From: "harold" <olddivi@talktalk.net> > i am trying to find out the marriage date of > > William Barker to Mary Helm about 1917 i have looked on BMD and found it may be Pontefract > seems strange as they were living in the Doncaster area so why go to > ponti also looking for his William Barker death date and burial info > > also cant find where Christopher Burdon is Buried he died 25 > December 1935 and is death cert is registered in Bawtry Tickill > district 2 Jan 1936 > he is my G/G/father > Thanks for reading this > regards Harold > Actually, there is only one marriage that fits and it was in the Pontefract registration district in the September quarter of 1919, vol 9c page 274. If I may point it out, you are making a mistake in assuming that because the marriage took place in Pontefract RD it must have been at Pontefract itself. Not necessarily so! If you click on the underlined blue link of Pontefract at FreeBMD it takes you to another screen from which by clicking on yet another link - the word "here" - you will get a long list of all the sub-districts, places and parishes that were in the Pontefract registration district. The marriage could have been in any of these places and some of them may lie midway between Pontefract and Doncaster. You would have to study a map closely to see where the possibilities could be. I would start by assuming the marriage was in the bride's parish (though this is by no means always the case) and then study the 1911 census and see if you can find a Mary Helm who might fit the bill, since her is the more uncommon of the two names. Failing that, you could always buy the certificate! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

My Great Great Grandparents had 16 children between 1861 -1885 [8 of each sex, no multiple births] and one of their sons had 17 children with one wife between 1912-1935 [9 girls [including one set of twins] and 8 boys]. Karen

Hello All i am trying to find out the marriage date of William Barker to Mary Helm about 1917 i have looked on BMD and found it may be Pontefract seems strange as they were living in the Doncaster area so why go to ponti also looking for his William Barker death date and burial info also cant find where Christopher Burdon is Buried he died 25 December 1935 and is death cert is registered in Bawtry Tickill district 2 Jan 1936 he is my G/G/father Thanks for reading this regards Harold

Have a copy of a book "A Village Childhood" by Gertrude M. Attwood, a personal recollection of Mytholmroyd & Hebden Bridge. If anyone is interested, contact off list.   Amy

Harold, Do not forget the death has to be registered in the area that it takes place and Pontefract registration district does fall across into Doncaster area. The only way to be sure is to check the certificate Rob -----Original Message----- From: harold <olddivi@talktalk.net> To: Yorksgen <Yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 7:33 pm Subject: [YORKSGEN] info Hello All i am trying to find out the marriage date of William Barker to Mary Helm about 1917 i have looked on BMD and found it may be Pontefract seems strange as they were living in the Doncaster area so why go to ponti also looking for his William Barker death date and burial info also cant find where Christopher Burdon is Buried he died 25 December 1935 and is death cert is registered in Bawtry Tickill district 2 Jan 1936 he is my G/G/father Thanks for reading this regards Harold ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cash I think, Margaret.   Lorna --- On Thu, 26/7/12, Margaret Cambridge <talktomarg@shaw.ca> wrote: From: Margaret Cambridge <talktomarg@shaw.ca> Subject: [YORKSGEN] family size To: yorksgen-l@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, 26, July, 2012, 11:31 AM Charged his wife for the eggs!!!   What did he take in payment? Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "D J Kay" <davlornk@xtra.co.nz> William Hamlet kept hens in the back garden and the story is that he charged his wife for the eggs! Lorna Kay (In sunny, but cold NZ) ...... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Chris,           There was I thinking the list was quiet because you were all working hard after all the "High Teas" and "Fish and Chips" (sorry the envy is showing!) but you are just trying to make us work.        All my families are quite small but Dave's gt. grandparents Samuel & Mary Ann Hamlet, in Lancashire (not far from the Yorks border Mary Ann was born in Yorks ) had 13 children, between 1872 & 1898.   There were 7 girls and 6 boys - 11 surviving to adulthood.   He was a House Painter in 1911 but had built some houses earlier, one of which he lived in.  The house had 3 bedrooms, no bathroom and an outside toilet, he didn't think bathrooms and toilets should be inside the house.   The house was there in 2003 and is probably still standing.         William Hamlet kept hens in the back garden and the story is that he charged his wife for the eggs!   Lorna Kay (In sunny, but cold NZ)                   

Hi, My grandparents Isaac MAPES & Mary Elizabeth (SAVAGE) married 1900 in Brimington, Chesterfield, Dby had 15 children - 10 girls and five boys plus one stillbirth, one son died age 3 months, another son died aged 16 yrs, the other 13 all lived to be good ages, one of whom is still alive - born in 1923. My Mum one of the 10 girls was born 1911 and died age 98 in 2009 - Mary Elizabeth SAVAGE was born in Blacker, Darton, Yks. Happy hunting Annette WATSON Lismore Australia

