Hi, I am currently transcribing my way through the Lease Registers of the Archbishops of York and I have a few queries which the list might be able to throw some light on. 1. In the list of leases for a particular property the lease states 'for 11 years' but almost all the renewals (over a two hundred year period) are dated 5 years later, rather than 11 years later. Why is this? 2. Some of the properties that the Archbishop acquired from other parties (the Crown for example) were already encumbered with leases for a term of years, so the marginal note says that the only income the AB can expect from these properties until the lease expires is the 'Reserved Rent'. What is the definition here of 'Reserved Rent'? 3. Some rents were payable on the usual Lady Day and/or Michaelmas, but others were payable on Plow-day. Anyone know when 'Plow-day' was? Thanks Colin

Hi, I am currently transcribing my way through the Lease Registers of the Archbishops of York and I have a few queries which the list might be able to throw some light on. 1. In the list of leases for a particular property the lease states 'for 11 years' but almost all the renewals (over a two hundred year period) are dated 5 years later, rather than 11 years later. Why is this? 2. Some of the properties that the Archbishop acquired from other parties (the Crown for example) were already encumbered with leases for a term of years, so the marginal note says that the only income the AB can expect from these properties until the lease expires is the 'Reserved Rent'. What is the definition here of 'Reserved Rent'? 3. Some rents were payable on the usual Lady Day and/or Michaelmas, but others were payable on Plow-day. Anyone know when 'Plow-day' was? Thanks Colin

Hi Does anyone out there have a John Fisher and Elizabeth Steel in their Family Tree? I'm trying to eliminate all the possibilities which include a John Fisher. If someone out there does have info about this couple I'd love to hear from them, particularly with regard to John Fisher and his parents. Thanks Marcelle

Thank you Margaret I just got back from a morning at the local crematorium where we are indexing burial records. Had to send a copy of your message to each member of the team 'cos we are all similarly addicted. Mabel in NZ -----Original Message----- From: Margaret O'Shea Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 6:47 AM To: YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] A Geneaholic's Story At Yorksgen I mentioned the Geneaholic’s Story and found that some people didn’t seem to have come across it. The link is below – and having reread it I realise that I am beyond hope☺ http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/t/a/u/Donna-Tauber-IN/FILE/0028page.html Margaret O’Shea Oxford

Question is!! What do YOU think you are? Cheers Mabel in NZ -----Original Message----- Hi Lot of stuff recently about Yorkshire Gold Medals, but what is a Yorkshireman? I was born in St James Hospital LEEDS Dad's side back to 1812 West Riding folk Mother born Keswick with roots back to Scotland then Ireland. Me brought up in Lancashire from age 7 to 21 lived in Hampshire last 40 years What am I regards Bob Smith

Saddened to hear the loss of Chris Watts who many will know from his work with brother Michael on Merchant Seamen and BMD at sea etc. His knowledge will liveon via his books and his podcasts on The National Archives website. The Google maps Lecture (although poor sound quality in places) in particular highlights Chris' Yorkshire ancestry. Many of the others include fascinating detailed information learnt during many years at TNA. Well worth a listen if you haven't already. Jackie Jackie Depelle www.yorksgroup.org.uk www.yourfairladies.co.uk

Hi Lot of stuff recently about Yorkshire Gold Medals, but what is a Yorkshireman? I was born in St James Hospital LEEDS Dad's side back to 1812 West Riding folk Mother born Keswick with roots back to Scotland then Ireland. Me brought up in Lancashire from age 7 to 21 lived in Hampshire last 40 years What am I regards Bob Smith

A bit of a muck up! Margaret Taylor ( Port Perry.Ont) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Smith" <bobonline@ntlworld.com> To: <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 6:29 PM Subject: [YORKSGEN] What is a Yorkshireman > Hi > > Lot of stuff recently about Yorkshire Gold Medals, but what is a > Yorkshireman? > > I was born in St James Hospital LEEDS Dad's side back to 1812 West Riding > folk Mother born Keswick with roots back to Scotland then Ireland. > > Me brought up in Lancashire from age 7 to 21 lived in Hampshire last 40 > years > > > > What am I > > > > regards > > > > Bob Smith > > > > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5187 - Release Date: 08/08/12 >

At Yorksgen I mentioned the Geneaholic’s Story and found that some people didn’t seem to have come across it. The link is below – and having reread it I realise that I am beyond hope☺ http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/t/a/u/Donna-Tauber-IN/FILE/0028page.html Margaret O’Shea Oxford

You can see a map here http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/demos/medal-map/ Martin Briscoe Fort William martin@mbriscoe.me.uk -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Colin B. Withers Sent: 08 August 2012 15:34 To: 'Jeff'; yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] YORKSGEN Digest, Vol 7, Issue 364 Just to put things in context, has anyone had a go at putting our 48+ medals into a 2012 Olympics County Medal Table? I wonder where Lancashire comes for example? Colin

