Hi Chris My g.g.grandparents married in July 1857 and had their first child in May 1858 They went on to have thirteen children until my g.g.grandmother died aged 38 at 8.20pm 16th December 1874, eight hours after the birth of their last daughter Alice The longest gap between giving birth and falling pregnant with the next was 11 months Nine girls and four boys All lived to adulthood They were not from Yorkshire although one son set up in Keighley and farmed there for many years, their descendants are still in the area For myself, I am the youngest of ten and the great grandson of another tenth child Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 25/07/2012 07:24, CHRISTINE WILLOTT wrote: > The list is rather quiet at present so on the way back from the Wakefield archives yesterday, we decided to suggest a competition. Family sizes in the past were large so who has got the family with the most children to any one set of parents? Step families are excluded. Then we thought who had the most girls in a family and who had the most boys? > > Chris

consisted of 11 children who lived..6 sons and 5 daughters. Rita in Germany

From: CHRISTINE WILLOTT <christine.willott@btopenworld.com> > The list is rather quiet at present so on the way back from the Wakefield archives yesterday, we decided to suggest a competition. Family sizes in the past were large so who has got the family with the most children to any one set of parents? Step families are excluded. Then we thought who had the most girls in a family and who had the most boys?< I do a talk called "It's A Funny Old Genealogical World", comprising snippets and anecdotes, comical and bizarre, from parish registers, censuses, wills, MIs and other family history material from all over the UK but with a substantial Yorkshire content. I gave it recently to Janice's Ryedale FHG and if anyone wants to invite me to deliver it to their society, I think she will confirm it was much enjoyed! Anyway, one of the items I mention is this entry from the baptisms at Holy Trinity, Hull..... 20 July 1812:- Jane dau of Joseph & Mary MURRAY (N.B. This is the 28th child this man has had christened by two wives). This probably won't qualify for Christine's competition since Joseph Murray apparently had two wives. But, if true, his reproductive abilities must have been in fine fettle! BTW, Christine, could I suggest another competition? Who can produce an ancestor who not only appeared in every census from 1841-1911 but with ALL DETAILS CORRECT in every one? I can claim a great-grandfather, ANDREW YOUNG, who was born at Wotton-under-Edge, Gloucestershire, in 1831 and who died at West Derby, Liverpool, while visiting a daughter, in 1911, aged 80. Andrew was a West Country weaver who went to Bradford for work and was enumerated in various places..... 1841 and 1851 - Frome, Somerset 1861 and 1871 - Twerton, Bath 1881-1901 - Bradford 1911 - Otley Unfortunately, I can't put him up for a competition because not all details were correct in every census. In 1851 he was inadvertently recorded as Arthur instead of Andrew and in 1901 and 1911 his birthplace was given as Frome, Somerset (where he lived as a boy) when in fact it was Wotton-under-Edge, Glos. I reckon this shows how even close family got details wrong in the censuses and how careful we need to be! Andrew completed the censuses himself from 1861-1891 and gave his correct birth place but in 1901 and 1911 he was living with married daughters, having been widowed, and their husbands were heads of the household and must have assumed Andrew had been born at Frome. He and his wife, SARAH MEAD, had at least 10 children that I have found. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Well, I'm a loser! Only two boys and one of them has disappeared after 1870 census. Does 11 children from a Yorkshire emigrant who moved to Hawaii and had the children there count? -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karlena Nagle Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:38 AM To: CHRISTINE WILLOTT; YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] family size Hi Christine and all, I have a family (who were not from Yorkshire) where there were 16 children born to one set of parents, Robert Wise and his wife Mary Ann Lucas, here in Tasmania. An even balance of 8 girls and 8 boys. But not quite satisfied with his efforts at populating Tassie Robert then married again, to Elizabeth Barratt, after he was widowed and they produced a further 12 children. With the exception of two children, who I don't have death dates for, the other 26 children all survived to adulthood. Robert was born in 1818 and his youngest child was