May I make a claim to the largest family? The sad aspect is , however, that none of the children survived beyond infancy or childhood. Nevertheless, Rebecca nee Hindle was the first wife of my gt grandfather, Benjamin Town. They married on July 15 1828 and then produced 30 children, all recorded in batches on a memorial stone in Keighley Parish churchyard. Rebecca died in 1851 after which Benjamin remarried and I am descended via his second wife. Rebecca was a twin so it seems probable that there were some twin pregnancies to have produced 30 children in 13 years. David born Keighley

The first Yorksgen I attended, we had a chap speaking about non conformist religions. It was an entertaining talk believe it or not, but the poignant thing I have remembered is that the infant morality rate (deaths per 1000 in the first 5 years of life) was 1:2 in the industrial areas. Victorian hymns such as 'when he cometh to make up his jewels' which I used to think were yuk were a real comfort to parents who had lost children. Chris ________________________________ From: "Davidandmaggie@aol.com" <Davidandmaggie@aol.com> To: christine.willott@btopenworld.com Cc: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, 26 July 2012, 9:00 Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] family size May I make a claim to the largest family? The sad aspect is , however, that none of the children survived beyond infancy or childhood. Nevertheless, Rebecca nee Hindle was the first wife of my gt grandfather, Benjamin Town. They married on July 15 1828 and then produced 30 children, all recorded in batches on a memorial stone in Keighley Parish churchyard. Rebecca died in 1851 after which Benjamin remarried and I am descended via his second wife. Rebecca was a twin so it seems probable that there were some twin pregnancies to have produced 30 children in 13 years.   David Y   In a message dated 25/07/2012 07:27:31 GMT Daylight Time, christine.willott@btopenworld.com writes: The list is rather quiet at present so on the way back from the Wakefield archives yesterday, we decided to suggest a competition. Family sizes in the past were large so who has got the family with the most children to any one set of parents? Step families are excluded. Then we thought who had the most girls in a family and who had the most boys? > >Chris >..... >Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; >www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; >www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

May I make a claim to the largest family? The sad aspect is , however, that none of the children survived beyond infancy or childhood. Nevertheless, Rebecca nee Hindle was the first wife of my gt grandfather, Benjamin Town. They married on July 15 1828 and then produced 30 children, all recorded in batches on a memorial stone in Keighley Parish churchyard. Rebecca died in 1851 after which Benjamin remarried and I am descended via his second wife. Rebecca was a twin so it seems probable that there were some twin pregnancies to have produced 30 children in 13 years. David Y In a message dated 25/07/2012 07:27:31 GMT Daylight Time, christine.willott@btopenworld.com writes: The list is rather quiet at present so on the way back from the Wakefield archives yesterday, we decided to suggest a competition. Family sizes in the past were large so who has got the family with the most children to any one set of parents? Step families are excluded. Then we thought who had the most girls in a family and who had the most boys? Chris ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Christine and all, I have a family (who were not from Yorkshire) where there were 16 children born to one set of parents, Robert Wise and his wife Mary Ann Lucas, here in Tasmania. An even balance of 8 girls and 8 boys. But not quite satisfied with his efforts at populating Tassie Robert then married again, to Elizabeth Barratt, after he was widowed and they produced a further 12 children. With the exception of two children, who I don't have death dates for, the other 26 children all survived to adulthood. Robert was born in 1818 and his youngest child was born in 1901 so Robert was 26 when his eldest child was born and 83 years old when his last child was born. I have yet to discover an older new father ;-) Due to the wide spread of ages of the children, Robert has 5xgreat grandchildren alive today as well as grandchildren although not on the same lines of course. Bye Karlena from a chilly Tasmania, Australia. -----Original Message----- From: CHRISTINE WILLOTT Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:24 PM To: YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] family size The list is rather quiet at present so on the way back from the Wakefield archives yesterday, we decided to suggest a competition. Family sizes in the past were large so who has got the family with the most children to any one set of parents? Step families are excluded. Then we thought who had the most girls in a family and who had the most boys? Chris ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If that were the case all families would be huge No electricity for days? No electricity period ! Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 25/07/2012 21:15, Audrey Bowne wrote: > could family size attribute to > no contraception > long cold winters > no electricity for days

what was electricity?  Chris ________________________________ From: Audrey Bowne <acbowne1@yahoo.com> To: "yorksgen-l@rootsweb.com" <yorksgen-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2012, 21:15 Subject: [YORKSGEN] family size could family size attribute to no contraception long cold winters no electricity for days ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi A relative of mine - Mary Jane Raines, was born in Burton Pidsea in 1808. She married Isaac Dunn at the age of 16 in 1824 and produced 18 children between 1825 and 1852. 7 Boys and 11 girls. They all survived to adulthood and Mary Jane lived until 1881. I don't know if it was something genetic though because Mary Jane's mother had produced 14 children although a couple of them died in infancy. Also, Mary Jane's youngest child Susanna Dunn produced 16 children of her own - tragically losing 8 in the first year of life. Closer to home, my grandmother May Seeley born in 1896 was one of 11 children - five boys and six girls - and all the girls were named after flowers; Violet, Daisy, Lily, Ivy, Rose and May. Deb in Mirfield WRY

