Marg, Having looked at the 1861 census, it looks to me that John is 50 not 30. [John Stead death reg Wakefield Mar Q 1869 aged 58] John is on 1841 census, Wakefield aged 30, bookkeeper with Jane aged 30 and Joe Waterworth (8) and Thos Waterworth (5). Could these be children from Jane's previous marriage? Jane Waterworth married John Stead 21 Mar 1835 All Saints Wakefield by Licence Lin In 1861 I find John, 30. a bookkeeper, and Harriet living at Bond Street, Wakefield with their son John, 2. quest@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire?http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org;www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com;www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toYORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Marg, Ignore my message - I think Lin is right. :-) Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Boyes" <markandjanboyes@ntlworld.com> To: "Margaret Cambridge" <talktomarg@shaw.ca>; <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 9:51 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam]Re: [YORKSGEN] Help finding John Walter STEAD > Hi Marg, > Well, this is a possiblity, with John living with his brother. (John > without his middle name of Walter) >

Hi Marg, Well, this is a possiblity, with John living with his brother. (John without his middle name of Walter) 1881 census STEAD, Thomas S Head Married M 28 1853 Carpenter Etc (Unemployed) Wakefield, Yorkshire STEAD, Sarah A C Wife Married F 33 1848 Halifax, Yorkshire STEAD, John Brother Single M 26 1855 Slater Wakefield, Yorkshire Piece: 1703 Folio: 123 Page: 77 Registration District: West Ham Civil Parish: West Ham Municipal Borough: Address: 9, Ward Rd, West Ham County: Essex ------------------------------ You already have the 1861 census with John Walter aged 2 living at Wakefield - and no brother called Thomas S Stead living with him. BUT There is a Thomas Stephen STEAD living with his grandparents in the 1861 census at Wakefield. 1861 census STEAD, Thomas Head Married M 59 1802 Baker And Shop Keeper Wetherby, Yorkshire VIEW STEAD, Sarah Wife Married F 57 1804 Hengrave, Yorkshire VIEW STEAD, Thomas Stephen Grandson M 8 1853 Scholar Wakefield, Yorkshire VIEW Piece: 3423 Folio: 4 Page: 1 Registration District: Wakefield Civil Parish: Wakefield Municipal Borough: Wakefield Address: Northgate, Wakefield County: Yorkshire (West riding) I haven't looked at any births or marriages yet, but do you think this is the right family? Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Cambridge" <talktomarg@shaw.ca> To: <yorksgen-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 9:05 PM Subject: [YORKSGEN] Help finding John Walter STEAD If someone has time on their hands..-)) this lovely summer day and doesn't mind a challenge I would appreciate help in finding my John Walter STEAD, born abt 1859, Wakefield, the son of John STEAD and Harriet Lake STEAD (maiden name also STEAD. John STEAD senior was previously married but I am unable to find his first marriage. He was a widower when he married Harriet on 28 Sept 1858 St John, Wakefield. In 1861 I find John, 30. a bookkeeper, and Harriet living at Bond Street, Wakefield with their son John, 2. This John senior died in 1869 and Harriet married Joseph MARSLAND, a widower, on 5 July 1870, Wakefield. I have search and searched and racked by brain with no success in finding his birth or marriage or his whereabouts in 1881 and after 1891. . Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada .....