born in 1901 so Robert was 26 when his eldest child was born and 83 years old when his last child was born. I have yet to discover an older new father ;-) Due to the wide spread of ages of the children, Robert has 5xgreat grandchildren alive today as well as grandchildren although not on the same lines of course. Bye Karlena from a chilly Tasmania, Australia. -----Original Message----- From: CHRISTINE WILLOTT Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:24 PM To: YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] family size The list is rather quiet at present so on the way back from the Wakefield archives yesterday, we decided to suggest a competition. Family sizes in the past were large so who has got the family with the most children to any one set of parents? Step families are excluded. Then we thought who had the most girls in a family and who had the most boys? Chris ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My father was one of 14 children of his father's second marriage, produced over a period of 20 years, ten of whom survived into adulthood. There was also an older half-brother, my uncle Tom, who was sadly killed in 1917 at Passchendaele. Rob > The list is rather quiet at present so on the way back from the Wakefield archives yesterday, we decided to suggest a competition. Family sizes in the past were large so who has got the family with the most children to any one set of parents? Step families are excluded. Then we thought who had the most girls in a family and who had the most boys? > > Chris > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hiya Christine & list, my 3x gr grandparents John BAGGAN & Hariet (nee THOMPSON) had 7 daughters: Mary Elizabeth - married William ECCLESTON 1874 Jane -married Frederick WOFFENDEN 1866 Hannah - married William SYKES 1868 Emma only one not to marry Sarah Ann - married George Temple PICKUP 1874 Eliza - married John SCHOLES 1879 Harriet - married Harry PONSONBY 1879 (my 2x gr/parents) Maureen x -----Original Message----- From: CHRISTINE WILLOTT <christine.willott@btopenworld.com> The list is rather quiet at present so on the way back from the Wakefield archives yesterday, we decided to suggest a competition. Family sizes in the past were large so who has got the family with the most children to any one set of parents? Step families are excluded. Then we thought who had the most girls in a family and who had the most boys? Chris

The trip to the deeds room yesterday revealed the whole history of the property where my g grandfather had his butcher's shop. Worth the visit. Chris

The list is rather quiet at present so on the way back from the Wakefield archives yesterday, we decided to suggest a competition. Family sizes in the past were large so who has got the family with the most children to any one set of parents? Step families are excluded. Then we thought who had the most girls in a family and who had the most boys? Chris

My great grandparents, William STEAD and Catherine SHILLITO, married 24 Sept 1872 and had 14 children born between June 1873 and August 1895 born Swinton. Sadly 7 of the children died very young, from 6 months to 9 years of age at death, and one son died as a prisoner of war in 1918. Catherine died in 1921 at age 70 and I have a picture of her at age 69 and she looks like she is 110. I could cry when I think of her inner sadness and I wish I could tell her that we are ok. Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada

In a message dated 25/07/2012 10:49:48 GMT Daylight Time, roy.stockdill@btinternet.com writes: From: CHRISTINE WILLOTT <christine.willott@btopenworld.com> > The list is rather quiet at present so on the way back from the Wakefield archives yesterday, we decided to suggest a competition. Family sizes in the past were large so who has got the family with the most children to any one set of parents? Step families are excluded. Then we thought who had the most girls in a family and who had the most boys?< I do a talk called "It's A Funny Old Genealogical World", comprising snippets and anecdotes, comical and bizarre, from parish registers, censuses, wills, MIs and other family history material from all over the UK but with a substantial Yorkshire content. I gave it recently to Janice's Ryedale FHG and if anyone wants to invite me to deliver it to their society, I think she will confirm it was much enjoyed! Anyway, one of the items I mention is this entry from the baptisms at Holy Trinity, Hull..... 20 July 1812:- Jane dau of Joseph & Mary MURRAY (N.B. This is the 28th child this man has had christened by two wives). This probably won't qualify for Christine's competition since Joseph Murray apparently had two wives. But, if true, his reproductive abilities must have been in fine fettle! BTW, Christine, could I suggest another competition? Who can produce an ancestor who not only appeared in every census from 1841-1911 but with ALL DETAILS CORRECT in every one? I can claim a great-grandfather, ANDREW YOUNG, who was born at Wotton-under-Edge, Gloucestershire, in 1831 and who died at West Derby, Liverpool, while visiting a daughter, in 1911, aged 80. Andrew was a West Country weaver who went to Bradford for work and was enumerated in various places..... 