Hi Maureen I did think they were scratching around for good subjects the last two series but all these look like they will be interesting Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30/07/2012 12:06, Maureenpontefhs wrote: > http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/news/who-do-you-think-you-are-2012-new-series-celebrities-revealed?utm_source=Responsys&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=NLT_WDYT_270712_Newsletter > > > some interesting ones this year: > > > Alex KINGSTON ( actress ) > Annie LENNOX ( singer ) > Gregg WALLACE ( Master Chef ) > Hugh DENNIS ( actor, comedian ) > William ROACHE ( Coronation Street ) > Celia IMRIE ( comic actress ) > Patrick STEWART ( actor ) > John BISHOP ( comedian ) > John BARNES ( ex-footballer ) > Samantha WOMACK ( actress )

Yes please Gillian Cattell On 30 Jul 2012, at 08:30, CHRISTINE WILLOTT <christine.willott@btopenworld.com> wrote: > It is just possible that we may be able to combine the Yorksgen holiday with the big York family history fair at the racecourse. Ifthis is possible - would you consider coming? The cost per night is slightly more than the university charge, but there appear to be no hidden extras. > > At this stage, this e-mail is just to gauge interest. > > Chris > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You can count me in if that could be arranged!! Colin ________________________________________ From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of CHRISTINE WILLOTT [christine.willott@btopenworld.com] Sent: 30 July 2012 09:30 To: YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] yorksgen holiday 2013 It is just possible that we may be able to combine the Yorksgen holiday with the big York family history fair at the racecourse. Ifthis is possible - would you consider coming? The cost per night is slightly more than the university charge, but there appear to be no hidden extras. At this stage, this e-mail is just to gauge interest. Chris ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It sounds good, definitely count me for the two weeks. Having just spent two weeks at Yorksgen2012 I'm looking forward to Yorksgen 2013 already. Sue

Hi Bill, you can search for the Hearth Tax returns for Beverley from the separate E179 catalogue on TNA website: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/e179/ Click on the large Search E179 button; Type Beverley in the Place search box and click the Lookup button; Select the borough hit (as the Hearth Tax was neither manorial nor ecclesiastical in nature); In the Tax box, select the 'Search by Years or Tax type', then click the Specify button, choose Hearth Tax from the drop-down list; In the Document Type, select the 'Documents containing names of individuals'; Now click 'Search the Database at the bottom of the form; Here you will see that they hold Hearth Tax returns for Beverley borough from 1664 to 1675 Now click on the first hit, and it will describe the record. It shows that there are 2 'rots', short for rotulets), you can get the definition of rot and membrane (the m. you asked about) by clicking on the ? Help button near the top right of the page, then clicking on the Glossary tab. By looking at the description of that first hit you will see exactly where the record for Beverley is located on the roll, it is at rot 1d. The rolls, and the membranes that make up the roll are clearly marked (but do remember the check the reverse side if you cannot find what you are looking for), you will quickly get the hang of it. A quick tip: take a transcribed Hearth Tax return with you, and order up its reference too. That way you can quickly learn the handwriting at the time and help you transcribe the Hearth Tax you are interested in. Hope this helps, Colin ________________________________________ From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill Webster [wbwebster@internode.on.net] Sent: 30 July 2012 08:26 To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] Beverley - Hearth Tax - locations Could I request some help, please, from anyone more familiar with Beverley and the Hearth Tax. I have been looking at http://www.hearthtax.org.uk/communities/eastriding/index.html. Can I confirm the online records are from 1672? Was this the only return or will there be more years to come? And what do the Mem Refs relate to, as in m.1, m.1d, m.2, etc.? The family name that I am researching appears in a number of Constaularies/Wards. If I can, it may prove useful to identify where each of these were. They obviously relate to quite small areas within the town. I think I can relate these to present places and roads but I would welcome correction. Saturday Market ward would be around the market, sort of north/centre. Toll Gavel ward would be south/centre. Within North Bar ward would be north of the Saturday Market. Newbegin and Lairgate ward is south and west of the market? Norwood, Hengate and Walkergate is east and north of the market? Beckside and Barleyholme ward is south and east, towards Hull? Thanks for any clarification. Bill ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It is just possible that we may be able to combine the Yorksgen holiday with the big York family history fair at the racecourse. Ifthis is possible - would you consider coming? The cost per night is slightly more than the university charge, but there appear to be no hidden extras. At this stage, this e-mail is just to gauge interest. Chris

http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/news/who-do-you-think-you-are-2012-new-series-celebrities-revealed?utm_source=Responsys&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=NLT_WDYT_270712_Newsletter some interesting ones this year: Alex KINGSTON ( actress ) Annie LENNOX ( singer ) Gregg WALLACE ( Master Chef ) Hugh DENNIS ( actor, comedian ) William ROACHE ( Coronation Street ) Celia IMRIE ( comic actress ) Patrick STEWART ( actor ) John BISHOP ( comedian ) John BARNES ( ex-footballer ) Samantha WOMACK ( actress )

