I have an extract from a newspaper, The Hull Packet & East Riding Times, dated 9 Feb 1866 which gives me the following info: Hannah Mary SILVERWOOD, age abt 11, was brought up on remand charged with stealing sixpence, the property of her mother. She was to be sent to the Hull Industrial School until she attained the age of 15, & the mother to pay towards her maintenance. I seem to remember that this was one way of getting your child an education. Whether this was the case here I don't know. My problem is that apart from this article, and her birth in Hull in 1854, I know nothing about this child. I have been unable to find an 1871 or later census entry, a marriage or a death. She had two sisters and I have a birth certificate for one of the sisters Elizabeth, which gives her mother as Jane SILVERWOOD formerly NORMANDALE but again there is no marriage entry. The father on that birth certificate is Robert SILVERWOOD. In the 1861 census he was in gaol and in the 1871 census he is describing himself as single (he died a few months later) and I can find nothing about Jane and her three daughters although there is the possibility that Elizabeth died. Are there any records for the Industrial School. I have tried googling but they all seem to be for boys and/or much later. And if anyone can suggest anything I would be most grateful Regards Denise

Hi Steve The same thing happened to me using the Cornwall Library service to access the 19th Century Newspapers , like you all I got was Newsvault and the Times, whereas I usually have the 19th Century Papers as well Luckily as I use the 19th Century papers more than anything else I had bookmarked them and that still worked for me I emailed our library service who had already noticed and asked Cengage last week, they replied to say that Cengage say there is a fault and the correct link should be reinstated at some point Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 13/08/2012 19:24, steve whitwam wrote: > Can anyone advise me about the gale newspaper collection web site which I access using my kirklees library card. > > I've been using this for quite a while, but when I log into the site now I only get the "NewsVault" option and not the newspaper search where you can select a chosen paper. > > Is anyone else having problems with the site ? > > Regards > > Steve Whitwam > Golcar, Huddersfield

Roy and others Using your Lancashire library card access the newspaper database as you usually do. At the very top of the page there is a blue bar with "Preferences" "Change Databases" "Log Out" Click on " Change Databases". You will now see at the top Newsvault (with 17th and 18th century Burney Collection and The Time Digital Archive underneath). Click on Newsvault which brings up the new search platform which you can manipulate to your heart's content. For some strange reason inputting "Stockdill" only comes up with 3 hits. But if you do an Advanced Search putting Stockdill + Entire Document there are 85 hits. Lin PLEASE REMOVE NAMES & email ADDRESSES BEFORE FORWARDING. USE THE Bcc BOX FOR YOUR NAMES & ADDRESSES WHICH WILL HELP ELIMINATE UNWANTED EMAILS On 14/08/2012 09:59, roy.stockdill@btinternet.com wrote: > From: steve whitwam <STEVE@whitwam.freeserve.co.uk> > >> Can anyone advise me about the gale newspaper collection web site >> which I access using my kirklees library card. >> >> I've been using this for quite a while, but when I log into the site >> now I only get the "NewsVault" option and not the newspaper search >> where you can select a chosen paper. >> >> Is anyone else having problems with the site ? >> >> Regards >> >> Steve Whitwam >> Golcar, Huddersfield >> http://www.whitwam.co.uk> > Still seems to be working OK for me Steve. However, I am not getting, as far as I can see, > the "NewsVault" option that you and another poster seem to be getting! Where is that, > precisely? > > I just logged in a couple of minutes ago, entered "Stockdill" and got 34 hits, as I have done > on previous occasions. > > Maybe I shouldn't admit this (!) but I access the Gale site via Lancashire County Library > Services. Are they doing something differently to Kirklees? > > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

