers suggest it might be an internal code for a location. Martin Briscoe Fort William martin@mbriscoe.me.uk -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Martin Briscoe Sent: 23 May 2012 11:24 To: YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Using numbers for locations It could be that they are locations taken down from the Ancestry family trees. A few years ago the Ancestry messed up a lot of locations. If England was not specified it would often try to find an American location that was similar. I also have seen a lot showing one particular CWGC cemetery in France. But you often see ones there with a six(?) figure number, no idea what they are supposed to mean but they seem to have been inserted by Ancestry's family tree system. Martin Briscoe Fort William martin@mbriscoe.me.uk -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pam Sent: 23 May 2012 10:47 To: YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] Using numbers for locations I have come across various listings for people giving numbers instead of a name for the location. Presumably this is some sort of code and I think I have heard of it before, but would like to know where I can find a key or directory, so I can work out where these places are. Thanks in anticipation. Pam ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I asked about this on a ROOTSWEB Ancestry board and got a reply from someone who has been complaining to Ancestry for years (without success of course!). I tried to find the records he sent by searching Ancestry Public Member Trees but can't find them so just retyped them here Name John Savage Birth 1844 in 1652233, Denbighshire, [county], Wales Name Gertrude Jones Birth 1894 in 1651600, Flintshire, , Wales Death 1953 in 1651600, Flintshire, , Wales Name Joseph Jones Birth 1868 in 1652233, Denbighshire, [county], Wales The appearance of the same numbers suggest it might be an internal code for a location. Martin Briscoe Fort William martin@mbriscoe.me.uk -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Martin Briscoe Sent: 23 May 2012 11:24 To: YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Using numbers for locations It could be that they are locations taken down from the Ancestry family trees. A few years ago the Ancestry messed up a lot of locations. If England was not specified it would often try to find an American location that was similar. I also have seen a lot showing one particular CWGC cemetery in France. But you often see ones there with a six(?) figure number, no idea what they are supposed to mean but they seem to have been inserted by Ancestry's family tree system. Martin Briscoe Fort William martin@mbriscoe.me.uk -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pam Sent: 23 May 2012 10:47 To: YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] Using numbers for locations I have come across various listings for people giving numbers instead of a name for the location. Presumably this is some sort of code and I think I have heard of it before, but would like to know where I can find a key or directory, so I can work out where these places are. Thanks in anticipation. Pam ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all After a short ceremony to "open" the Jubilee Memorial seat in our village this morning I took the opportunity of discussing Molly Carr woods with Dr George Redmonds. He who has published several books on the origin of people/place names. He has followed the Examiner newspaper discussions so is aware of the interest. In all his studies of documents, including ancient court rolls etc, related to places in Farnley Tyas and Almondbury he has not found any reference that would help to establish the origin of the name. He is also sceptical of the association with birds names and reminds us that the word "carr" is a reference to swamp rather than a wood. So, sorry Margaret, but we do not seem to be any nearer establishing the origin of the name. And, just seen in todays Examiner, should anyone fancy an early morning outing tomorrow, Sunday 27th May, Almondbury Methodist Church people are starting the "Sing" at 7.30 am. The sing takes a walk through the woods stopping to sing hymns at various points en route. Roger Family History Research: GILL, BERRY, CHARLESWORTH, ROBINSON and many others in the Holme Valley, south of Huddersfield. http://www.roger.d.gill.btinternet.co.uk/index1gen.htm http://rogergill.me.uk

Peter Thank you for your comments, I have added some details against your questions.  > Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 09:21:22 +1000 > From: "Peter  R Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> > Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] BARRETT/BARRITT, Sarah Jane of Halifax > Roger, > >   I'd try to find William's occupation in 1861.         Cab Driver/coachman > >     If Sarah b1863 was the youngest of 7, there would be others born by > 1861. See if father's occupation was related to a mechanic. William was always a coachman in the baptism records. > >     I'm wondering if he wasn't Thomas William or William Thomas.  He was always quoted as William R or William Robinson. > >     West Yorkshire baptisms should show name of father and possibly mother. > Look for all the other children and check names and occupation. > >     I'd also try for the parents'  marriage to see what names he might > have > used and his occupation. For William R it is all consistent with the above. > >     Peter However I have also received a message from Margaret in California (I think) who has noted that there are mentions of a Thomas Barrett in the Halifax census records so I am now following up that lead. It seems Thomas may be the correct father after all.   Regards Roger Family History Research: GILL, BERRY, CHARLESWORTH, ROBINSON and many others in the Holme Valley, south of Huddersfield. http://www.roger.d.gill.btinternet.co.uk/index1gen.htm http://rogergill.me.uk