Just to put things in context, has anyone had a go at putting our 48+ medals into a 2012 Olympics County Medal Table? I wonder where Lancashire comes for example? Colin -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 2:15 PM To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] YORKSGEN Digest, Vol 7, Issue 364 Hi Roy, In your enthusiasm, I think you should have put country. Yorkshire is already a county. Regards. ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am sure that my late (100% Yorkshire) father would have loved the success that Yorkshire is showing in the current Olympics especially as in his youth he was very athletic. Just before his 15th birthday he managed to achieve several wins in the North Yorkshire Schools Athletic Association Championship Sports Day on 12 July 1928, apparently leading to a talent scout approaching him with a suggestion of turning professional (I have copies of the certificates). He didn't go down this route but joined the army the following year. On the subject of Yorkshire pride - I mentioned to my husband this morning that there were many posts on the mailing list about Olympic glory for Yorkshire, to which he replied that perhaps it should be renamed Yorkshire Olympics. I said that this title reminded me of Yorkshire Airways (although totally different subject) - a spoof TV episode some years ago by the comedy duo Hale and Pace. Having revisited the episode on YouTube this morning I thought perhaps some list members who haven't seen it may like to view it via the following link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm6VC5gdaFA However, I am not sure whether my Dad would have found is quite so funny as me? Margaret O'Shea Oxford -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of yorksgen-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 08 August 2012 08:01 To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: YORKSGEN Digest, Vol 7, Issue 364 Today's Topics: 1. More Olympic glory for Yorkshire! (roy.stockdill@btinternet.com) 2. Re: More Olympic glory for Yorkshire! (Martin Briscoe) 3. Re: More Olympic glory for Yorkshire! (Susan Harrison) 4. Re: More Olympic glory for Yorkshire! (Patsy Crotty) 5. Buxtons of Selby lost e-mail (Gillian Cattell) 6. Re: More Olympic glory for Yorkshire! (Davidandmaggie@aol.com) 7. Re: More Olympic glory for Yorkshire! (Pam) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 13:25:06 +0100 From: roy.stockdill@btinternet.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] More Olympic glory for Yorkshire! To: YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <50210922.18835.1C0E0E5@roy.stockdill.btinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII FLASH news - the brilliant Brownlee Brothers, Alastair and Jonny, have done it !!! Alastair wins the gold medal in the triathlon and Jonny gets the bronze (despite having to serve a 15-second penalty stop). One commentator said this morning that if Yorkshire was a county we'd be in 10th place overall in the medals table. Apologies to our non-UK listers for the none-genealogy news, who may not be quite so interested, but this is fantastic news for all of us here who have been loving Team GB's - and especially Yorkshire's - success. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE **************************************

Hi Roy, In your enthusiasm, I think you should have put country. Yorkshire is already a county. Regards.

See http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/olympics/comment/london-2012-yorkshire--the-county-thats-trouncing-australia-in-the-olympic-medal-table-8010174.html Susan..as long shot...do you have Burton Stanley Harrison b Ontario 1894 on your tree? May be not but worth checking Victor On 07/08/2012 1:54 PM, Susan Harrison wrote: > The Brownlees might have done so well because Simon Whitfield (Canada) had a crash on the bicycle part of the Triathalon !!! > > But perhaps I can take pride in the Yorkshire successes despite the fact my ancestor left North Yorkshire (Bolton upon Swale) in 1819 > > Susan Harrison > Ontario Canada > > > ________________________________ > From: "roy.stockdill@btinternet.com" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> > To: YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 8:25:06 AM > Subject: [YORKSGEN] More Olympic glory for Yorkshire! > > FLASH news - the brilliant Brownlee Brothers, Alastair and Jonny, have done it !!! > > Alastair wins the gold medal in the triathlon and Jonny gets the bronze (despite having to > serve a 15-second penalty stop). > > One commentator said this morning that if Yorkshire was a county we'd be in 10th place > overall in the medals table. > > Apologies to our non-UK listers for the none-genealogy news, who may not be quite so > interested, but this is fantastic news for all of us here who have been loving Team GB's - and > especially Yorkshire's - success. > > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well Roy, I believe you no longer live in Yorkshire but still celebrate the Yorkshire athletes achievements, and so do we who have been exiled to the colonies. Yorkshire blood runs in all "Yorksgen" veins, even though some is more diluted than others. Pam from Australia, which has many less medals than Yorkshire. ----- Original Message ----- From: <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: <YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 10:25 PM Subject: [YORKSGEN] More Olympic glory for Yorkshire! > FLASH news - the brilliant Brownlee Brothers, Alastair and Jonny, have > done it !!! > > Alastair wins the gold medal in the triathlon and Jonny gets the bronze > (despite having to > serve a 15-second penalty stop). > > One commentator said this morning that if Yorkshire was a county we'd be > in 10th place > overall in the medals table. > > Apologies to our non-UK listers for the none-genealogy news, who may not > be quite so > interested, but this is fantastic news for all of us here who have been > loving Team GB's - and > especially Yorkshire's - success. > > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Nobody need apologize for praising young athletes no matter where they are from. I am Canadian but I can still appreciate the USA girls gymnastics team as they were outstanding or praise the Chinese for their superb athletisism and of course Michael Phelps for his athletic drive and success. I feel joy for any young person achieving their dream of becoming an Olympian. Of course you say.........if they're from Yorkshire.....all the better. Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: <Davidandmaggie@aol.com> In a message dated 07/08/2012 13:27:39 GMT Daylight Time, roy.stockdill@btinternet.com writes: Apologies to our non-UK listers for the none-genealogy news, who may not be quite so interested, but this is fantastic news for all of us here who have been loving Team GB's - and especially Yorkshire's - success. But it IS genealogy !.......The talent has to be in the Yorkshire genes!