Hi Roy I've only just picked this up and haven't been able to give it any significant attention yet, but after a quick peek at Ancestry's West Yorkshire PRs and census collections I think I might well have a connection on the Craven line. William Henry Craven's father was Joshua Stansfield Craven, and (shock horror!) it appears from the 1891 census that he married a Londoner. Never mind - 1861 shows him as son of another Joshua, born in Wortley (Leeds) about 1829. This Joshua appears in a tree shared with me by a fellow researcher (and not fully verified by me) as son of another Joshua, who descends from Abraham Craven and Elizabeth STANSFIELD, and then two further Abrahams. The furthest back, who was buried in Calverley in 1770, was my 6x great grandfather. He married Ann CARR (buried 1784) in 1729 - and if you can find out any more about either of their origins you're cleverer than I am. But I think this makes me something like a 7th cousin to your subject. As far as I can determine, Abraham, the possible ancestor of your subject, was the fourth child of Abraham Craven and Ann Carr, baptised 19 Feb 1736/37; my ancestor was Benjamin, their 9th and youngest child, baptised 30 Sep 1750. Benjamin, however, has his own rather more modest claim to fame: he was Parish Clerk in Calverley for 30 years (from his burial entry), but at some stage Sexton as well; the position of Sexton passed to his son James, who held it for 40 years, and then James's son Benjamin, who by 1876 had held it for another 25 - see Cudworth's "Round About Bradford" p.460. There's an outline of my tree at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~arthurk/ - use the Name Index or look at the Bartle chart (lower part) to find the Craven connection. I can supply fuller information if you wish, and I look forward to seeing the results of your endeavours. Arthur On 23/07/2012 20:27, roy.stockdill@btinternet.com wrote: > I wonder if any listers have connections to the above names from Leeds? I am currently > researching my next "Famous family histories" blog for Findmypast and I am sure it won't > take you lot long to work out who the subject is. > > WILLIAM HENRY CRAVEN married SARAH ANN MAY at Bramley RD in the March quarter > of 1905. > > PERCY NOBLE married FANNY W BLACKBURN at Leeds RD in the June quarter of 1911. > > They were the grandparents of a famous TV personality, two of their children married at > Leeds North RD in the Dec quarter of 1937 and their son is.........????? > > Interested to hear from anyone who thinks they may be related. > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ > >

Charged his wife for the eggs!!! What did he take in payment? Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "D J Kay" <davlornk@xtra.co.nz> William Hamlet kept hens in the back garden and the story is that he charged his wife for the eggs! Lorna Kay (In sunny, but cold NZ)

Aaron Hood married Frances WOOLL in 1882 at the Beverley Register Office, she being just 18 at the time.  By 1908, this couple had 19 children, 11 boys and 8 girls .  I have been told there were a couple more who may have died between censuses.   Janet From: CHRISTINE WILLOTT <christine.willott@btopenworld.com> To: "YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com" <YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:24:21 AM Subject: [YORKSGEN] family size The list is rather quiet at present so on the way back from the Wakefield archives yesterday, we decided to suggest a competition. Family sizes in the past were large so who has got the family with the most children to any one set of parents? Step families are excluded. Then we thought who had the most girls in a family and who had the most boys? Chris ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hiya Christine & list, bit extra info as someone may have one of the following in their tree, you got to be bit cheeky in our hobby!! John BAGGAN b.1822 - d.1869 Pontefract but married 1844 Sheffield where his parents & siblings moved to live. Harriet THOMPSON b 1822 Normanby, Lincoln d.1887 Pontefract. All daughters born in Pontefract & married there (except Eliza who married at St Lawrence in York. I believe the following SYKES family had 14 children, Maureen my 3x gr grandparents John BAGGAN & Hariet (nee THOMPSON) had 7 daughters: Mary Elizabeth - married William ECCLESTON 1874 Jane -married Frederick WOFFENDEN 1866 Hannah - married William SYKES 1868 Emma only one not to marry Sarah Ann - married George Temple PICKUP 1874 Eliza - married John SCHOLES 1879 Harriet - married Harry PONSONBY 1879 (my 2x gr/parents) Maureen x -----Original Message----- From: CHRISTINE WILLOTT <christine.willott@btopenworld.com> The list is rather quiet at present so on the way back from the Wakefield archives yesterday, we decided to suggest a competition. Family sizes in the past were large so who has got the family with the most children to any one set of parents? Step families are excluded. Then we thought who had the most girls in a family and who had the most boys? Chris ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

could family size attribute to no contraception long cold winters no electricity for days