HI Marg Unless I've misread your mail, John Walter STEAD's birth is reg Wakefield Mar Q 1859,, In 1881 he is at 27 Ebbaston Terrace, Headingley cum Burley, under the name of SHAW, unmarried, 22, solicitor's clerk, born Wakefield In 1901 he is still in Headingley, the name is John Walter Stead, but is transcribed as WATHSTLAND 1911 he is still in Headingley indexed as John Waller SLAITE, aged 52, solicitor It doesn't look as though he ever married. Lin On 23/06/2012 21:05, Margaret Cambridge wrote: > If someone has time on their hands..-)) this lovely summer day and doesn't mind a challenge I would appreciate help in finding my John Walter STEAD, born abt 1859, Wakefield, the son of John STEAD and Harriet Lake STEAD (maiden name also STEAD. > > John STEAD senior was previously married but I am unable to find his first marriage. He was a widower when he married Harriet on 28 Sept 1858 St John, Wakefield. > > In 1861 I find John, 30. a bookkeeper, and Harriet living at Bond Street, Wakefield with their son John, 2. > > This John senior died in 1869 and Harriet married Joseph MARSLAND, a widower, on 5 July 1870, Wakefield. > > In 1871 Joseph and Harriet MARSLAND are living at Burton Street, Wakefield with young John Walter STEAD, stepson aged 12. > I have not been able to find John Walter STEAD in 1881. > In 1891 he is living at 27 Ebbaston St., Headingley, Leeds and is a 32 year old solicitor. He is recorded as married but his wife is not in the home and I haven't been able to find a marriage. > > Then he disappears until 1917 when I find "At a Court of the Feltmakers Company Summoned and held at the Guildhall in the City of London on Monday the 2nd day of July 1917, Colonel John Walter Stead, of Cookridge Street, Leeds, son of John and Harriet Stead, formerly Stead, was admiited to the Freedom of the Company by redemption." > > I have search and searched and racked by brain with no success in finding his birth or marriage or his whereabouts in 1881 and after 1891. > > John Walter STEAD died 10 Jan 1947 at Coronation Hospital, Ilkley, Yorkshire leaving effects of £87,960 naming a business partner as executor. > > Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Marg > >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Google hearth tax online gives this link: http://www.hearthtax.org.uk/search/   I can't promise you'll find your people but I imagine it's worth a look.   Maureen ________________________________ From: Audrey Bowne <acbowne1@yahoo.com> To: "yorksgen@rootsweb.com" <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, 24 June 2012 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] surname BOWN OR BOWNE I would like info on these families This is the BOWNE family I am trying to find more info on Would any of these be on the hearth tax. ? I have posted on the  England rootsweb Yorkshire rootsweb Gloucester rootsweb Where else should I post info ? Lots of missing info

Hello all, The 17th annual Yorkshire Family History Fair is on next Saturday, the 30th June at the Racecourse, York. We are really excited about this, as it promises to be the very biggest and best ever. Certainly it will be the biggest family history event in the North of England, with exhibitors from all over the UK, including family history societies, antiquarian and modern booksellers, CDs, vintage postcards, photo restorers, researchers, family tree printers, archive storage specialists and much more. There is something here for everyone, spread out over 3 floors of the Knavesmire Stand. There is free parking, wheelchair access, lifts to all floors and refreshments served all day in the cafeteria. The No.11 bus from York Railway Station stops within a few minutes walk Full details are on the website http://www.yorkshirefamilyhistoryfair.com If you are there, please stop at the Yorkshire Ancsestors stand and say hello. I will be there with Brenda Green (www.yorkshireancestors.com). Also, watch out for Jackie Depelle, the lady with the famous hat. Regards, Janice Wood

This is the BOWNE family I am trying to find more info on Would any of these be on the hearth tax. ? I have posted on the  England rootsweb Yorkshire rootsweb Gloucester rootsweb Where else should I post info ? Lots of missing info Who are Thomas BOWNEs mother and father and sibblings. When was he born and where some places the name was spelt BOWN. 1388 or so it was spelt deBouhn (Norman French ?) on EACH name I would like to find name inc middle or nick name birth date and where marriage date and where death date and where name of cemetery and where buried name of spouse name of children name of mother and father name of sibblings thanks Audrey   Descendants of Thomas Bowne I would like info on these families thanks Audrey Bowne Seattle WA USA acbowne1@yahoo.com1 Thomas Bowne d: 31 Oct 1613 .... +Alice [Bowne] .. 2 Jone Bowne .. 2 Hughe Bowne .. 2 Margery Bowne .. 2 Ann Bowne .. 2 Thomas Bowne .. 2 Alice Bowne .. 2 Johan Bowne .. 2 Nicholas Bowne b: 1589 in Worcester, GBR ........ +Mary Hentymore m: May 1615 in Worcester, GBR ....... 3 Thomas Bowne ....... 3 William Bowne ....... 3 Elinor Bowne ....... 