Hi Margaret, I wonder if the roots of this statement lie in  the Clarendon code of the 1660s? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_of_Uniformity_1662 Maybe he is saying he agrees with what the authorities have done?? Chris ________________________________ From: Margaret O'Shea <m.oshea1@ntlworld.com> To: JJupar@aol.com Cc: YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 29 July 2012, 13:41 Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Religious statement in a will Hello Judy Thanks for the response.  I realise that unless someone was a Quaker all these old wills start out with sometimes as much as half an A3 page talking about their soul, God and where they want to be buried etc - I have quite a lot as well.  The difference with this one was the specific reference to the Church of England (rather than just the Church) being the best and purest part of the Catholick (meaning universal I suppose) Church. This was the first time I had come across this - obviously separating himself away from the Catholic Church and other denominations. Kind regards Margaret (in Oxford) -----Original Message----- From: JJupar@aol.com [mailto:JJupar@aol.com] Sent: 29 July 2012 10:51 To: m.oshea1@ntlworld.com; YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Religious statement in a will In a message dated 29/07/2012 09:15:35 GMT  Daylight Time, m.oshea1@ntlworld.com writes: Since returning from Yorksgen  and some successful trips to the Borthwick I am trying to further my direct  paternal line by transcribing the wills of various family members in the late  1600s and early 1700s in an attempt to unravel the relationships. Unusually I  have one will that specifically refers to the Church of England by saying - I  dye a sound and zealous Member of the Church of England, the best and purest  part of the Catholick Church. The will was written in 1724 - has anyone else  come across this type of direct statement? Margaret  O'Shea Oxford Hi Margaret, Most wills claim a religious  start in this manner.    I have several dozen wills such as:-  Will of Richard Elkinton (1553-1624) of Mollington revised In the  name of god Amen The Tenth daye of December in the yeare of o god 1621 I  Richard Elkinton of Mollington in the countye of Oxfod husbandman being sick  in body but in pfect memory thanks be given to Almightie god doe Ordayne &  make this my laste will & Testament in manner and forme followeing:  ffirste I bequeathe my soule unto almightie god my Maker and I doe  verily truste my soule shalbe saved by the death and Passion of Christe Jesus my Redeemer, And my body after this  lyfe to be buryed in the Churchyarde  in Mollington nere to the grave of Alice Elkintone my mother All will  start in this manner for several centuries.  The wording may be  slightly different but they all place their soulsd in the hands of God first and  then later in the will there is often a legacy to a church or village, JUDY ELKINGTON [North  Derbyshire] www.elkingtonfamily.com Elkington@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html  ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Judy Thanks for the response. I realise that unless someone was a Quaker all these old wills start out with sometimes as much as half an A3 page talking about their soul, God and where they want to be buried etc - I have quite a lot as well. The difference with this one was the specific reference to the Church of England (rather than just the Church) being the best and purest part of the Catholick (meaning universal I suppose) Church. This was the first time I had come across this - obviously separating himself away from the Catholic Church and other denominations. Kind regards Margaret (in Oxford) -----Original Message----- From: JJupar@aol.com [mailto:JJupar@aol.com] Sent: 29 July 2012 10:51 To: m.oshea1@ntlworld.com; YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Religious statement in a will In a message dated 29/07/2012 09:15:35 GMT Daylight Time, m.oshea1@ntlworld.com writes: Since returning from Yorksgen and some successful trips to the Borthwick I am trying to further my direct paternal line by transcribing the wills of various family members in the late 1600s and early 1700s in an attempt to unravel the relationships. Unusually I have one will that specifically refers to the Church of England by saying - I dye a sound and zealous Member of the Church of England, the best and purest part of the Catholick Church. The will was written in 1724 - has anyone else come across this type of direct statement? Margaret O'Shea Oxford Hi Margaret, Most wills claim a religious start in this manner. I have several dozen wills such as:- Will of Richard Elkinton (1553-1624) of Mollington revised In the name of god Amen The Tenth daye of December in the yeare of o god 1621 I Richard Elkinton of Mollington in the countye of Oxfod husbandman being sick in body but in pfect memory thanks be given to Almightie god doe Ordayne & make this my laste will & Testament in manner and forme followeing: ffirste I bequeathe my soule unto almightie god my Maker and I doe verily truste my soule shalbe saved by the death and Passion of Christe Jesus my Redeemer, And my body after this lyfe to be buryed in the Churchyarde in Mollington nere to the grave of Alice Elkintone my mother All will start in this manner for several centuries. The wording may be slightly different but they all place their soulsd in the hands of God first and then later in the will there is often a legacy to a church or village, JUDY ELKINGTON [North Derbyshire] www.elkingtonfamily.com Elkington@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Hi It appears as if they are arranged in order of use. The first two (on the right) have spades to prepare and level the ground, the next fourin the foreground are the layers/ setters who set the stones into place. The tools they carry are sort of a multi purpose tool which they used to tap/set the stones in much the same way that pavers today use a mallet and level . The two with the tampers came next to level the sets across the road and the sweeper at the back was not to clean up as most would think but rather to sweep the fine sand and rock dust mix between the stones so as to fix them into place and prevent movement. The tools that look like sub-machineguns are the multi tools, they are shaped rather like the police batons with an L shaped handle part way down the shaft. These could be used to pull and knock the stones into place. They are also long enough to help level a set of the stones so that they are roughly set at the same height. regards John Waite On 29/07/2012 1:29 AM, Bob Smith wrote: > Hi > > Spotted this photograph showing a gang of labourers laying paving blocks in > the 1930s > > Can anyone identify what the tools are that are being held like sub-machine > guns? > > regards > > > > Bob Smith >