1841 and 1851 - Frome, Somerset 1861 and 1871 - Twerton, Bath 1881-1901 - Bradford 1911 - Otley Unfortunately, I can't put him up for a competition because not all details were correct in every census. In 1851 he was inadvertently recorded as Arthur instead of Andrew and in 1901 and 1911 his birthplace was given as Frome, Somerset (where he lived as a boy) when in fact it was Wotton-under-Edge, Glos. I reckon this shows how even close family got details wrong in the censuses and how careful we need to be! Andrew completed the censuses himself from 1861-1891 and gave his correct birth place but in 1901 and 1911 he was living with married daughters, having been widowed, and their husbands were heads of the household and must have assumed Andrew had been born at Frome. He and his wife, SARAH MEAD, had at least 10 children that I have found. ------------------------------- Hi, When my great aunt filled out the 1911 census she couldn't remember how many children she had had and how many were still living. She actually had 16 children but two had died soon after birth and the third died at two years. She wongly denoted only 14.. Her husband, Thomas Richards Elkington, started life in the most awful poverty with a drunken father who left having made his wife pregnant eight times when he was around and then disappearing completely and dying in the workhouse in 1904. However, Thomas was made for big things and fivally owned "the East Anglian Times". It seems his wife and he found comfort in each other and produced 16 children. He is shown in every census from 1851 to his death from a Stroke in 1910. I don't know if it is inherited but my father died from several little strokes and I have had two strokes although my mind is OK. JUDY ELKINGTON [North Derbyshire] www.elkingtonfamily.com Elkington@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

And then of course, there is High Tea at the Raffles Hotel in Singapore! Léonie Fretwell Burra, South Australia lfretwell@bigpond.com www.fretwell.kangaweb.com.au   -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Martin Briscoe Sent: Monday, 23 July 2012 7:35 PM To: YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] High Teas English High Tea would be a light snack of cakes and tea but it used to be quite common for Scottish hotels to do a High Tea between about 1700h (perhaps earlier) and 1800h (or later) with Dinner starting some time after 1900h. The menu would have a range of simple cooked dishes like sausage and chips, fish and chips etc which were served with plenty of toast then followed by a range of cakes and jam for the toast. Often the cooked dish would be similar of the same as those on the main Dinner menu so it could be cheaper alternative to Dinner without all the pomp. There would obviously be a big pot of tea or coffee as well. Martin Briscoe Fort William martin@mbriscoe.me.uk -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JJupar@aol.com Sent: 23 July 2012 10:45 To: kessie3@online.de; YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] High Teas In a message dated 23/07/2012 09:30:32 GMT Daylight Time, kessie3@online.de writes: When I asked my mother what a "High Tea" was she told me it's when you stand up and eat your tea off the shelf...... (mining humour...all her family were miners).Rita in Germany ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello from the Colonies, Listers, I have a Yorkshire Blackburn who ended up a long way from home. I live in Clifton, northern Virginia in the US, and was just recently looking into the Yorkshire origins of this man, Col. Richard Blackburn. I found one or two possibilities with Ancestry. I constantly try to find connections among somewhat well-known Americans and their Yorkshire roots. Blackburn built his Yorkshire Plantation just a few miles from where I live; I don't believe it still stands. Half a mile away there is also Blackburn's Ford over the nearby Bull Run River which played some crucial role during the Civil War in the States: Near Manassas in Prince William County, Virginia --- The American South (Mid-Atlantic) McLean Farm (Yorkshire Plantation) Inscription on a public plaque: Part of an early 18th century plantation established on Bull Run by Col. Richard Blackburn formerly of Yorkshire, England, the land was acquired by Wilmer McLean in 1854. The battle which opened 1st Manassas raged across this farm July 18, 1861, with the house and barn used as a headquarters and hospital by Confederate troops. Following 1st Manassas, in an attempt to escape the forefront of the war, McLean moved his family to the tiny village of Appomattox Court House. There, four years later, the war would come full circle to end in McLean's parlor with Lee's surrender to Grant, April 9, 1865. Erected 1988 by Prince William County Historical Commission. (Marker Number 48.) Marker series. This marker is included in the Virginia, Prince William County Historical Commission marker series. Location. 38° 47.59? N, 77° 26.863? W. Marker is near Manassas, Virginia, in Prince William County. Marker is on Centreville Road (Virginia Route 28), on the right when traveling south. Marker is at intersection of Centreville Road and Yorkshire Lane. Located beside parking lot of CVS/pharmacy. Marker is in this post office area: Manassas VA 20110, United States of America. Kindest regards, Brigitte Begue Hartke On 7/23/12 3:27 PM, roy.stockdill@btinternet.com wrote: > I wonder if any listers have connections to the above names from Leeds? I am currently > researching my next "Famous family histories" blog for Findmypast and I am sure it won't > take you lot long to work out who the subject is. > > WILLIAM HENRY CRAVEN married SARAH ANN MAY at Bramley RD in the March quarter > of 1905. > > PERCY NOBLE married FANNY W BLACKBURN at Leeds RD in the June quarter of 1911. > > They were the grandparents of a famous TV personality, two of their children married at > Leeds North RD in the Dec quarter of 1937 and their son is.........????? > > Interested to hear from anyone who thinks they may be related. > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From: Lin <dml5481@hotmail.com> > Mmmm > > Newsround > OBE > Countryfile > > WHO COULD IT BE??> Who indeed! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Mmmm Newsround OBE Countryfile WHO COULD IT BE?? PLEASE REMOVE NAMES & email ADDRESSES BEFORE FORWARDING. USE THE Bcc BOX FOR YOUR NAMES & ADDRESSES WHICH WILL HELP ELIMINATE UNWANTED EMAILS On 23/07/2012 20:27, roy.stockdill@btinternet.com wrote: > I wonder if any listers have connections to the above names from Leeds? I am currently > researching my next "Famous family histories" blog for Findmypast and I am sure it won't > take you lot long to work out who the subject is. > > WILLIAM HENRY CRAVEN married SARAH ANN MAY at Bramley RD in the March quarter > of 1905. > > PERCY NOBLE married FANNY W BLACKBURN at Leeds RD in the June quarter of 1911. > > They were the grandparents of a famous TV personality, two of their children married at > Leeds North RD in the Dec quarter of 1937 and their son is.........????? > > Interested to hear from anyone who thinks they may be related. > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I wonder if any listers have connections to the above names from Leeds? I am currently researching my next "Famous family histories" blog for Findmypast and I am sure it won't take you lot long to work out who the subject is. WILLIAM HENRY CRAVEN married SARAH ANN MAY at Bramley RD in the March quarter of 1905. PERCY NOBLE married FANNY W BLACKBURN at Leeds RD in the June quarter of 1911. They were the grandparents of a famous TV personality, two of their children married at Leeds North RD in the Dec quarter of 1937 and their son is.........????? Interested to hear from anyone who thinks they may be related. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

High tea in the South West was served about 7pm - I stayed with a Dorset farming family while my parents were abroad and we always had high tea on Sundays cold meats, salads, bread & butter and puddings often blancmange served with very thin bread and butter. My Yorkshire family high teas were along the same lines - nothing cooked a 'cold collation' basically a fancy way of saying what handy that included cakes and pies from the last week's baking. My Grandmother followed a long line of cooks with wide reportoire and whose recipes echoed down the generations but it should perhaps be borne in mind that 3/4 of my great parents originated in Staffordshire so maybe this was actually a Midlands custom Wendy -----Original Message----- From: roy.stockdill@btinternet.