From: steve whitwam <STEVE@whitwam.freeserve.co.uk> > Can anyone advise me about the gale newspaper collection web site > which I access using my kirklees library card. > > I've been using this for quite a while, but when I log into the site > now I only get the "NewsVault" option and not the newspaper search > where you can select a chosen paper. > > Is anyone else having problems with the site ? > > Regards > > Steve Whitwam > Golcar, Huddersfield > http://www.whitwam.co.uk> Still seems to be working OK for me Steve. However, I am not getting, as far as I can see, the "NewsVault" option that you and another poster seem to be getting! Where is that, precisely? I just logged in a couple of minutes ago, entered "Stockdill" and got 34 hits, as I have done on previous occasions. Maybe I shouldn't admit this (!) but I access the Gale site via Lancashire County Library Services. Are they doing something differently to Kirklees? -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Can anyone advise me about the gale newspaper collection web site which I access using my kirklees library card. I've been using this for quite a while, but when I log into the site now I only get the "NewsVault" option and not the newspaper search where you can select a chosen paper. Is anyone else having problems with the site ? Regards Steve Whitwam Golcar, Huddersfield http://www.whitwam.co.uk The web site for those tracing their ancestors from the Colne Valley, Huddersfield

Hi Steve I used the Kirklees facility this weekend and noticed the search was different but I found it a little easier to use. A successful result quickly came up - it was the Huddersfield Chronicle in 1852 - which I thought OK. My concern has been that the Huddersfield Examiner does not seem to be included - back to twiddling films in the library for that.   Regards Roger Family History Research: GILL, BERRY, CHARLESWORTH, ROBINSON and many others in the Holme Valley, south of Huddersfield. http://rogergill.me.uk > > Can anyone advise me about the gale newspaper collection web site which I access > using my kirklees library card. > > I've been using this for quite a while, but when I log into the site now I > only get the "NewsVault" option and not the newspaper search where you > can select a chosen paper. > > Is anyone else having problems with the site ? > > Regards > > Steve Whitwam > Golcar, Huddersfield > http://www.whitwam.co.uk > > The web site for those tracing their ancestors from the Colne Valley, > Huddersfield >

Not sure if this will help, but I have just accessed the Gale collection through Lancashire Libraries online. There were originally two options - the Burney Collection and Times Digital Archive. There is now a third - Newsvault - a new search platform. You can select by collection or by chosen paper using the Advanced Search option. Lin PLEASE REMOVE NAMES & email ADDRESSES BEFORE FORWARDING. USE THE Bcc BOX FOR YOUR NAMES & ADDRESSES WHICH WILL HELP ELIMINATE UNWANTED EMAILS On 13/08/2012 19:24, steve whitwam wrote: > Can anyone advise me about the gale newspaper collection web site which I access using my kirklees library card. > > I've been using this for quite a while, but when I log into the site now I only get the "NewsVault" option and not the newspaper search where you can select a chosen paper. > > Is anyone else having problems with the site ? > > Regards > > Steve Whitwam > Golcar, Huddersfield > http://www.whitwam.co.uk > > The web site for those tracing their ancestors from the Colne Valley, Huddersfield > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