Hi John Thanks for the reply. In retrospect it was pretty obvious that they were to do with the placement of the blocks, as it is pretty obvious what everything else is for! I was delighted when I found the photograph the photographer has captured in an imaginative way the road building process as it was. regards Bob Smith -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Waite Sent: 29 July 2012 00:41 To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Road building tools Hi It appears as if they are arranged in order of use. The first two (on the right) have spades to prepare and level the ground, the next fourin the foreground are the layers/ setters who set the stones into place. The tools they carry are sort of a multi purpose tool which they used to tap/set the stones in much the same way that pavers today use a mallet and level . The two with the tampers came next to level the sets across the road and the sweeper at the back was not to clean up as most would think but rather to sweep the fine sand and rock dust mix between the stones so as to fix them into place and prevent movement. The tools that look like sub-machineguns are the multi tools, they are shaped rather like the police batons with an L shaped handle part way down the shaft. These could be used to pull and knock the stones into place. They are also long enough to help level a set of the stones so that they are roughly set at the same height. regards John Waite On 29/07/2012 1:29 AM, Bob Smith wrote: > Hi > > Spotted this photograph showing a gang of labourers laying paving > blocks in the 1930s > > Can anyone identify what the tools are that are being held like > sub-machine guns? > > regards > > > > Bob Smith > ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Since returning from Yorksgen and some successful trips to the Borthwick I am trying to further my direct paternal line by transcribing the wills of various family members in the late 1600s and early 1700s in an attempt to unravel the relationships. Unusually I have one will that specifically refers to the Church of England by saying - I dye a sound and zealous Member of the Church of England, the best and purest part of the Catholick Church. The will was written in 1724 - has anyone else come across this type of direct statement? Margaret O'Shea Oxford