On the contrary, Roy - I was barracking for the Brownlees, and for the Poms in whatever events they have so brilliantly won. It is a lovely thing to see you all so proud, and the home ground advantage has surely lifted many of your athletes to that further dimension. Good on you all! Patsy Melbourne -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of roy.stockdill@btinternet.com Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2012 10:25 PM To: YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] More Olympic glory for Yorkshire! FLASH news - the brilliant Brownlee Brothers, Alastair and Jonny, have done it !!! Alastair wins the gold medal in the triathlon and Jonny gets the bronze (despite having to serve a 15-second penalty stop). One commentator said this morning that if Yorkshire was a county we'd be in 10th place overall in the medals table. Apologies to our non-UK listers for the none-genealogy news, who may not be quite so interested, but this is fantastic news for all of us here who have been loving Team GB's - and especially Yorkshire's - success. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

See below mail sent last week that some kind soul replied to. I have lost your mail so please re-send in grateful thanks Gillian Cattell Birmingham Mine is the opposite as my father was adamant his grandmother was not the daughter of a hawker from Selby. His sister however left a sheet of paper for my cousin with the names of her grandparents and where they had come from which disagreed with him. So this Yorksgen I pursued my Buxtons from Selby starting with visits to Pontefract & Harrogate registry offices where the certificates (£10 & £16 respectively) confirmed the relationship I had long suspected. Now I know why great grandma Annie changed her age (4years younger) her name (from Ann) & the occupation of her father James (she said labourer when he was a licenced hawker). They appear to have travelled around having children in various locations and without the census tracking them would have been impossible. I have one record (Borthwick BT's) of a baptism in Rawcliffe C.E. and then two non-conformist baptisms in Knottingley but the other seven children including my Annie were not to be found. They finally settled in Selby in around 1865 when my Annie would have been 10 living on East Common for many years allowing the younger children to go to school, (Selby Abbey school records from Borthwick). I have her uncles & aunts placed in the census variously "on the road", in fields, on the waterside so I am thinking all the siblings of James were travelling people all selling pots/ earthenware, though their parents were residents of Knottingley where he was a potter. Annies mother Eliza lived to the grand age of 87 years so must have been made of strong stuff and sounds to have been a fiery character having been had up at the Petty Sessions for using obscene language in the market place, (Selby library old newspapers). I look forward to tracking the rest of the Buxtons to see if any of the others escaped to a better life like my Annie. Thanks to Janice & Christine See you at Yorksgen 2013 Gillian Cattell

In a message dated 07/08/2012 13:27:39 GMT Daylight Time, roy.stockdill@btinternet.com writes: Apologies to our non-UK listers for the none-genealogy news, who may not be quite so interested, but this is fantastic news for all of us here who have been loving Team GB's - and especially Yorkshire's - success. But it IS genealogy !.......The talent has to be in the Yorkshire genes!

I was amused when I saw the news items about the number of winners from Yorkshire because a couple of days ago one of the Scottish papers was going on about how many winners were from Scotland with the implication that a Scottish team would do equally well but ignoring that many of them train in England with facilities that might not be available to them if they were independent. I don't think the Yorkshire press has gone that far (yet). Martin Briscoe Fort William martin@mbriscoe.me.uk -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of roy.stockdill@btinternet.com Sent: 07 August 2012 13:25 To: YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] More Olympic glory for Yorkshire! FLASH news - the brilliant Brownlee Brothers, Alastair and Jonny, have done it !!! Alastair wins the gold medal in the triathlon and Jonny gets the bronze (despite having to serve a 15-second penalty stop). One commentator said this morning that if Yorkshire was a county we'd be in 10th place overall in the medals table. Apologies to our non-UK listers for the none-genealogy news, who may not be quite so interested, but this is fantastic news for all of us here who have been loving Team GB's - and especially Yorkshire's - success. -- Roy Stockdill