The boxer from Hull is Luke CAMPBELL (not Chapman). And may I say well done to ALL the athletes who took part, whether they are Yorkshire born or not. The will indeed Inspire a Generation. Lin PLEASE REMOVE NAMES & email ADDRESSES BEFORE FORWARDING. USE THE Bcc BOX FOR YOUR NAMES & ADDRESSES WHICH WILL HELP ELIMINATE UNWANTED EMAILS On 12/08/2012 13:03, roy.stockdill@btinternet.com wrote: > With only a few events left, today's Mail on Sunday has published on the centre pages of its > Olympics special pull-out supplement a definitive league table with the following headline: "So > Yorkshire really is the county of champions: If it was a country it would have beaten the likes > of Spain, South Africa and Brazil...and that's without all the medallists they tried to poach > from other counties". > > While pointing out that Yorkshire has attempted to claim athletes who were born elsewhere > but brought up or live in Yorkshire, the paper has Yorkshire right at the top of a county table > showing where all Team GB's medallists come from in birth terms. > > Yorkshire has five gold medals, 1 silver and 2 bronzes, followed by London (NOT actually a > county) with 4 golds, 6 silver and 6 bronzes, with Lancashire third with 3 golds no silver and 1 > bronze. The Mail writer, one Nick Harris, however, has the gall to say "OK London is not a > county but then neither is Yorkshire any more". I look forward to him receiving a flurry of > e-mails from all three shires pointing out that, whatever the clowns in Whitehall may have > decided in 1974, the traditional, historic county of Yorkshire still is most definitely a county, > whereas London was always traditionally divided between Middlesex, Surrey, Kent and > Essex! > > The Mail table shows that if Yorkshire had competed as a separate country we would be 15th > overall, just behind New Zealand but ahead of sporting giants Spain, South Africa and Brazil. > > Here are the gold medals won by Yorkshire-born Olympians..... > > JESSICA ENNIS, heptathlon, born in Sheffield > ALISTAIR BROWNLEE, triathlon, born in Dewsbury, brought up in Horsforth > ED CLANCY, men's cycling team pursuit, born in Barnsley > NICOLA ADAMS, a history maker as the first woman to win a boxing medal, born in Leeds > LUKE CHAPMAN, boxing bantamweight, born in Hull > > Perhaps in Rio in 2016 we will see Team Yorkshire, if we've got independence by then! > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I swear she is writing about me!!!! Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret O'Shea" <m.oshea1@ntlworld.com> To: <YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:47 AM Subject: [YORKSGEN] A Geneaholic's Story At Yorksgen I mentioned the Geneaholic’s Story and found that some people didn’t seem to have come across it. The link is below – and having reread it I realise that I am beyond hope☺ http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/t/a/u/Donna-Tauber-IN/FILE/0028page.html Margaret O’Shea Oxford

From: "Janice Wood" <janwood50@btinternet.com> > Hello all, > > The British Newspaper Archive is constantly updating with more and > more historic newspapers becoming available online. Visit the site > at: http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ If you read the Blog > page, you can read about an amazing discovery made by yours truly, > thanks to the BNA. > > Regards < Congratulations, Janice! Perhaps I will send them one or two of my own. However, I feel I ought to point out that the site is a subscription one and that some of the OCR-ing in the summaries is quite appalling - laughable, in fact! Also, I have found that there is much duplication with the earlier Gale Cengage site which, as far as I'm aware, can still be accessed free through some county library services. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hello Jane, The scanning itself is reasonably good, but the OCR (optical character recognition) leaves quite a lot to be desired.  The good thing about this site is that you can edit it yourself, so you can go back and alter that word to Ship - shame to spoil the giggle for others though! :-) Regards, Janice ________________________________ From: Jane Woodall <jane.woodall@virgin.net> To: Janice Wood <janwood50@btinternet.com>; YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 13 August 2012, 9:11 Subject: Re: [YORKSGEN] Discoveries in Newspapers Brilliant - but the scanning is appalling! Just chuckling over the Lynn Shit News... I think they mean ship! Jane Chasing W(h)eldrake/drick - any variation, anywhere, any time -----Original Message----- From: Janice Wood Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 3:51 PM To: YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] Discoveries in Newspapers Hello all, The British Newspaper Archive is constantly updating with more and more historic newspapers becoming available online. Visit the site at: http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ If you read the Blog page, you can read about an amazing discovery made by yours truly, thanks to the BNA. Regards, Janice Wood ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have Googled for Plough Day and the day seems to have varied slightly, but "the Monday after Twelfth Day" seems to feature mostly. The fields around here seem to get ploughed in the middle of winter too. See the following: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plough_Monday http://www.folk-now.co.uk/info/traditions/plough_stotts.html Margaret -----Original Message----- From: yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:yorksgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of yorksgen-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 11 August 2012 08:01 To: yorksgen@rootsweb.com Subject: YORKSGEN Digest, Vol 7, Issue 368 Today's Topics: 1. Some queries on Lease Registers (Colin B. Withers) 2. Some queries on Lease Registers (Colin B. Withers) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 12:08:10 +0200 From: "Colin B. Withers" <Colin.Withers@eumetsat.int> Subject: [YORKSGEN] Some queries on Lease Registers To: "yorksgen@rootsweb.com" <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <B293F9025AB9DF4BBD3BC3403F25DA450165507DAA38@EXW10.eum.root.eumetsat.int> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi, I am currently transcribing my way through the Lease Registers of the Archbishops of York and I have a few queries which the list might be able to throw some light on. 1. In the list of leases for a particular property the lease states 'for 11 years' but almost all the renewals (over a two hundred year period) are dated 5 years later, rather than 11 years later. Why is this? 2. Some of the properties that the Archbishop acquired from other parties (the Crown for example) were already encumbered with leases for a term of years, so the marginal note says that the only income the AB can expect from these properties until the lease expires is the 'Reserved Rent'. What is the definition here of 'Reserved Rent'? 3. Some rents were payable on the usual Lady Day and/or Michaelmas, but others were payable on Plow-day. Anyone know when 'Plow-day' was? Thanks Colin ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 12:09:41 +0200 From: "Colin B. Withers" <Colin.Withers@eumetsat.int> Subject: [YORKSGEN] Some queries on Lease Registers To: "YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com" <YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <B293F9025AB9DF4BBD3BC3403F25DA450165507DAA39@EXW10.eum.root.eumetsat.int> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi, I am currently transcribing my way through the Lease Registers of the Archbishops of York and I have a few queries which the list might be able to throw some light on. 1. In the list of leases for a particular property the lease states 'for 11 years' but almost all the renewals (over a two hundred year period) are dated 5 years later, rather than 11 years later. Why is this? 2. Some of the properties that the Archbishop acquired from other parties (the Crown for example) were already encumbered with leases for a term of years, so the marginal note says that the only income the AB can expect from these properties until the lease expires is the 'Reserved Rent'. What is the definition here of 'Reserved Rent'? 3. Some rents were payable on the usual Lady Day and/or Michaelmas, but others were payable on Plow-day. Anyone know when 'Plow-day' was? Thanks Colin ------------------------------ To contact the YORKSGEN list administrator, send an email to YORKSGEN-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the YORKSGEN mailing list, send an email to YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of YORKSGEN Digest, Vol 7, Issue 368 ****************************************