3 Nicolas Bowne d: Bef. 1620 ....... 3 Henry Bowne ....... 3 Valentine Bowne b: 10 Apr 1623 in Kempsford, Gloucester, GBR ....... 3 Mary Bowne b: 17 Mar 1627/28 in Worcester, GBR ....... 3 Amye Bowne b: 03 Jul 1631 in Kempsford, Gloucester, GBR ....... 3 Robert Bowne b: 14 Jul 1633 in Kempsford, Gloucester, GBR d: Bef. 1708 ............. +Sarah [Bowne] ............ 4 Robert Bowne d: Bef. 1708 .................. +Ursula George m: 14 Jul 1692 in Gloucester, GBR ................. 5 Edward Bowne ....................... +Miriam [Bowne] ...................... 6 Thomas Bowne b: in GBR d: in Gloucester, GBR ............................ +Mary Westmacott b: in GBR m: 02 Oct 1759 in Ampney Crucis, Gloucester, GBR d: 1812 in Gloucester, GBR ........................... 7 Ann Bowne/Bown ................................. +John Geren m: 13 Feb 1816 in Monmouth, NJ ........................... 7 John Bowne/Bown ........................... 7 Mary Bowne/Bown ................................. +* Hirons ........................... 7 Susannah Bowne/Bown ................................. +William Collett m: 07 Aug 1792 in Northleach, Gloucester, GBR ................................ 8 William Collett ........................... 7 Richard Bowne/Bown d: 1845 in Gloucester, GBR ................................. +Mary Westuckett ................................ 8 Susanna Bown ................................ 8 Robert Bown ................................ 8 Elizabeth Bown ................................ 8 Mary Bown ................................ 8 Anne Bown ................................ 8 Eliza Bown b: 1818 ........................... 7 James Bowne/Bown ........................... 7 Edward Bowne b: 1760 in GBR d: 1839 in Down Ampney, Gloucester, GBR ................................. +Sarah Part b: 1763 d: 1817 in Down Ampney, Gloucester, GBR ................................ 8 Sarah Bowne ................................ 8 Elizabeth Bowne ................................ 8 Mary Bowne ................................ 8 Alice Bowne ................................ 8 William Part Bowne d: 14 Feb 1885 ................................ 8 Frances Bowne b: 08 Dec 1801 in Down Ampney, Gloucester, GBR ........................... *2nd Wife of Edward Bowne: ................................. +Elizabeth Cuss b: 1764 d: 1832 in Down Ampney, Gloucester, GBR ................................ 8 Sarah Ann Bowne/Bowns ...................................... +David Evans m: 19 Oct 1820 in Hamilton, OH ................................ *2nd Husband of Sarah Ann Bowne/Bowns: ...................................... +Francis Swan m: 29 Dec 1830 in Mariners Ch., NYC, NY ................................ 8 Elizabeth Bowne/Bown ................................ 8 Mary Bowne/Bown ................................ 8 Alice Bowne/Bown ................................ 8 Frances Bowne/Bown ........................... 7 Thomas Bowne/Bown b: 26 May 1762 in Ampney Crucis, Gloucester, GBR ........................... 7 Robert Bowne/Bown b: 1771 d: 1837 in Longborough, Gloucester, GBR ................................. +Sarah Tidwell b: 1784 m: 20 Sep 1808 in Longborough, Gloucester, GBR d: 1819 in Longborough, Gloucester, GBR ................................ 8 Mary Bown ................................ 8 Thomas Bown ................................ 8 Elizabeth Bown ................................ 8 Ann Bown ................................ 8 Sarah Bown b: 1817 in Longborough, Gloucester, GBR ........................... 7 William Bowne/Bown b: 1776 d: 08 Mar 1840 in Birmingham, GBR ................................. +Sarah Clifford m: 13 Aug 1804 in Southrop, Gloucester, GBR d: 07 May 1867 in Birmingham, GBR ................................ 8 Thomas Bown ...................................... +Anne Webb b: 1815 ..................................... 9 Edward Webb Bown ..................................... 9 Selina Webb Bown d: 1902 ........................................... +Herbert Shuker d: 1876 ..................................... 9 Reuben Webb Bown b: 1834 d: 1906 ........................................... +Mari Sharman b: 1845 ................................ 8 Maria Bown ...................................... +William Mace b: 1803 d: 14 Feb 1859 ..................................... 9 Lawrence Mace ..................................... 9 James Mace ..................................... 9 Elena Mace ..................................... 9 George Mace ................................ 8 William Bown ................................ 8 Sarah Bown ................................ 8 Frederick Bown b: 1806 in Gloucester, GBR d: 1873 in Birmingham, GBR ...................................... +Sarah Hollins ..................................... 9 William Frederick Bown ..................................... 9 George Hollins Bown d: 1842 ..................................... 9 Benjamin Bown d: 1845 ..................................... 9 Catherine Hollins Bown b: 1833 ..................................... 9 Sarah Ann Bown b: 1834 ..................................... 9 Elizabeth1 Bown b: 27 Mar 1838 d: 1839 ..................................... 9 Elizabeth2 Bown b: 25 Sep 1839 ..................................... 9 George Bown b: 1845 ..................................... 9 Thomas Bown b: 06 Nov 1846 ................................ 8 Elizabeth Bown b: 1807 d: 1898 in Aston, Birmingham, GBR ...................................... +Austin Butler b: 04 Aug 1805 d: 1869 ................................ *2nd Husband of Elizabeth Bown: ...................................... +Francis Mace b: 1806 d: 1869 ................................ 8 Jane Mary Bown b: 1815 in Gloucester, GBR ................................ 8 James Bown b: 1817 in Gloucester, GBR ................................ 8 Malina Bown b: 1819 in Gloucester, GBR d: 07 Dec 1876 in Warwick, GBR ...................................... +Charles Dollman b: 01 May 1815 d: 08 Nov 1859 ................................ 8 George Bown b: 1820 in Gloucester, GBR d: Aft. 1901 ...................................... +Mary Ann Howes b: 1826 d: 28 Apr 1915 ..................................... 9 William Clifford Bown b: 07 Sep 1852 ..................................... 9 George Frederick Bown b: 20 Sep 1854 ..................................... 9 Frank Charles Bown b: 1862 ........................................... +Ellen Euphemia Benbow d: 1900 .......................................... 10 Florence M. Bown b: 17 Jul 1882 .......................................... 10 Frances Jesse Bown b: 05 Feb 1884 d: 21 Aug 1884 .......................................... 10 Helen Gertrude Bown b: 1885 .......................................... 10 Edith Bown b: 1888 .......................................... 10 Frank Joseph Benbow Bown b: 28 Oct 1895 ................................................ +Ida Agatha Lamb ..................................... *2nd Wife of Frank Charles Bown: ........................................... +Annie Woodnoth .......................................... 10 Alfred Harry Bown b: 09 Aug 1904 d: 1974 .......................................... 10 Annie Bown b: 03 Aug 1905 d: 23 Nov 1972 ................................................ +W. J. Allen b: 03 Sep 1911 d: 27 Jul 1996 ..................................... 9 Malina Anne Bown b: 1864 ..................................... 9 Kate Emily Bown b: 1867 ..................................... 9 Stanley Bown b: 1870 ................................ 8 Sophia Bown b: 1825 in Gloucester, GBR d: 1889 in Birmingham, GBR ...................................... +Thomas Gilbert Gossage b: 1817 d: 1858 ................................ 8 Caroline Bown b: 1826 ................................ 8 Helen Bown b: 1828 in Gloucester, GBR ...................................... +Samuel Taylor b: 1814 ..................................... 9 Harry Bown Taylor b: 1853 ...................... 6 Miriam Bowne ...................... 6 Edward Bowne ............................ +Betty Sindery m: 10 Jan 1756 in Ampney Crucis, Gloucester, GBR ........................... 7 Miriam Bowne ...................... 6 Mary Bowne ............................ +Richard Iles b: in GBR ...................... 6 Susanna Bowne ...................... 6 Sarah Bowne ...................... 6 Robert Bowne ............................ +Mary Elborough ...................... 6 James Bowne b: 1730 in GBR d: 01 Apr 1800 ............................ +Jane Elborough b: 1730 in GBR m: 10 Jun 1756 in Ampney Crucis, Gloucester, GBR d: 10 Dec 1821 ........................... 7 Mary Bowne ........................... 7 Miriam Bowne ........................... 7 Elisabeth Bowne ........................... 7 William Bowne ................................. +Mary Elborough b: 1780 ................................ 8 Rachel Bowne ................................ 8 George Bowne ................................ 8 Job Bowne ................................ 8 William Bowne ................................ 8 Edwin Bowne ................................ 8 Sarah Bowne ................................ 8 Mary Bowne ........................... 7 Rachel Bowne ........................... 7 Sarah Bowne ........................... 7 Patience Bowne ................................. +Thomas Lane ........................... 7 Ann Bowne b: 02 Apr 1756 ........................... 7 Jacob Bowne b: 1764 in Ampney St Peter, Cloucester, GBR ................................. +Mary Ann Tytherleigh b: 1767 ................................ 8 Theodosia Bowne ................................ 8 Robert Bowne ................................ 8 Jacob Bowne ................................ 8 Daniel Bowne ................................ 8 Joseph Bowne ................................ 8 Benjamin Bowne ................................ 8 David Bowne ................................ 8 Mary Ann Bowne b: 28 Sep 1794 ...................................... +James Hughes b: 02 Feb 1795 d: 21 Jan 1862 ..................................... 9 [2] Ann Mary Hughes b: 03 Sep 1823 d: 01 Nov 1866 ........................................... +[1] William Tytherleigh Bown b: 10 Jan 1822 d: 01 Jan 1920 .......................................... 10 [3] Caroline Marie Bown b: 12 Sep 1856 d: 04 Jan 1933 ................................ 8 William Tytherleigh Bowne b: 03 Apr 1796 ...................................... +Elizabeth Weston ..................................... 9 [1] William Tytherleigh Bown b: 10 Jan 1822 d: 01 Jan 1920 ........................................... +[2] Ann Mary Hughes b: 03 Sep 1823 d: 01 Nov 1866 .......................................... 10 [3] Caroline Marie Bown b: 12 Sep 1856 d: 04 Jan 1933 ........................... 7 James Bowne b: 13 Feb 1805 in Portisham, Dorset, GBR ................. 5 Elizabeth Bowne ................. 5 Mary Bowne ................. 5 John Bowne ............ 4 John Bowne ............ 4 Elizabeth Bowne ....... *2nd Wife of Robert Bowne: ............. +Sarah [Bowne] *2nd Wife of Thomas Bowne: .... +Alice [Bowne] .. 2 Henry Bowne b: 10 Apr 1623 in Kempsford, Gloucester, GBR

Another unusual one: I have also seen a marriage record where the name of the groom's mother was given as the name of the grooms father - and she was also listed as spinster when she was, in fact a widow. Interestingly, it was the second marriage for the groom in four years (his first wife having died within a year of the marriage) and the first marriage correctly gave the father's name but did not note that he was deceased (6 years earlier). I guess it all boils down to what info the parties decide to provide at the time ;o) Neil -- Neil Houghton Albany Western Australia on 22/6/12 12:50 AM, yorksgen-request@rootsweb.com at yorksgen-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:14:32 +0100 > From: Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> > Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] BRIGGS Thomas > To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4FE30218.7060702@sky.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi Ann > > You have a fairly unusual document there then, despite seeing rather a > lot of marriage certificates, I have yet to see a marriage which lists > both parents so you have something rather unique there > > I wonder why they recorded both ? > > Has anyone else seen one I wonder? > > For the record I have not seen any reply to you that could be taken as > anything other than helpful, perhaps you just misread the tone which can > be difficult to convey sometimes in email > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > On 21/06/2012 09:47, SBS Engineers Research wrote: >> Nivard and list >> >> Regarding my email where I stated Thomas Briggs marriage certificate >> listed only his father's name (Thomas Briggs - gardener) but both >> parents of his wife Maria Richards. Her parents Thomas and Maria "are" >> both listed on the marriage certificate (I have it here with me). I have >> followed her parents backward s to their marriage in Devon and forwards >> through the birth of all their children, 2 born in Devon and the rest >> born in Kent. >> >> I didn't realize my first email came across looking so mixed up; this >> was the result of being busy and trying to send off an email in a hurry. >> >> >> Have a nice day. >> Ann >> Perth WA > > > ------------------------------

hello all, we are having another TANSHELF REUNION and looking for more memories and photographs. After last year's very successful reunion, where over 200 folk got together to watch the video that Jacky had done with photos that everyone had lent her. She was able to use the money donated for copies of this DVD to get a 2012 Calendar & 2012 Diary published. They are selling like hot cakes. Everyone that came (and ones that couldn't make it) wants another get together, so we are looking to use the photos to make another DVD, Calendar & Diary for 2013 So if any of you had family or friends that lived Down Tansh' (our pet name for Tanshelf) then we would like to hear from you. Lots of the people went for a drink in the Ex-Servicemen's Club on Front Street just up from Tanshelf on way into Pontefract town centre. Later Dunhill's took over this building, now the Liquorice Factory now belongs to Haribo. A new club was built around corner on Sessions House Yard after row of houses demolished. Later the Police Station was built next to Club. I lived there until 1971/72 when all houses demolished and lots, of my ancestors & family did too. So we are also looking for help with memories & photos of this Club and the houses that were on Sessions House Yard. My gran Annie HOLT was born at No. 11 in 1906 and I've never seen these houses nor found any on these web sites that have a old photo's: http://www.twixtaireandcalder.org.uk/search.htm http://www.twixtaireandcalder.org.uk/search.htm?term=tanshelf&type=Or&exclude=&include=All&resStart=0&resEnd=20&ao=&thumb= http://www.wakefieldmuseumcollections.org.uk/photographs/index.asp?page=intro http://www.wakefieldmuseumcollections.org.uk/photographs/index.asp?page=hitlist&mwsquery=%28%7BCategory%7D%3D%7Bphotographs%7D%29&mwsQueryTemplate=%5B%7Bcontrol%3DwordPrefix%7D%7Bindex%3DPhrase+search%7D%7Brelation%3D%3D%7D%5D&wordPrefix=Tanshelf&submit_button= thank you, Maureen & Jacky CLIFF, REYNOLDS, PONSONBY, HOLT, TONKS ............ WOOTTON ........

Hi Audrey Google is your friend http://hearthtax.org.uk/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearth_tax <http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/hearth-tax.htm> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 23/06/2012 19:42, Audrey Bowne wrote: > where can you find info on > hearth taxes ? > thanks > Audrey Bowne

As Janice Wood says, a must for anyone anywhere near Yorkshire or who dare risk traveling into such wild parts :) All these Ascot hats are giving me ideas - sadly not the skills to make them. For those who tweet perhaps you wouldn't mind following me for a week or so to find details of our get together at York. Should be a great day as ever. Best wishes Jackie @JackieDepelle

Google "David Hey" and Hearth Tax. You will see many reviews of his work and several projects jointly with George Redmonds. Better still if you are anywhere near West Yorkshire then come to the Annual Lecture Day with our Administrator, Janice Wood and others from Yorksgen. Saturday 21st July 2012. _http://yourfairladies.ning.com/events/annual-lecture-day_ (http://yourfairladies.ning.com/events/annual-lecture-day) He gave a similar talk at the Guild of One Name Studies Conference earlier in the year which was excellent. Jackie

Hello all, Each year, as part of our Yorksgen conference, Jackie Depelle organises a Family History Lecture Day, which is open to all and very highly recommended, as there are always some top class speakers there. This year is no exception. Jackie has booked four very knowledgeable and experienced speakers and a good variety of subjects - Mayhem on the Midland : Researching Your Railway Ancestors : Chris and Judy Rouse Surname Distributions and the Hearth Tax Returns of the 1660s and 1670s : David Hey A Different Kind of Rural : Unexpected Ways of Life of Farmworkers in Northern England 1890 - 1939 : Dr Stephen Caunce Ancestry from Abroad: Migration to England between 1330 and 1550 – Dr Bart Lambert Refreshments provided, please bring your own packed lunch. Level access available, full facilities (new 2011), on street residential parking. £16.00 per person. Advance bookings please. See full details and Download your Booking Form http://yourfairladies.ning.com/events/annual-lecture-day?rsvpConfirm=1 We hope to see some more Yorksgen people attending this event, as some of our listers, visiting from overseas, would like to be able to meet up with some native Yorkshire friends. We may be able to arrange help with transport from Leeds Railway Station or from the York area. See also, on Jackie’s website, DNA and Family History, a day school with Chris Pomeroy, an expert in the field of DNA. This will be on Saturday 31st August, 10.30am – 3.30pm. I attended this day school earlier this year and found it most enlightening. I am planning to go again and take some friends. Regards, Janice Wood

The IGI can be found at https://familysearch.org/search/collection/igi As far as I am aware (and I'm sure I will be corrected) , the IGI collections were gradually being transferred to the Familysearch site, and that eventually the IGI as we knew and loved it, will be no more. Lin On 23/06/2012 13:30, roy.stockdill@btinternet.com wrote: > From: "Frank Turner" <frank@cyberscotia.com> > >> Hi Roy >> Sorry to be such a pain but if you enter William Turner Marriage >> Wakefield Yorkshire 1800 to 1820 it's the first one to come up.It gives index >> project 103723-7 and source film 1542102. Marbles at the ready ? >> You are right about Lin's source though. >> Cheers >> Frank < > Thanks, Frank, I've now found it and it also appears at Findmypast's Parish Records > Collection marriages. > > The odd thing is, though, that I found it at the main general FamilySearch website but it does > not appear at the IGI search site (check for yourself). I can only assume this is because it > was an LDS submission and these seem to have been discarded, at least for the time being. > A faded-out link for "Community contributed IGI" says "coming soon". > > I seem to have lost the old IGI search site which I much preferred. I had it bookmarked but > now get a message saying "not found" when I try to call it up. I don't much care for the new > site but I suppose I'll have to get used to it! > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Where did you find this information? My g-g-grandfather was a schoolmaster in Ingleby-Greenhow and I would love