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 1:24 PM To: Yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] High Teas From: JJupar@aol.com > In a message dated 23/07/2012 11:06:15 GMT Daylight Time, > martin@mbriscoe.me.uk writes: > English High Tea would be a light snack of cakes and tea but it used to > be > quite common for Scottish hotels to do a High Tea between about 1700h > (perhaps earlier) and 1800h (or later) with Dinner starting some time > after > 1900h. > > The menu would have a range of simple cooked dishes like sausage and > chips, > fish and chips etc which were served with plenty of toast then followed > by > a > range of cakes and jam for the toast. Often the cooked dish would be > similar of the same as those on the main Dinner menu so it could be > cheaper > alternative to Dinner without all the pomp. > > There would obviously be a big pot of tea or coffee as well. > > > Martin Briscoe > Fort William > martin@mbriscoe.me.uk > > > -----Original Message----- > From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of JJupar@aol.com > Sent: 23 July 2012 10:45 > To: kessie3@online.de; YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] High Teas > > In a message dated 23/07/2012 09:30:32 GMT Daylight Time, > kessie3@online.de > writes: > When I asked my mother what a "High Tea" was she told me it's when you > stand up and eat your tea off the shelf...... (mining humour...all her > family were miners).Rita in Germany > > Hi, > > When you look at other peoples High Teas they seem to vary between > countys. However it seems to vary a bit. The working and middle class > families > have a big High Tea but the upper classes have a lighter afternoon tea > with sandwiches and littler cakes because they are going to have another > meal > later. > > I am not class conscious but and I didn't know how to explain it > otherwise. > > JUDY ELKINGTON > [North Derbyshire]> All this talk of High Teas with sausage and chips, cakes and sandwiches, etc, is making me wonder what sort of childhood and upbringing listers had. When I were nobbut a kid in'th' wartime we were lucky to get a piece of stale bread with pork dripping for 'us tea! What's more, because our parents couldn't afford to buy us shoes we were sent to school with more pieces of hard, stale bread strapped to 'us feet. Cue Monty Python's wonderful Five Yorkshiremen sketch.....! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It is South Wales rather than Yorkshire but I always recommend people read this book for a real eye opener on conditions within living memory Struggle or Starve Edited by Carol White and Sian Rhiannon Williams ISBN 9781870206259 It is a series of memories of women of their lives in South Wales between the two World Wars. One story always sticks in my memory. A girl who went with her father to visit an Uncle who lived some distance away. They could not afford the bus so walked, a milkman gave them a lift and she looked so starved that he gave her a bottle of milk - I think she wrote it was the first time she had milk but might have been the first time she had a whole bottle. The Uncle gave them the bus fare home but they agreed to walk to the next stop to save a penny or so. She had been given an apple and planned to take to share with her siblings but was still so hungry that she ate it - all of it including core and pips. When they got home her mother was ill in bed and the family had not eaten all day, the only food in the house was a bit of dripping in a jar so her brothers went down the street collecting empty jam jars to exchange at the shop for enough to buy half a loaf of bread. That was all they had for the whole family, a slice of bread with dripping on it. Her mother woke up and asked for some goose fat to rub on her chest - that was the "dripping" they had eaten. I suspect that parts of Yorkshire would be as bad. Incidentally, the book says that shoes (or more likely boots) were very important. Without them a child might not be able to get to school in Winter which would mean they might not get a square meal. So the Quakers had a man who went around repairing boots at schools and often a father would carry his child to school if they had no boots to wear to ensure they got a meal. Martin Briscoe Fort William martin@mbriscoe.me.uk -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of roy.stockdill@btinternet.com Sent: 23 July 2012 13:24 To: Yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] High Teas All this talk of High Teas with sausage and chips, cakes and sandwiches, etc, is making me wonder what sort of childhood and upbringing listers had. When I were nobbut a kid in'th' wartime we were lucky to get a piece of stale bread with pork dripping for 'us tea! What's more, because our parents couldn't afford to buy us shoes we were sent to school with more pieces of hard, stale bread strapped to 'us feet. Cue Monty Python's wonderful Five Yorkshiremen sketch.....! -- Roy Stockdill

From: JJupar@aol.com > In a message dated 23/07/2012 11:06:15 GMT Daylight Time, > martin@mbriscoe.me.uk writes: > English High Tea would be a light snack of cakes and tea but it used to be > quite common for Scottish hotels to do a High Tea between about 1700h > (perhaps earlier) and 1800h (or later) with Dinner starting some time after > 1900h. > > The menu would have a range of simple cooked dishes like sausage and chips, > fish and chips etc which were served with plenty of toast then followed by > a > range of cakes and jam for the toast. Often the cooked dish would be > similar of the same as those on the main Dinner menu so it could be cheaper > alternative to Dinner without all the pomp. > > There would obviously be a big pot of tea or coffee as well. > > > Martin Briscoe > Fort William > martin@mbriscoe.me.uk > > > -----Original Message----- > From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of JJupar@aol.com > Sent: 23 July 2012 10:45 > To: kessie3@online.de; YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] High Teas > > In a message dated 23/07/2012 09:30:32 GMT Daylight Time, > kessie3@online.de > writes: > When I asked my mother what a "High Tea" was she told me it's when you > stand up and eat your tea off the shelf...... (mining humour...all her > family were miners).Rita in Germany > > Hi, > > When you look at other peoples High Teas they seem to vary between > countys. However it seems to vary a bit. The working and middle class families > have a big High Tea but the upper classes have a lighter afternoon tea > with sandwiches and littler cakes because they are going to have another meal > later. > > I am not class conscious but and I didn't know how to explain it > otherwise. > > JUDY ELKINGTON > [North Derbyshire]> All this talk of High Teas with sausage and chips, cakes and sandwiches, etc, is making me wonder what sort of childhood and upbringing listers had. When I were nobbut a kid in'th' wartime we were lucky to get a piece of stale bread with pork dripping for 'us tea! What's more, because our parents couldn't afford to buy us shoes we were sent to school with more pieces of hard, stale bread strapped to 'us feet. Cue Monty Python's wonderful Five Yorkshiremen sketch.....! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Extracted from the 21 June 1927 Hull Daily Mail newspaper- "Golden Wedding Celebrated" Hull couple well known in Salvation Army circles. Although married fairly late in life, Mr & Mrs.Silas Epton, who lived at 17 Rose Street Hull, on Sunday celebrated the 50th anniversary of their marriage. Both come of good old stock, Mr.Epton's mother lived to be 91 and his grandmother to the age of 93, while Mrs.Epton is one of four ina family of 6 living to be over 70. It is in Salvation Army circles the old couple are best known for they were workers in the cause for some 40 yrs. Although ill health necessitated them ceasing active participation some time ago. Mr.Epton who hails from Alford Lincs was associated also for a considerable period with the Central Hull Conservative Assoc. He began life as a farm worker but for 24 years carried on a glass and china business in Hull ( There are 2 photographs with this article and I would be happy to send a copy of them to anyone interested). I have no personal interest the EPTON name Margaret Taylor ( Port Perry.Ont)

English High Tea would be a light snack of cakes and tea but it used to be quite common for Scottish hotels to do a High Tea between about 1700h (perhaps earlier) and 1800h (or later) with Dinner starting some time after 1900h. The menu would have a range of simple cooked dishes like sausage and chips, fish and chips etc which were served with plenty of toast then followed by a range of cakes and jam for the toast. Often the cooked dish would be similar of the same as those on the main Dinner menu so it could be cheaper alternative to Dinner without all the pomp. There would obviously be a big pot of tea or coffee as well. Martin Briscoe Fort William martin@mbriscoe.me.uk -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JJupar@aol.com Sent: 23 July 2012 10:45 To: kessie3@online.de; YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] High Teas In a message dated 23/07/2012 09:30:32 GMT Daylight Time, kessie3@online.de writes: When I asked my mother what a "High Tea" was she told me it's when you stand up and eat your tea off the shelf...... (mining humour...all her family were miners).Rita in Germany