Many thanks for the responses. The Greater Oxford dictionary confirmed, as many listers suggested, that Plow-Day = Plough-Monday, = the first Monday after Epiphany (the 6th Jan), and was the day on which the new Agricultural Year started after the holidays. I have since discovered that the practice of the ecclesiastics in York was to charge low rents but high entry fees (fines), which boosted their income if a tenancy was cut short by death or any other reason. Still haven't found why 11-year leases were routinely renewed after 5 years though. Colin

  Hi Colin   As to your query 3 -   Short answer is I dont positively know -   BUT as a pointer (- unless you have already checked and discounted this) - I would suggest the wikipedia entry for "Ploiugh Monday" - apparently the restart of the agricultural year after the Christmas season, particularly in Northern England..?? - the Monday after Epiphany in January     Regards Stephen NZ   //// --- On Fri, 10/8/12, Colin B. Withers <Colin.Withers@eumetsat.int> wrote: From: Colin B. Withers <Colin.Withers@eumetsat.int> Subject: [YORKSGEN] Some queries on Lease Registers To: "YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com" <YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, 10, August, 2012, 10:09 PM Hi, I am currently transcribing my way through the Lease Registers of the Archbishops of York and I have a few queries which the list might be able to throw some light on. 1. In the list of leases for a particular property the lease states 'for 11 years' but almost all the renewals (over a two hundred year period) are dated 5 years later, rather than 11 years later. Why is this? 2. Some of the properties that the Archbishop acquired from other parties (the Crown for example) were already encumbered with leases for a term of years, so the marginal note says that the only income the AB can expect from these properties until the lease expires is the 'Reserved Rent'. What is the definition here of 'Reserved Rent'? 3. Some rents were payable on the usual Lady Day and/or Michaelmas, but others were payable on Plow-day. Anyone know when 'Plow-day' was? Thanks Colin

Brilliant - but the scanning is appalling! Just chuckling over the Lynn Shit News... I think they mean ship! Jane Chasing W(h)eldrake/drick - any variation, anywhere, any time -----Original Message----- From: Janice Wood Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 3:51 PM To: YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] Discoveries in Newspapers Hello all, The British Newspaper Archive is constantly updating with more and more historic newspapers becoming available online. Visit the site at: http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ If you read the Blog page, you can read about an amazing discovery made by yours truly, thanks to the BNA. Regards, Janice Wood ..... Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can only help with 'Plow-day' now more commonly spelt Plough Day 6th January. The day the fields were blessed to bring a plentiful harvest and the start of the agricultural year. Traditionally the 6th Jan is also the day we take our Christmas Decorations down. See Wiki for more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plough_Monday Sue On 10/08/2012 11:09, Colin B. Withers wrote: > Hi, > > I am currently transcribing my way through the Lease Registers of the Archbishops of York and I have a few queries which the list might be able to throw some light on. > > 1. In the list of leases for a particular property the lease states 'for 11 years' but almost all the renewals (over a two hundred year period) are dated 5 years later, rather than 11 years later. Why is this? > > 2. Some of the properties that the Archbishop acquired from other parties (the Crown for example) were already encumbered with leases for a term of years, so the marginal note says that the only income the AB can expect from these properties until the lease expires is the 'Reserved Rent'. What is the definition here of 'Reserved Rent'? > > 3. Some rents were payable on the usual Lady Day and/or Michaelmas, but others were payable on Plow-day. Anyone know when 'Plow-day' was? > > Thanks > > Colin > > ..... > Ancestors in Yorkshire? http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; > www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; > www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to YORKSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Colin B. Withers wrote: - Sent: 10 August 2012 11:10 To: YORKSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSGEN] Some queries on Lease Registers 3. Some rents were payable on the usual Lady Day and/or Michaelmas, but others were payable on Plow-day. Anyone know when 'Plow-day' was? ======= Probably Plough Monday; the first Monday after twelfth night and the effective start of a new agricultural year. ... Kushti bok, Chris Westmoreland

Hi List My last request was sadly lacking in detail so here's what I should have written. Does anyone out there have a John Fisher and Elizabeth Steel in their Family Tree? They were married in Rotherham on Sunday 18 March 1849. He was a Saw Maker. Cheers, Marcelle Western Australia

Hello all, The British Newspaper Archive is constantly updating with more and more historic newspapers becoming available online. Visit the site at: http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ If you read the Blog page, you can read about an amazing discovery made by yours truly, thanks to the BNA. Regards, Janice Wood

With only a few events left, today's Mail on Sunday has published on the centre pages of its Olympics special pull-out supplement a definitive league table with the following headline: "So Yorkshire really is the county of champions: If it was a country it would have beaten the likes of Spain, South Africa and Brazil...and that's without all the medallists they tried to poach from other counties". While pointing out that Yorkshire has attempted to claim athletes who were born elsewhere but brought up or live in Yorkshire, the paper has Yorkshire right at the top of a county table showing where all Team GB's medallists come from in birth terms. Yorkshire has five gold medals, 1 silver and 2 bronzes, followed by London (NOT actually a county) with 4 golds, 6 silver and 6 bronzes, with Lancashire third with 3 golds no silver and 1 bronze. The Mail writer, one Nick Harris, however, has the gall to say "OK London is not a county but then neither is Yorkshire any more". I look forward to him receiving a flurry of e-mails from all three shires pointing out that, whatever the clowns in Whitehall may have decided in 1974, the traditional, historic county of Yorkshire still is most definitely a county, whereas London was always traditionally divided between Middlesex, Surrey, Kent and Essex! The Mail table shows that if Yorkshire had competed as a separate country we would be 15th overall, just behind New Zealand but ahead of sporting giants Spain, South Africa and Brazil. Here are the gold medals won by Yorkshire-born Olympians..... JESSICA ENNIS, heptathlon, born in Sheffield ALISTAIR BROWNLEE, triathlon, born in Dewsbury, brought up in Horsforth ED CLANCY, men's cycling team pursuit, born in Barnsley NICOLA ADAMS, a history maker as the first woman to win a boxing medal, born in Leeds LUKE CHAPMAN, boxing bantamweight, born in Hull Perhaps in Rio in 2016 we will see Team Yorkshire, if we've got independence by then! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE