I am trying to sort out various Robinsons in north east Cleveland and have a clutch of wills from the Loftus/Lofthouse area where my ancestor Robert Robinson married in 1714 (from his gravestone at Skelton he would have been born around 1687). At his marriage in 1714 he was said to be "de Lofthouse" but his wife was from Skelton. The clutch of wills belong to people with known family forenames (John, Thomas and Robert). They are from the first 30 years of the 1700s and one will of a Robert Robinson who died in 1723 mentions two sons, Robert and Francis. "My Robert" who married in 1714 had sons John, Robert, Francis and Thomas (in order) so I am drawn to this particular line because of the Francis connection. Apart from land at Loftus the 1722 will of Robert senior mentions land at Barnby, Lythe which may have come from the wife's (Margaret?) side of the family as she was the first to inherit. I have also found records relating to a Francis Robinson who was the schoolteacher at Lythe who died in 1765, although his will gives no clues to a connection with "my Robert". Sorry if this sounds a bit complicated! My query is whether there would be any records for schoolteachers at that time - i.e. did they need any formal qualifications (other than being able to read and write) and would there be any records/archives that might give further information on him. One further query - I have just noticed that Robert's 1714 marriage licence was sealed and delivered in the presence of a John Robinson (not the bondsman), but I am assuming this John could have been a cousin and not his father?? Margaret O'Shea (nee Robinson) Oxford

Likewise, Happy 4th July, USA. Today (Yesterday in Australia) My husband Terry and I celebrate our 25th wedding anniversary. Regards Ann Spiro Perth WA. baskett@one-name.org briggs@one-name.org http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Baskett Blacksmiths & Related Occupations http://blacksmiths.mygenwebs.com 

Hi Tony I think you may well be right but it would be just the 12th Lancers then as they did not amalgamate with the 9th until 1960 I am embarrassed not to have recognised it as its my brothers regiment or rather was I mislead myself by looking for a 13th when it was 12th, looking further than I need Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) PS note to self, get eyes checked <g> On 05/07/2012 10:50, Tpattinson wrote: > Anne > > It would appear to be 9th/12th Lancers > > Tony

Anne, It would appear to be the 12th Royal Lancers - they were almagated with the 9th in 1960 to form the 9/12. Click on the website below. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12th_Royal_Lancers Don. ----- Original Message ----- From: Anne Garrison To: YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 9:43 AM Subject: [YORKSGEN] which WW2 regiment? I am trying to work out which regiment my Uncle, Leslie Davey served in during WW2. Although he lived almost all of his life in Spofforth (between Harrogate & Wetherby), I remember my Aunt (his wife) saying that he was called up to a London regiment as he was working in London at the time. I have a photo which shows a cap badge, I have found a lot of sites with cap badges (mostly wanting to sell them) but I haven’t found anything similar. I have put the photo on some webspace at http://www.argarrison.plus.com/ .

Anne Sorry that should be 12th Lancers en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12th_Royal_Lancers Tony Sent from my iPad On 5 Jul 2012, at 09:43, "Anne Garrison" <Anne@argarrison.plus.com> wrote: > I am trying to work out which regiment my Uncle, Leslie Davey served in during WW2. > Although he lived almost all of his life in Spofforth (between Harrogate & Wetherby), I remember my Aunt (his wife) saying that he was called up to a London regiment as he was working in London at the time. > I have a photo which shows a cap badge, I have found a lot of sites with cap badges (mostly wanting to sell them) but I haven’t found anything similar. I have put the photo on some webspace at http://www.argarrison.plus.com/ . > > I have sent for his birth certificate so will know his date of birth, I think that he was called up in 1939 and served in North Africa and through Italy, there is also a story that he was demobbed in Italy and had to make his own way home but I don’t know how true that is. > > With so little to go on am I likely to be able to find any more information? > > I now have my Aunts engagement ring and the receipt from Leech's Jewellers in Beulah Street Harrogate dated November 1939 - cost £9, they were married in November 1945. > > Anne Garrison > Reading, Berkshire UK > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anne It would appear to be 9th/12th Lancers Tony Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: "Anne Garrison" <Anne@argarrison.plus.com> > Date: 5 July 2012 09:43:01 GMT+01:00 > To: <YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [YORKSGEN] which WW2 regiment? > > I am trying to work out which regiment my Uncle, Leslie Davey served in during WW2. > Although he lived almost all of his life in Spofforth (between Harrogate & Wetherby), I remember my Aunt (his wife) saying that he was called up to a London regiment as he was working in London at the time. > I have a photo which shows a cap badge, I have found a lot of sites with cap badges (mostly wanting to sell them) but I haven’t found anything similar. I have put the photo on some webspace at http://www.argarrison.plus.com/ . > > I have sent for his birth certificate so will know his date of birth, I think that he was called up in 1939 and served in North Africa and through Italy, there is also a story that he was demobbed in Italy and had to make his own way home but I don’t know how true that is. > > With so little to go on am I likely to be able to find any more information? > > I now have my Aunts engagement ring and the receipt from Leech's Jewellers in Beulah Street Harrogate dated November 1939 - cost £9, they were married in November 1945. > > Anne Garrison > Reading, Berkshire UK > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Anne I have several books on the subject yet failed to find a match for the badge in the photo The nearest I can find is the crossed Kukri badge of the Gurkha regiments but am not convinced of that The photo is very low resolution, is there a chance of a better quality scan? I notice what looks like an XIII badge on his shoulder but again I can find nothing that fits Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 05/07/2012 09:43, Anne Garrison wrote: > I am trying to work out which regiment my Uncle, Leslie Davey served in during WW2. > Although he lived almost all of his life in Spofforth (between Harrogate & Wetherby), I remember my Aunt (his wife) saying that he was called up to a London regiment as he was working in London at the time. > I have a photo which shows a cap badge, I have found a lot of sites with cap badges (mostly wanting to sell them) but I haven’t found anything similar. I have put the photo on some webspace at http://www.argarrison.plus.com/ . > > I have sent for his birth certificate so will know his date of birth, I think that he was called up in 1939 and served in North Africa and through Italy, there is also a story that he was demobbed in Italy and had to make his own way home but I don’t know how true that is. > > With so little to go on am I likely to be able to find any more information? > > I now have my Aunts engagement ring and the receipt from Leech's Jewellers in Beulah Street Harrogate dated November 1939 - cost £9, they were married in November 1945. > > Anne Garrison > Reading, Berkshire UK

May I just say "thank you" to all the kind folks who sent me birthday wishes yesterday, especially those listers in America whose Independence Day anniversary I share, and also our Australian friends. Thanks, folks! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

I am trying to work out which regiment my Uncle, Leslie Davey served in during WW2. Although he lived almost all of his life in Spofforth (between Harrogate & Wetherby), I remember my Aunt (his wife) saying that he was called up to a London regiment as he was working in London at the time. I have a photo which shows a cap badge, I have found a lot of sites with cap badges (mostly wanting to sell them) but I haven’t found anything similar. I have put the photo on some webspace at http://www.argarrison.plus.com/ . I have sent for his birth certificate so will know his date of birth, I think that he was called up in 1939 and served in North Africa and through Italy, there is also a story that he was demobbed in Italy and had to make his own way home but I don’t know how true that is. With so little to go on am I likely to be able to find any more information? I now have my Aunts engagement ring and the receipt from Leech's Jewellers in Beulah Street Harrogate dated November 1939 - cost £9, they were married in November 1945. Anne Garrison Reading, Berkshire UK

Hi Nivard, Are WW2 Medals listed anywhere he may have been entitled to one. Regards.   Elaine Pickard Sheffield Indexers Site Admin. www.sheffieldindexers.com >________________________________ > From: Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> >To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com >Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2012 5:48:30 AM >Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] which WW2 regiment? > >Hi Anne > >I have several books on the subject yet failed to find a match for the >badge in the photo > >The nearest I can find is the crossed Kukri badge of the Gurkha >regiments but am not convinced of that > >The photo is very low resolution, is there a chance of a better quality >scan? > >I notice what looks like an XIII badge on his shoulder but again I can >find nothing that fits > >Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > >On 05/07/2012 09:43, Anne Garrison wrote: >> I am trying to work out which regiment my  Uncle,  Leslie Davey served in during WW2. >> Although he lived almost all of his life in Spofforth (between Harrogate & Wetherby), I remember my Aunt (his wife) saying that he was called up to a London regiment as he was working in London at the time. >> I have a photo which shows a cap badge, I have found a lot of sites with cap badges  (mostly wanting to sell them) but I haven’t found anything similar.  I have put the photo on some webspace at  http://www.argarrison.plus.com/  . >> >> I have sent for his birth certificate so will know his date of birth, I think that he was called up in 1939 and served in North Africa and through Italy, there is also a story that he was demobbed in Italy and had to make his own way home but I don’t know how true that is. >> >> With so little to go on am I likely to be able to find any more information? >> >> I now have my Aunts engagement ring and the receipt from Leech's Jewellers in Beulah Street Harrogate dated November 1939 - cost £9, they were married in November 1945. >> >> Anne Garrison >> Reading, Berkshire UK >..... >Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; >www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; >www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

From: Lin <dml5481@hotmail.com> > May I suggest Midgley for the coconut? > > I was registered twice too.> Well done, Lin. Got it in one! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

May I suggest Midgley for the coconut? I was registered twice too. Lin PLEASE REMOVE NAMES & email ADDRESSES BEFORE FORWARDING. USE THE Bcc BOX FOR YOUR NAMES & ADDRESSES WHICH WILL HELP ELIMINATE UNWANTED EMAILS On 04/07/2012 12:03, roy.stockdill@btinternet.com wrote: > May I send my best wishes to all our American cousins over there - including those who don't > always appreciate my somewhat warped and waspish British sense of humour (!) - on their > Independence Day, the Fourth of July, which also happens to be my birthday? > > And there's no need to look me up at FreeBMD, folks, you won't find me in the appropriate > quarter or even the one after that! Because it was wartime and perhaps because my parents > weren't actually married to one another at the time, they neglected to register me until well > outside the legal limit of 42 days. > > You will find me in the Jan-March quarter of 1941, registered TWICE! Anyone who can tell > me what other name I was registered in wins a coconut! > > Have a good Independence Day, folks - having said which, you know my view that it was a > mistake to give it to you in the first place !!! <b.g.> > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Maureen's posting about the Pontefract liquorice festival prompted me to write. (And I do miss Pontefract Cakes). I apologize now for the length of this missive but it is a holiday! Does anyone from Pontefract remember Dr. Freda WALTON or her parents? She lived at 4 Carleton Park Avenue, Pontefract and had her surgery at 16 Argyle Road, Ferrybridge. Throughout my childhood we had sporadic, unannounced, visits from Aunt Freda (no relation) and she never forgot my birthday. She had met my parents at University in Leeds and they remained life long friends. Freda never married and was a GP in Pontefract from the time she qualified until she retired and, although I saw her as late as 1990, I knew little about her life. Her parents may have lived in Pontefract but I'm not certain about that. The family had some association with Knuzden near Blackburn, Lancs and she (or her parents) named their house in Pontefract 'Knuzden'. I don’t know when or where she was born but there are several birth records on FreeBMD that are possible. I would say that she was about the same age as my mother who was born in 1921. She died in the late 1990s. Not knowing the names of Freda's parents is a problem because I am trying to find a connection between Freda's family and a Tom Naisby born in Blackburn in 1909, son of George William Naisby and wife Margaret Sharrat (married 1904 in Blackburn). Tom was a news reader for 23 years and died in 1972. 'On January 26th, 1971 BBC Radio Blackburn went on air at noon, opened by Tom Naisby, who had been the voice of the old BBC North Region (in Manchester).' Tom had two sons, John and Stephen. In 1971 or 1972 (date based on the fact that the stamps on the envelope are decimal currency and Tom died in 1972) someone mailed to T. Naisby, Esq at 405 Audley Range, Blackburn the hand written autobiography of Miles Nightingale (1826 – 1899.) Miles was baptized 29 Jan 1826 at St Katherine, Blackrod, Lancs. In 1893 he started a Temperance Band called the String Band of the United Methodist Free Church Knuzden and two members of the band were George William Naisby and Robert Walton. So I can make a connection between the names Nightingale, Naisby, Walton and Knuzden but not a connection between the Robert Walton in the band and Freda Walton in Pontefract. I also don’t know if any of these Nightingales, Naisbys and Waltons were related or just friends and neighbours. At some point this same autobiography was mailed to Freda Walton in Pontefract. No envelope survives from that mailing so I don’t know when she received it. My mother acquired the book on Freda’s death and now I have it. Any help would be much appreciated. I have found all the census records for Miles and his descendants and some for the Naisbys so it is help with Freda’s parents and their connection to Robert Walton, Knuzden, and the Naisbys that would be most valuable. One other possible relevant piece of information is that a John Walton was baptized at Immanuel, Oswaldtwistle on 28 Mar 1862, parents James and Luisa and their abode was Cabin End, Oswaldtwistle. Miles Nightingale lived at Cabin End in 1861 and the next street on the census sheet is Knuzden Brook. Before I kick the bucket I would like to see this autobiography in the hands of one of Miles descendants. He had ten children so it seems that somewhere a descendant must exist. I have traced some of the children and grandchildren up to 1911 and possible great, great, grandchildren Lynn, Andrea and Stephen William Nightingale, the latter born Garstand in 1970 but connections are tenuous at best and I have not been able to contact them. Happy 4th. Jane Charlottesville, VA

Be careful Midgely! or you'll get struck off again Janice Wood List admin ________________________________ From: "roy.stockdill@btinternet.com" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2012, 12:03 Subject: [YORKSGEN] Fourth of July greetings May I send my best wishes to all our American cousins over there - including those who don't always appreciate my somewhat warped and waspish British sense of humour (!) - on their Independence Day, the Fourth of July, which also happens to be my birthday? And there's no need to look me up at FreeBMD, folks, you won't find me in the appropriate quarter or even the one after that! Because it was wartime and perhaps because my parents weren't actually married to one another at the time, they neglected to register me until well outside the legal limit of 42 days. You will find me in the Jan-March quarter of 1941, registered TWICE! Anyone who can tell me what other name I was registered in wins a coconut! Have a good Independence Day, folks - having said which, you know my view that it was a mistake to give it to you in the first place !!! <b.g.> -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

or Margerison? . . . . Roy wrote " he was a lifelong friend of my mother's (and I suspect an old boyfriend since she always called him "Billy" . . . . " Since you met him once or twice, and he was a 'delightful man', we have at least two leads right in this email. Actually, I think I remember your saying you have Margerisons in your ancestry, too, as do I. Brigitte Begue Hartke in sunny, hot, Clifton, Virginia On 7/4/12 9:38 AM, Lin wrote: > May I suggest Midgley for the coconut? > > I was registered twice too. > > Lin > > > PLEASE REMOVE NAMES & email ADDRESSES BEFORE FORWARDING. USE THE Bcc BOX > FOR YOUR NAMES & ADDRESSES WHICH WILL HELP ELIMINATE UNWANTED EMAILS > On 04/07/2012 12:03, roy.stockdill@btinternet.com wrote: >> May I send my best wishes to all our American cousins over there - including those who don't >> always appreciate my somewhat warped and waspish British sense of humour (!) - on their >> Independence Day, the Fourth of July, which also happens to be my birthday? >> >> And there's no need to look me up at FreeBMD, folks, you won't find me in the appropriate >> quarter or even the one after that! Because it was wartime and perhaps because my parents >> weren't actually married to one another at the time, they neglected to register me until well >> outside the legal limit of 42 days. >> >> You will find me in the Jan-March quarter of 1941, registered TWICE! Anyone who can tell >> me what other name I was registered in wins a coconut! >> >> Have a good Independence Day, folks - having said which, you know my view that it was a >> mistake to give it to you in the first place !!! <b.g.> >> >> -- >> Roy Stockdill >> Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer >> Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html >> >> "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, >> and that is not being talked about." >> OSCAR WILDE >> >> >> ..... >> Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; >> www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; >> www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

May I send my best wishes to all our American cousins over there - including those who don't always appreciate my somewhat warped and waspish British sense of humour (!) - on their Independence Day, the Fourth of July, which also happens to be my birthday? And there's no need to look me up at FreeBMD, folks, you won't find me in the appropriate quarter or even the one after that! Because it was wartime and perhaps because my parents weren't actually married to one another at the time, they neglected to register me until well outside the legal limit of 42 days. You will find me in the Jan-March quarter of 1941, registered TWICE! Anyone who can tell me what other name I was registered in wins a coconut! Have a good Independence Day, folks - having said which, you know my view that it was a mistake to give it to you in the first place !!! <b.g.> -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Thank you Roy for the good wishes on our Independence Day. Fun days of celebrations, picnic, family Bar BQ's, parades and cardboard boat races. Yep, that's not a misprint. On the lake in our city we hacw cardboard boat races. They are held on Lake Sacajawea, you can look this up on-line. Sorry we disappointed you by running away, but we love coming back to visit. Best of all is the help you provide when we are researching. Pat Washington State PS..........Happy Birthday to you

Here is a link to a website to play with. It has lots of information including old and up to date maps re North Lincolnshire (and everywhere else in the UK). http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/unit_page.jsp;jsessionid=67E21C294D4BA44DB702BAC6E0792E9F?u_id=10189019&x=3309261.71585&y=3018764.37576 BTW, there are two Beltons in Lincolnshire - you need the one that is prefixed by the word North. Ruth

Happy Birthday from us all, Roy!! -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Fourth of July greetings -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html

I worked for a British company (Micro Focus) from 1994 to 1997... some of the happiest days of my life! I was never an Anglophile before that, but after that experience I became quite enamored with the sceptred isle, and was very embarrassed when they had to give us Americans the day off with pay! This was well before I got into genealogy and history, but since then my respect has just continued to grow. Best regards, Stephanie On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 4:03 AM, <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> wrote: > May I send my best wishes to all our American cousins over there - including those who don't > always appreciate my somewhat warped and waspish British sense of humour (!) - on their > Independence Day, the Fourth of July, which also happens to be my birthday? > > And there's no need to look me up at FreeBMD, folks, you won't find me in the appropriate > quarter or even the one after that! Because it was wartime and perhaps because my parents > weren't actually married to one another at the time, they neglected to register me until well > outside the legal limit of 42 days. > > You will find me in the Jan-March quarter of 1941, registered TWICE! Anyone who can tell > me what other name I was registered in wins a coconut! > > Have a good Independence Day, folks - having said which, you know my view that it was a > mistake to give it to you in the first place !!! <b.g.> > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message