In a message dated 29/07/2012 09:15:35 GMT Daylight Time, m.oshea1@ntlworld.com writes: Since returning from Yorksgen and some successful trips to the Borthwick I am trying to further my direct paternal line by transcribing the wills of various family members in the late 1600s and early 1700s in an attempt to unravel the relationships. Unusually I have one will that specifically refers to the Church of England by saying - I dye a sound and zealous Member of the Church of England, the best and purest part of the Catholick Church. The will was written in 1724 - has anyone else come across this type of direct statement? Margaret O'Shea Oxford Hi Margaret, Most wills claim a religious start in this manner. I have several dozen wills such as:- Will of Richard Elkinton (1553-1624) of Mollington revised In the name of god Amen The Tenth daye of December in the yeare of o god 1621 I Richard Elkinton of Mollington in the countye of Oxfod husbandman being sick in body but in pfect memory thanks be given to Almightie god doe Ordayne & make this my laste will & Testament in manner and forme followeing: ffirste I bequeathe my soule unto almightie god my Maker and I doe verily truste my soule shalbe saved by the death and Passion of Christe Jesus my Redeemer, And my body after this lyfe to be buryed in the Churchyarde in Mollington nere to the grave of Alice Elkintone my mother All will start in this manner for several centuries. The wording may be slightly different but they all place their soulsd in the hands of God first and then later in the will there is often a legacy to a church or village, JUDY ELKINGTON [North Derbyshire] www.elkingtonfamily.com Elkington@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Hi Thanks for the reply. The photograph seems to have been set up in the order that the work was done. The first two men carry a pick and a shovel, so I assume they are doing pretty basic preparation work. The next 4 have the item that I can't identify, I can't imagine that they would need 4 men to measure things. The last three are the tampers, and the man with the broom to clean up regards Bob Smith From: JJupar@aol.com [mailto:JJupar@aol.com] Sent: 28 July 2012 19:10 To: bobonline@ntlworld.com; YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Road building tools In a message dated 28/07/2012 16:30:26 GMT Daylight Time, bobonline@ntlworld.com writes: Hi Spotted this photograph showing a gang of labourers laying paving blocks in the 1930s Can anyone identify what the tools are that are being held like sub-machine guns? regards Bob Smith http://www.flickr.com/photos/rpsmithbarney/4323589001/in/photostream/ Hi, I am almost sure that they are laying stone cobbles on a dirt road. I think the two tools of the first to men are measuring them and the third and fourth men have tampers-down tools, whilst the rest are carrying the Tools we know today. The only man I do not think I can identify is the third from the right. Could he be checking how much they were using of possibly be in charge of them. I hope this helpful to you. JUDY ELKINGTON [North Derbyshire] www.elkingtonfamily.com <http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/> Elkington@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Hi Spotted this photograph showing a gang of labourers laying paving blocks in the 1930s Can anyone identify what the tools are that are being held like sub-machine guns? regards Bob Smith http://www.flickr.com/photos/rpsmithbarney/4323589001/in/photostream/

[If Australia is 31-and-a-half times bigger than the UK in land mass terms but the UK has three times the population, then the UK is lord-knows-how-many times bigger (someone do the maths for me) in one sense. Of course, the figure will be slightly skewed by the number of Australians living over here in places liked Earls Court, London, and working as barmen and barmaids!] I read somewhere recently that England is the most densely populated country in Europe. That obviously doesn't mean the UK, as Scotland, Wales, N. Ireland would have lesser densities. That only refers to England per se. Has anyone else heard that? Diane

Here it is - but now see how many more other families have managed to produce. Amazing! Suzanne Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:42:05 +0100 From: christine.willott@btopenworld.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] family size To: suzannepaget@hotmail.com Send it to the list and see. Chris From: suzanne paget <suzannepaget@hotmail.com> To: christine.willott@btopenworld.com Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2012, 9:14 Subject: RE: [YORKSGEN] family size Interesting question Chris.Would twelve children be considered a high number (1835-1853)?There were eight boys and four girls.Suzanne. > Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:24:21 +0100 > From: christine.willott@btopenworld.com > To: YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [YORKSGEN] family size > > The list is rather quiet at present so on the way back from the Wakefield archives yesterday, we decided to suggest a competition. Family sizes in the past were large so who has got the family with the most children to any one set of parents? Step families are excluded. Then we thought who had the most girls in a family and who had the most boys? > > Chris > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 28/07/2012 16:30:26 GMT Daylight Time, bobonline@ntlworld.com writes: Hi Spotted this photograph showing a gang of labourers laying paving blocks in the 1930s Can anyone identify what the tools are that are being held like sub-machine guns? regards Bob Smith _http://www.flickr.com/photos/rpsmithbarney/4323589001/in/photostream/_ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rpsmithbarney/4323589001/in/photostream/) Hi, I am almost sure that they are laying stone cobbles on a dirt road. I think the two tools of the first to men are measuring them and the third and fourth men have tampers-down tools, whilst the rest are carrying the Tools we know today. The only man I do not think I can identify is the third from the right. Could he be checking how much they were using of possibly be in charge of them. I hope this helpful to you. JUDY ELKINGTON [North Derbyshire] _www.elkingtonfamily.com_ (http://www.elkingtonfamily.com/) Elkington@rootsweb.com _www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html_ (http://www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html)

These Marriages are on Ancestry, West Yorkshire Records. William Barker aged 46 widower & Mary Helm (nee Burdon?) aged 39 widow were married at St Andrews Church Ferry Fryston. They both list their abode as New Fryston, so they did not live in Doncaster or anywhere near, William is a Miner and he was possibly working at Fryston Colliery. Sharon -------------------------------------------------- From: "harold" <olddivi@talktalk.net> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 8:52 PM To: <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com>; <Yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] info > Hello Roy > many thanks for all the info > > I was in a dilemma as she lived south of Doncaster so it was a surprise > they > were married at Ponti they had a child in 1917 > so why go to Ponti to get married maybe they were living over the brush > and > did not want locals to know that > > William was the second husband and after him was another when she was i > think 77 > liked wedding cake i guess > I recall that event caused a few raised words when she told my mum she was > getting married at that age > and buy a cert well thats what i will do now i know it is her > as you will know we have short arms and deep pockets in Donny > > Edwin Helm was a farmer and inn keeper he died in N.Yorkshire and so they > were pretty well off we were told as kids but on the death of Edwin > she moved to Sunny Donny and as to why > thats another question we will never get a answer to > > when she died she had willed her body to research i believe in Newcastle > so > not burial cert > Many thanks for your help > regards Harold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> > To: <Yorksgen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 6:54 PM > Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] info > > >> From: "harold" <olddivi@talktalk.net> >> >>> i am trying to find out the marriage date of >>> >>> William Barker to Mary Helm about 1917 i have looked on BMD and found it >>> may be Pontefract >>> seems strange as they were living in the Doncaster area so why go to >>> ponti also looking for his William Barker death date and burial info >>> >>> also cant find where Christopher Burdon is Buried he died 25 >>> December 1935 and is death cert is registered in Bawtry Tickill >>> district 2 Jan 1936 >>> he is my G/G/father >>> Thanks for reading this >>> regards Harold > >> >> Actually, there is only one marriage that fits and it was in the >> Pontefract registration district in >> the September quarter of 1919, vol 9c page 274. >> >> If I may point it out, you are making a mistake in assuming that because >> the marriage took >> place in Pontefract RD it must have been at Pontefract itself. Not >> necessarily so! >> >> If you click on the underlined blue link of Pontefract at FreeBMD it >> takes >> you to another >> screen from which by clicking on yet another link - the word "here" - you >> will get a long list of >> all the sub-districts, places and parishes that were in the Pontefract >> registration district. The >> marriage could have been in any of these places and some of them may lie >> midway between >> Pontefract and Doncaster. You would have to study a map closely to see >> where the >> possibilities could be. I would start by assuming the marriage was in the >> bride's parish >> (though this is by no means always the case) and then study the 1911 >> census and see if you >> can find a Mary Helm who might fit the bill, since her is the more >> uncommon of the two >> names. >> >> Failing that, you could always buy the certificate! >> >> -- >> Roy Stockdill >> Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer >> Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ >> >> "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, >> and that is not being talked about." >> OSCAR WILDE >> >> >> >> >> ..... >> Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; >> www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; >> www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Roy many thanks for all the info I was in a dilemma as she lived south of Doncaster so it was a surprise they were married at Ponti they had a child in 1917 so why go to Ponti to get married maybe they were living over the brush and did not want locals to know that William was the second husband and after him was another when she was i think 77 liked wedding cake i guess I recall that event caused a few raised words when she told my mum she was getting married at that age and buy a cert well thats what i will do now i know it is her as you will know we have short arms and deep pockets in Donny Edwin Helm was a farmer and inn keeper he died in N.Yorkshire and so they were pretty well off we were told as kids but on the death of Edwin she moved to Sunny Donny and as to why thats another question we will never get a answer to when she died she had willed her body to research i believe in Newcastle so not burial cert Many thanks for your help regards Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: <Yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] info > From: "harold" <olddivi@talktalk.net> > >> i am trying to find out the marriage date of >> >> William Barker to Mary Helm about 1917 i have looked on BMD and found it >> may be Pontefract >> seems strange as they were living in the Doncaster area so why go to >> ponti also looking for his William Barker death date and burial info >> >> also cant find where Christopher Burdon is Buried he died 25 >> December 1935 and is death cert is registered in Bawtry Tickill >> district 2 Jan 1936 >> he is my G/G/father >> Thanks for reading this >> regards Harold > > > Actually, there is only one marriage that fits and it was in the > Pontefract registration district in > the September quarter of 1919, vol 9c page 274. > > If I may point it out, you are making a mistake in assuming that because > the marriage took > place in Pontefract RD it must have been at Pontefract itself. Not > necessarily so! > > If you click on the underlined blue link of Pontefract at FreeBMD it takes > you to another > screen from which by clicking on yet another link - the word "here" - you > will get a long list of > all the sub-districts, places and parishes that were in the Pontefract > registration district. The > marriage could have been in any of these places and some of them may lie > midway between > Pontefract and Doncaster. You would have to study a map closely to see > where the > possibilities could be. I would start by assuming the marriage was in the > bride's parish > (though this is by no means always the case) and then study the 1911 > census and see if you > can find a Mary Helm who might fit the bill, since her is the more > uncommon of the two > names. > > Failing that, you could always buy the certificate! > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message