to find any information! Barbara McLean Murrieta, CA -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mabel Jowsey Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 4:36 PM To: Yorksgen Yorksgen Subject: [YORKSGEN] 1834 Reference for Schooolmaster Reference for a Schoolmaster in 1834 To all to whom these presents shall come. We the inhabitants of Beale alias Beaghall in the Parish of Kellington in the County of York do hereby certify that John DIXON of the same place Schoolmaster is a person of good fame and of sober life and conversation. Given under our hands this 23 Day of May in the Year of our Lord One thousand Eight hundred and thirty four. J. LOWTHIAN, Minister G. E. W. DAVISON, Curate Benjm. SHILLITO, Church Wardin John COWARD, Sessor Thos. DICKON, Constable & Overseer Mrs. T. RAMBY, her mark Geo. COWARD Wm. WRIGHT, Wheelwright & c Thomas BREARS, Farmer Abraham BAXTER, Farmer William JACKSON Wm. HERRIS Robert COWARD, Publican Joseph PIPER, Farmer Wm. DICKONE Hannah WOOD Licence issued herein from 20 June 1834 What were your ancestors doing before the 1841 census? Hope someone will find a connection wish I could. Mabel in NZ ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Morning all.  I know what one of mine was doing... he was in court.  I found him yesterday in the British Newspapers Online.:- 13th July 1839 John CHANDLER, keeper of a beer-shop, at Holy-hill, in the township of Hipswell, was convicted of keeping his house open for the sale of beer, on Sunday, the 9th of June last, between the hours of eleven and twelve in the forenoon.....  Fined 30s and costs......Charles EARL and Mark BEARPARK (my chap) were convicted of having been found tipling at the above beer-shop.... Fined 3s4d each. Naughty boy (vbg)...I can almost hear my very Methodist Nanna turning in her grave. It seems too that Mark made a habit of this behaviour.  More research to do... ttfn Trish Ex Hull lass on central coast of NSW --- On Sun, 24/6/12, Mabel Jowsey <mjowsey@es.co.nz> wrote: From: Mabel Jowsey <mjowsey@es.co.nz> Subject: [YORKSGEN] 1834 Reference for Schooolmaster To: "Yorksgen Yorksgen" <Yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Received: Sunday, 24 June, 2012, 9:36 AM Reference for a Schoolmaster in 1834 “To all to whom these presents shall come. We the inhabitants of Beale alias Beaghall in  the Parish of Kellington in the County of York do hereby certify that John DIXON of the same place Schoolmaster is a person of good fame and of sober life and conversation.  Given under our hands this 23 Day of May in  the Year of our Lord One thousand Eight hundred and thirty four. J. LOWTHIAN,  Minister G. E. W. DAVISON,  Curate Benjm. SHILLITO,  Church Wardin John COWARD,  ‘Sessor Thos. DICKON,  Constable & Overseer Mrs. T. RAMBY,  her mark Geo. COWARD Wm. WRIGHT,  Wheelwright & c Thomas BREARS,   Farmer Abraham BAXTER,  Farmer William JACKSON Wm. HERRIS Robert COWARD,  Publican Joseph PIPER,  Farmer Wm. DICKONE Hannah WOOD Licence issued herein from 20 June 1834” What were your ancestors doing before the 1841 census? Hope someone will find a connection – wish I could. Mabel in NZ ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lin, I had another look at the 1861 census and I believe you are right that John is 50. That makes a big difference. I also found the marriage of John and Jane Waterworth in 1835. This gives me more to search as I have come across another possible marriage for John in 1851 to Mary Ann Phillips. John's father was Thomas, a tailor, so it's worth following. Thank you Lin. I appreciate you time. Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lin" <dml5481@hotmail.com> To: "Margaret Cambridge" <talktomarg@shaw.ca> Marg, Having looked at the 1861 census, it looks to me that John is 50 not 30. [John Stead death reg Wakefield Mar Q 1869 aged 58] John is on 1841 census, Wakefield aged 30, bookkeeper with Jane aged 30 and Joe Waterworth (8) and Thos Waterworth (5). Could these be children from Jane's previous marriage? Jane Waterworth married John Stead 21 Mar 1835 All Saints Wakefield by Licence Lin

I would like to thank Janice and Yvonne for taking the time to have a look for my John Walter STEAD. I would also like to say thank you and..........WOW.........to Lin. That was amazing. How did you do it. I used numerous spelling and ** but would never have come up with SHAW, WATHSTLAND and SLAITE. And........so quickly too. As the Brits say.......Brilliant. Thank you,........ Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lin" <dml5481@hotmail.com> To: "Margaret Cambridge" <talktomarg@shaw.ca> HI Marg Unless I've misread your mail, John Walter STEAD's birth is reg Wakefield Mar Q 1859,, In 1881 he is at 27 Ebbaston Terrace, Headingley cum Burley, under the name of SHAW, unmarried, 22, solicitor's clerk, born Wakefield In 1901 he is still in Headingley, the name is John Walter Stead, but is transcribed as WATHSTLAND 1911 he is still in Headingley indexed as John Waller SLAITE, aged 52, solicitor It doesn't look as though he ever married. Lin On 23/06/2012 21:05, Margaret Cambridge wrote: > If someone has time on their hands..-)) this lovely summer day and doesn't > mind a challenge I would appreciate help in finding my John Walter STEAD, > born abt 1859, Wakefield, the son of John STEAD and Harriet Lake STEAD > (maiden name also STEAD. > > John STEAD senior was previously married but I am unable to find his > first marriage. He was a widower when he married Harriet on 28 Sept 1858 > St John, Wakefield. > > In 1861 I find John, 30. a bookkeeper, and Harriet living at Bond Street, > Wakefield with their son John, 2. > > This John senior died in 1869 and Harriet married Joseph MARSLAND, a > widower, on 5 July 1870, Wakefield. > > In 1871 Joseph and Harriet MARSLAND are living at Burton Street, Wakefield > with young John Walter STEAD, stepson aged 12. > I have not been able to find John Walter STEAD in 1881. > In 1891 he is living at 27 Ebbaston St., Headingley, Leeds and is a 32 > year old solicitor. He is recorded as married but his wife is not in the > home and I haven't been able to find a marriage. > > Then he disappears until 1917 when I find "At a Court of the Feltmakers > Company Summoned and held at the Guildhall in the City of London on Monday > the 2nd day of July 1917, Colonel John Walter Stead, of Cookridge Street, > Leeds, son of John and Harriet Stead, formerly Stead, was admiited to the > Freedom of the Company by redemption." > > I have search and searched and racked by brain with no success in finding > his birth or marriage or his whereabouts in 1881 and after 1891. > > John Walter STEAD died 10 Jan 1947 at Coronation Hospital, Ilkley, > Yorkshire leaving effects of £87,960 naming a business partner as > executor. > > Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Marg > >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada

Think the marbles are rolling :) Here it is on the IGI: spouse: Sarah Stockdale groom's name: William Turner bride's name: Sarah Stockdale marriage date: 02 Mar 1807 marriage place: Wakefield, York, England indexing project (batch) number: I03723-7 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1542102 Lin >> F >> Unless I'm losing my marbles (quite possibly) I can still see no marriage >> for a William Turner >> to Sarah Stockdale (in any variant of the name) on the IGI at Wakefield. >> -- >> Roy Stockdill >> Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer >> Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: >> www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html >> >> "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, >> and that is not being talked about." >> OSCAR WILDE >> >> >> >> > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

From: "Frank Turner" <frank@cyberscotia.com> > Hi Roy > Sorry to be such a pain but if you enter William Turner Marriage > Wakefield Yorkshire 1800 to 1820 it's the first one to come up.It gives index > project 103723-7 and source film 1542102. Marbles at the ready ? > You are right about Lin's source though. > Cheers > Frank < Thanks, Frank, I've now found it and it also appears at Findmypast's Parish Records Collection marriages. The odd thing is, though, that I found it at the main general FamilySearch website but it does not appear at the IGI search site (check for yourself). I can only assume this is because it was an LDS submission and these seem to have been discarded, at least for the time being. A faded-out link for "Community contributed IGI" says "coming soon". I seem to have lost the old IGI search site which I much preferred. I had it bookmarked but now get a message saying "not found" when I try to call it up. I don't much care for the new site but I suppose I'll have to get used to it! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE